SATI.COM last sold for $100,000 on 2017-03-29 and now $x,xxx in auction

Discussion in 'Domain Name Sales' started by Bleto123, Nov 13, 2017 at 9:59 AM.

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  1. Axel Inverted

    Axel Inverted New Member

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    The site looks like a placeholder and I can't find anything convincing enough that Sati is an actual drink product.
     
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  2. Makis.TV

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  3. jamaltq

    jamaltq sedg.com VIP

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    Lianne van Hoorn is a regional manager / broker at Sedo in Germany.
     
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  5. forge

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    Off topic a bit, but is this a joke?
     
  6. xynames

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    It’s happening look at namebio over past week. I’m getting offers on my better four letters all week too but I’m not selling so cheap.
     
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    Must be cuz they ain't selling for that around here :ROFL:
     
  8. Shea

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    that's easy.... too easy.. Assuming it did actually sell at 100k then was resold at much less. 100k end user rate. 4-10k investor rate. Perhaps an end user purchased and then decided the name was no longer needed. Sold back and got an investor rate.
     
  9. Grilled

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    WHOIS shows the domain was owned by John Fanning of DotCom Capital LLC using a @netcapital.com email address on March 7th, 2017 (eNom). The earliest WHOIS I have for Sati.com is from November 2nd, 2015, and Mr. Fanning is the registrant.

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    NameBio.com reported the $100,000 sedo sale on March 29th, 2017.

    It looks like there was a WHOIS update on April 18th, 2017. (I'm not sure if this was the earliest WHOIS change, or if there was one in between March 7th, 2017 and April 18th, 2017). WHOIS is private. (Paragon Internet Group)
    Sati.com was mentioned on DSAD.com in the November 8th auction recap. HERE (that might explain why google indexed the sub=domainshaneoffer link.

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    Sati.com is also currently the "Domain of the Day" on DSAD.com. I don't read this blog very often, so I'm not familiar with the domain of the day process, or how they are selected. tagging @Domain Shane

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  10. jamaltq

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    LOLA.com also sold for $550,000 before 7 months.
     
  11. Grilled

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    Is the for sale now?
     
  12. jamaltq

    jamaltq sedg.com VIP

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    No
     
  13. BaileyUK

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    I'll let you regular namepros guys do all the investigating but sati as a workable (I accept 'Class' specific trademarked) dot com sounds a decent purchase at $10k - Let me know what I missed for a new (unrelated) user/business to be able to work with it as a non-infringing entity
     
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  14. Domain Shane

    Domain Shane Active Member DSAD.com Staff PRO ICA Member VIP

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    Sorry, nothing to report here. We are paid by Sedo to showcase names that they have for auction. Sati.com was one of them.
    Grilled, you should spend 3 minutes reading the list. You never know, there might be something on there you didn't see on a scan. We also post the results of the names we listed the next day so you can see exactly what they sold for. Like me or not it does give you a good idea of what is selling at auction and for how much
     
  15. xynames

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    Just some examples from past few days at namebio:

    zxdj.com

    $1,090

    NameJet

    fksg.com

    $945

    NameJet

    jgrt.com

    $933

    NameJet

    kxmr.com

    $936

    NameJet

    rpmr.com

    $935

    NameJet

    mzch.com

    $946

    NameJet

    dbzt.com

    $944

    NameJet

    tqfs.com

    $932

    NameJet
     
  16. atinc

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    Someone needs to make an explanation!

    this is sick and I am not convinced about the previous sales report of 100K!

    Seriously who does that?
     
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  17. promo

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    Uhm you do know all of your examples are CHIPs that have a floor 5x of non chip 4l.COMS?
     
  18. xynames

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  19. promo

    promo Domain investor and broker VIP ★★★★★★★★★★

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    I have no idea what you are saying. But CHIP domains have sold for 5x bottom 4l.COMS for 2 years now. Nothing to do with Namepros.

    So the examples you posted are in line with prices from last 12 months. 24 months ago they would all have sold around 2500 per..
     
  20. xynames

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    It's okay, no one gets anywhere discussing anything with you, as you already have the answers.
     
  21. promo

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    So tell me; do you understand why your examples are not indicative of a rise in prices or you missed the CHIP phenomenon?
     
  22. xynames

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    As we discussed privately, and I may be mistaken, I thought some of those letters weren’t premium. Like r p f ? Thanks.
     
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  24. tonecas

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    on 2017-03-27:


    Domain Name: SATI.COM
    Registry Domain ID: 95625205_DOMAIN_COM-VRSN
    Registrar WHOIS Server: whois.enom.com
    Registrar URL: www.enom.com
    Updated Date: 2017-03-22T16:09:29.00Z
    Creation Date: 2003-03-09T19:17:00.00Z
    Registrar Registration Expiration Date: 2018-03-09T18:17:00.00Z
    Registrar: ENOM, INC.
    Registrar IANA ID: 48
    Domain Status: ok https://www.icann.org/epp#ok
    Registry Registrant ID:
    Registrant Name: TRANSFER SERVICE
    Registrant Organization: SEDO
    Registrant Street: 161 FIRST ST 4 FLOOR
    Registrant City: CAMBRIDGE
    Registrant State/Province: MA
    Registrant Postal Code: 02142
    Registrant Country: US
    Registrant Phone: +1.6174997200
    Registrant Phone Ext:
    Registrant Fax: +1.6174997200
    Registrant Fax Ext:
    Registrant Email: [email protected]
    Registry Admin ID:
    Admin Name: TRANSFER SERVICE
    Admin Organization: SEDO
    Admin Street: 161 FIRST ST 4 FLOOR
    Admin City: CAMBRIDGE
    Admin State/Province: MA
    Admin Postal Code: 02142
    Admin Country: US
    Admin Phone: +1.6174997200
    Admin Phone Ext:
    Admin Fax: +1.6174997200
    Admin Fax Ext:
    Admin Email: [email protected]
    Registry Tech ID:
    Tech Name: TRANSFER SERVICE
    Tech Organization: SEDO
    Tech Street: 161 FIRST ST 4 FLOOR
    Tech City: CAMBRIDGE
    Tech State/Province: MA
    Tech Postal Code: 02142
    Tech Country: US
    Tech Phone: +1.6174997200
    Tech Phone Ext:
    Tech Fax: +1.6174997200
    Tech Fax Ext:
    Tech Email: [email protected]
    Name Server: DNS1.NAME-SERVICES.COM
    Name Server: DNS2.NAME-SERVICES.COM
    Name Server: DNS3.NAME-SERVICES.COM
    Name Server: DNS4.NAME-SERVICES.COM
    Name Server: DNS5.NAME-SERVICES.COM
    DNSSEC: unSigned
    Registrar Abuse Contact Email: [email protected]
    Registrar Abuse Contact Phone: +1.4252982646
    URL of the ICANN WHOIS Data Problem Reporting System: http://wdprs.internic.net/
    >>> Last update of WHOIS database: 2017-03-22T16:09:29.00Z <<<
     
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  25. tonecas

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    quick recap of the last 15 years or so:

    1) the short domain sector, like all human endeavors, is prone to segmentation and rationalization. some arguments are true but others are just people trying to get sense out of things and then an idea gets mainstream and becomes a fact.

    2) there is actually a pattern of good and bad letters, and even for their position on a short domain name, confirmed thru analyses of what domains sold and/or got developed by end-users. this analyses shows that a subset of the 25 Latin letters is more prone to be used by an end-user simply because most businesses target the English language and more businesses belong to highly developed nations with strong purchasing power like USA, UK, Germany, France, etc, and so there are letters that start more common words in this(ese) language(s). this subset was named "premium (western) letters" and consists of letters abcdefgilmnoprst, where letters jku and maybe vw are usually considered semi-premium and qxyz are consider bad letters (because not many businesses have names started with these letters or usually the ones that pay more use names with premium letters)

    3) fast forward to end of 2013 and then a pattern started to arise where what used to be called bad letters started to got picked by Chinese. the rationale behind this is, contrary in some way to what is the pattern in the "western" world and languages, with Chinese/Mandarin there are lots of words that start with the bad letters qxyz. given that China has a lot of people and growing purchase power and that many chinese domainers entered the market at this time, this idea got pervasive until it reached a mania status in 2015 where the letters bcdfghjklmnpqrstxyz were considered premium to Chinese and coined by one namepros member as CHIPS (chinese premiums). this turned the market upside down and what was until then considered inferior quality letters and domains started to attract more money than the proven track record of the western premium letters. this even spread to numeric domains.

    4) after the peak in Nov/Dec 2015 the all short domain segment got crushed in the following 2 years, and has actually hit new lows in the last month.

    so when you see domains being sold for $1k or close they are not that really high, considering where they were 2 years ago. actually the market has sank +50%. strangely, the numeric sub-sector, that has even less developed sites, has been hit less, go figure.
     

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