Scam Alert - Beware of Sriram Gopalan

[Verysassyc]

Hello!!!

I've had a frustrating week...

Last week I sold my domain name on Sedo insurance.casino for $$$$ to Sriram Gopalan. He immediately wanted a receipt with my signature. (Red flags are going up.) I waited and waited and no payment...then I decided to do a name look up and I found my domain for sale on Dan.com with Sriram Gopalan listed as the owner.
I contacted Sedo and they said that his cc was rejected due to security reasons. They would try a wire transfer and then cancel the escrow.

I CONTACTED DAN.COM (See below)
Sriram Gopalan is selling insurance.casino on your site.

He bought the domain from me on Sedo over a week ago... but has yet to pay for it...so he should not be selling a domain name he does not own.
Their reply:

Thank you for notifying us.

Please grant a print screen of the domain residing in your registrars account and I will make sure to remove the domain for you.


What kind of security does DAN.COM use??? I guess anyone can sell a domain without verification??? Why am I on the hook to provide them with proof of ownership??? HEY DAN.COM - SHOULDN'T SRIRAM GOPALAM BE PROVING HIS OWNERSHIP OF THE DOMAIN???

PS Everyone...it is STILL UP FOR SALE!!!!

 

[Verysassyc]

No that's standard of any marketplace. Afternic, Uniregistry, even Sedo. If I emailed sedo and said I was the real owner of one of your domains and wanted it removed they would require me to verify ownership not you.

That's fine...but I don't have to agree with their policy. I did give Dan.com evidence yesterday...and the domain is still up for sale. They told me it wasn't enough evidence. I gave them my Sedo transaction which shows everything. So despite this...they let him keep the domain up for sale...and told me to give them more evidence...which I have done so tonight.

 

[Mary Muse]

Unless there is an express agreement to broker a domain for someone via written contract it is wrong to list a domain for sale you don't own.

Duh.

 

[Verysassyc]

This is what I sent Dan.com yesterday...
I copied and pasted from Sedo:
Thu 2020-01-23 7:18 AM

• [email protected]

Sriram Gopalan is selling insurance.casino on your site.
He bought the domain from me on Sedo over a week ago... but has yet to pay for it...so he should not be selling a domain name he does not own.
******************************************************************************************************************************************
Jan/23/20Payment status
Please be informed that we have contacted the buyer in regards to the outstanding payment that is needed in order to proceed with the transfer. You will be contacted immediately upon receipt of more information.


receipt for this domain sale
The buyer has submitted payment to our account and has requested an invoice or receipt.
Please create an invoice or receipt with the full amount 4400 USD and upload it in the "Transfer Documents" section or send it by fax to 617-499-7219.

Kindly note that all sales prices negotiated through the Sedo marketplace are considered to be end prices for the buyer including the VAT valid for the Seller.

Please issue an invoice/receipt with the following details.


Sriram Gopalan
16/1 MTH Road, Villivakkam
600049 Chennai
India

 

[Daniel Owens]

Duh.

Glad you agree. Basically, they should have paid for domain then listed it for sale. Sounds like she did not give the goahead to let someone broker domain. I assume if it doesn't sell she will never get paid. Domaining usually requires small risk of buying a domain then hold then flipping for profit.

 

[Verysassyc]

Photo removed

 

[7363824]

Sadly it is not uncommon for people to do this. Find a buyer for a domain they do not own then if they find a buyer they will try to buy it from the current owner for less than they sold it for and pocket the difference.

It's basically like they are acting like a broker but without the owners permission. YESSSS
omg...thank you!!!

You have to decide what works for you. For me I dont worry about this. I set a BIN price based on what I want to make. Info someone can find someone to pay more than my BIN and wants to pocket the difference I dont care because I still make a sale and get my BIN minus commission for the marketplace.

If someone want to go farther and use a stolen cc to pay the real owner that's unfortunate but that's why I always go though Escrow.com or a trusted marketplace like Afternic because they guarantee payment to me. They do their own fraud checks and they will ear the loss (or probably they have insurance that takes the loss) in that case.

 

[Verysassyc]

Then I sent them this:
Mr. Gopalan sent me an offer on Sedo last week which I accepted. Mr. Gopalan did not pay for the domain name and Sedo has since flagged his credit card number. (See attached files.) Mr. Gopalan continues to sell my domain on your website. I am wondering why Mr. Gopalan has been able to list my domain on your site when he is not the owner? I am also wondering why when I contacted your team I was told to provide evidence that I am the owner? Should it not be Dan.com investigating whether or not Mr. Gopalan is the owner of the domain? I am looking forward to your response.
Thank you,
Christine
Please see my last correspondence with your team:

 

[SirDrago]

That's fine...but I don't have to agree with their policy. I did give Dan.com evidence yesterday...and the domain is still up for sale. They told me it wasn't enough evidence. I gave them my Sedo transaction which shows everything. So despite this...they let him keep the domain up for sale...and told me to give them more evidence...which I have done so tonight.

You don't need to provide Dan with ANYTHING.
If the above domain name is sitting nice and cozy in your account you can tell Dan to go F themselves.
You have it listed at sedo which requires owners verification. Since no money was deposited in your bank the domain remains in your account.
So Dan and the fake owner can go fly a kite.
You are NOT responsible for providing proof of ownership to a venue you had/ have no association with.

 

[Verysassyc]

Your Comment
I am not happy that Mr. Gopalan is posing as the seller of my domain
Please see the listing link:
https://dan.com/buy-domain/insurance.casino


Jan/23/20Payment status
Please be informed that we have contacted the buyer in regards to the outstanding payment that is needed in order to proceed with the transfer. You will be contacted immediately upon receipt of more information.

Thank you for your continued patience.


Jan/23/20Sedo Transfer Agent
Dear

Our system recently flagged the payment due to security reasons. Unfortunately we had to refund the buyer´s credit card payment because the buyer has not sent us the verification documents that our credit card institute has requested.

We have created a new only wire payment request and asked the buyer to resend the payment as soon possible otherwise we have to cancel this transaction.

We will inform you as soon as we can proceed with the technical transfer of the domain.

Thank you in advance for your patience during this process.

Best regards,

Your Sedo Team
--
Security & Compliance

 

[Verysassyc]

You don't need to provide Dan with ANYTHING.
If the above domain name is sitting nice and cozy in your account you can tell Dan to go F themselves.
You have it listed at sedo which requires owners verification. Since no money was deposited in your bank the domain remains in your account.
So Dan and the fake owner can go fly a kite.
You are NOT responsible for providing proof of ownership to a venue you had/ have no association with.

Maybe I will make a big bid on my domain name???

 

[Verysassyc]

GOOD NITE GENTLEMEN!!!

 

[7363824]

You don't need to provide Dan with ANYTHING.
If the above domain name is sitting nice and cozy in your account you can tell Dan to go F themselves.
You have it listed at sedo which requires owners verification. Since no money was deposited in your bank the domain remains in your account.
So Dan and the fake owner can go fly a kite.
You are NOT responsible for providing proof of ownership to a venue you had/ have no association with.

Precisely. You dont have to provide anything unless you want them to remove it. You can choose to leave it be if someone tries to buy it on dan.com and this guy cant deliver the domain because he dosent own it that could cause dan to suspend his account with them, but that's between dan and him so you needn't worry.

 

[Lox]

@Verysassyc Good Night!

 

[Chacha Wixard]

May be you can try to contact Sriram Gopalan using DAN offer

https://dan.com/buy-domain/insurance.casino

I won't be surprised if he/she try to sell less what he "bought" (trying to buy) from SEDO.

 

[Shamiul]

We can feel you. But I think you should at least remove the Dan Staff's photo. If you don't, that innocent guy will soon be indexed on Google with these tags, which isn't good for him.

 

[PriyankaS]

Just for fun...I looked up some more of Sriram Gopalan's domains on Dan.com
and guess what??? They are not owned by him! Check it out!
(I just sent the info with photos to Dan.com) Hopefully they will pull this scammers domains off of their site!

Why are these domains for sale on your site???
These are all for sale on godaddy...Sriram Gopalan does not own them!!! Yet he claims he does?
This guy is a total scammer
See attached photos and please look these and more up on Godaddy...
gig.company
gig.computer
gig.limited
live.construction
gadget.supplies
travel.democrat
weather.limited
weather.direct

Domains like gadget.supplies available to handregister so This could also be because Sriram may have owned and listed these names years before and he just didn't removed his names from dan which happens and can happen with lot of us.

 

[Daniel Owens]

I'm pretty sure it's a felony to list a domain you don't own without prior permission from the owner. That guy should be in jail!

 

[7363824]

I'm pretty sure it's a felony to list a domain you don't own without prior permission from the owner. That guy should be in jail!

I dont know about that. In the US at least I think Congress is just learning what a computer is, the laws here are so far behind technology.

 

[PriyankaS]

Btw is it me only? Who likes dan way of hassle free listing. Compare to sedo and afternic's lethargic system of confirmation which can be really tiring.

 

[Daniel Owens]

Btw is it me only? Who likes dan way of hassle free listing. Compare to sedo and afternic's lethargic system of confirmation which can be really tiring.

I love the name Dan it sounds so familiar to me and is very catchy. I hope this person takes responsibility and remove the domain from being for sale on their own.

 

[Mary Muse]

We can feel you. But I think you should at least remove the Dan Staff's photo. If you don't, that innocent guy will soon be indexed on Google with these tags, which isn't good for him.

Agreed. So many assumptions and too much misinformation.

This thread is toxic.

 

[SirDrago]

Domains like gadget.supplies available to handregister so This could also be because Sriram may have owned and listed these names years before and he just didn't removed his names from dan which happens and can happen with lot of us.

The person who listed the domain name is still responsible for fees if that domain sells on that platform. Read the TOS.

Btw is it me only? Who likes dan way of hassle free listing. Compare to sedo and afternic's lethargic system of confirmation which can be really tiring.

Hassle "Free" is not always a good thing.
Here's a little secret but don't tell anyone...
You can go to these "Brandable" market platforms and search for the most expensive domains listed and two minutes later hand reg them for $6 because their listed by fake owners.
Shhhhh that's our secret.

 

[Daniel Owens]

The person who listed the domain name is still responsible for fees if that domain sells on that platform. Read the TOS.



Hassle "Free" is not always a good thing.
Here's a little secret but don't tell anyone...
You can go to these "Brandable" market platforms and search for the most expensive domains listed and two minutes later hand reg them for $6 because their listed by fake owners.
Shhhhh that's our secret.

Hassle free is never a good thing. All things in life are a hassle, all good things come to those who wait.

 

[LaszloSchenk]

Exactly thank you!!! Because they are lazy asses at Dan.com

Verysassyc,

To my surprise, I found a 4-page long thread on Namepros regarding a statement you have made which could have been solved within a matter of minutes.

It is easy to ramp on about this topic without providing a clear and factual picture. Please consider:
- we have our own verification methods at the moment of subscribing a domain
- the domain you are referring to was listed for sale by this particular seller in 2016
- we do not perform a continuous check of live ownership. If a domain expires the seller is responsible for removing the domain(s). Regardless, we are developing a live ownership verification ensuring this situation will not happen again
- the entire portfolio of this seller was listed in 2016 meaning it is likely part of the portfolio expired over time

Please bear in mind that we receive hundreds of inquiries on a daily basis. Amongst those inquiries we receive dozens of remarks stating a domain was stolen, illegally listed or not allowed to be listed for sale. In 90% of these cases, it involves a former owner who neglected to renew the domain and lost it through auction. You might understand that we cannot contact our sellers multiple times on a daily basis to verify these claims. If I was a seller on any platform I would not desire to be contacted regarding this frequently. However, we do not want to disregard your statement and ask you to send this print screen in order to get this resolved straight away.

It is unfortunate to see that something this simply resolves in such a large post with several unprofessional remarks. Regardless, our support will tend to your ticket this morning and make sure the domain gets removed as well as any other outdated listing of the seller.

Have a great weekend still,

 

[karmaco]

You don't need to provide Dan with ANYTHING.
If the above domain name is sitting nice and cozy in your account you can tell Dan to go F themselves.
You have it listed at sedo which requires owners verification. Since no money was deposited in your bank the domain remains in your account.
So Dan and the fake owner can go fly a kite.
You are NOT responsible for providing proof of ownership to a venue you had/ have no association with.

You most certainly are required to show proof if you expect them to pry a name from someone else’s DAN account. Anybody can claim a domain is now theirs. Apparently it did belong to this guy 4 years ago. So yes current proof of ownership is required. If anybody can have any domain removed from DAN just by huffing and puffing that would be a real issue. People could get other people’s names removed out of spite.