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Many of you like Rob Monster because the information that he posted. But many did not realize that he SPAMS the forums whenever he has a chance.
- Spamming/Promoting his company everywhere
- He also hired a team here and tell them to spam the forums also.
Too much is too much and this needed to be stopped.
- OP asked about Godaddy who is privacy. He inserted an Epik link
https://www.namepros.com/threads/wh...rom-godaddy-to-namesilo.1166442/#post-7531080
And many more:
https://www.namepros.com/threads/what-will-happen-to-our-domains-when-we-die.1167187/#post-7530982

He even inserted a link from Webhostingtalk.com which considers Namepros competitor.
https://www.namepros.com/threads/is...like-in-the-digital-age.1167212/#post-7530874

I don't hate the guy. It's just spamming too much or he may have some mental problems?



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wow, this got ugly.

My question is what is this about a 15 day grace period? No domain should ever be transferred after only 15 days, that's terrible imo. I would love to see Epik stop sending expired domains anywhere. Let the domain go through the drop process! Its not your name to sell, you never paid for it!

Problem with just letting it drop, will probably get snatched up by someone with log of registrar credentials like Huge Domains, now how does that seem fair? I'd rather have a chance to get that inventory for myself by bidding on it once the registrant doen't renew after a reasonable grace period. I do agree that 15 days seems a bit short though. Should be at least 30 IMO.
 
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LOL...Samer beat me to it. At gddy you have the privilege of paying a 'membership' fee so you can get better pricing on domains. Beautiful.

I'm looking forward to the Epik auction solution...there is room in the space for a simple method for selling domains thru auctions other than the current providers. The only one I use anymore is gddy...I've had very negative experiences at most of the other ones.
 
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Says the CEO of a company who opts for a 15 day grace period to be applied by default.

Are you kidding me?! How in the world does that default say, "our first duty is to the current registrant" ?!

Wow, @Grilled, that is some harsh stuff.

First of all, we are largely self-funded by yours truly. So, when we sell domains below cost, as we sometimes do, guess who does not draw a paycheck to make that party possible for a few more folks.

Second, when domains go into grace period, guess who covers that renewal fee? That's right, the registrar. So, at any given time, a vast amount of cash is on deposit at registries to cover auto-renews.

Third, as for those quarterly rebates from Verisign, we maxed out Q4 in in the first week of October. We'll get paid in February.

I wish we could just serve free lunch all day, forever, but there is a hard cost to grace periods, especially for .COM which cuts no slack.

In the event you personally need a more liberal grace period, or an interest-free domain loan, just come ask for it. You see at Epik, we actually talk to customers, and not just the top 1% as some ridiculously assert
 
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It varies by registrar. Some registrars offer little or no grace period after expiration. Others are more generous. There is an argument from the registry/registrar side that the ownership of the domain name ceases when the domain name expires. Domain names used to be deleted on expiration and the two grace periods are the product of a long argument that's lasted nearly two decades.


Thanks for the info. Any grace period is just that...grace. When something expires it expires...coupons, rebates, humans, etc. There has to be a specific time a domain name no longer belongs to the registrant if they do not renew it to allow it to go back into the available pool. More times than I care to admit I miss re-regging a name and I am grateful to have a grace period...at Epik I have yet to pay a penalty...at gddy it seemed to be one of their favorite revenue streams back in the day....btw, I appreciate your site.
 
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wow, this got ugly.

My question is what is this about a 15 day grace period? No domain should ever be transferred after only 15 days, that's terrible imo. I would love to see Epik stop sending expired domains anywhere. Let the domain go through the drop process! Its not your name to sell, you never paid for it!
Epik doesn’t explain why certain customers get special privilege. Their attempt at justification is that certain customers keep more domains than you on the platform.
How does that rub you? It Robs you!!!
 
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Epik doesn’t explain why certain customers get special privilege. Their attempt at justification is that certain customers keep more domains than you on the platform.
How does that rub you? It Robs you!!!

Which customers got this special treatment? It was not that MobileWallet.com customer as you asserted. He just had a longer grace period than is standard but there was no clawback of a delivered domain here.

Seriously, just sending you a digital hug since I am truly mystified to understand the groundless animosity on a nothingburger of an event. I am sorry you did not win the lottery. That's all I have.
 
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Which customers got this special treatment? It was not that MobileWallet.com customer as you asserted. He just had a longer grace period than is standard but there was no clawback of a delivered domain here.

Seriously, just sending you a digital hug since I am truly mystified to understand the groundless animosity on a nothingburger of an event. I am sorry you did not win the lottery. That's all I have.
According to you and staff, 1% get special treatment based on the number of domains registered at epik. Don’t make me go back and show your old posts. You’ll lose in a second.

Point is, why do you have separate rules for customers? This is why you come off dirty
 
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A lot of companies give preferential treatment to its top customers, I don't really see anything wrong with that.
 
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According to you and staff, 1% get special treatment based on the number of domains registered at epik. Don’t make me go back and show your old posts. You’ll lose in a second.

Point is, why do you have separate rules for customers? This is why you come off dirty

I actually reviewed your support ticket #26441. With your permission, I will post the entire transcript, removing your name and email address. Please approve and we'll get this settled.
 
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Problem with just letting it drop, will probably get snatched up by someone with log of registrar credentials like Huge Domains, now how does that seem fair?
There were over 2 million deletions in .COM alone in November 2019. All domain names do not get reregistered as it would cost too much. Approximately 36% of the 01 November 2019 .COM zone were reregistrations. The registrars also cannot delete domain names as easily. HD and others target what they consider valuable domain names. Sometimes it works out and they sell but a lot of them will sit on their DNS for years.

Regards...jmcc
 
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Wow, @Grilled, that is some harsh stuff.

Me repeating your policy is harsh?

I don't know any other way to ask, how does a 15 day grace renewal policy say, we put the registrant first at epik? Because in that context alone, I'm not sure there is a way to say a 15 day grace renewal policy puts the registrant first at epik.

It seems to me, that epik is making all these features and incentives for me to move my domain to epik, but then, I'll be blindsided by the 15 day grace delete, and if I'm not mistaken, I could lose my domain to a backorder at day 16?

The fix is for me to request special privileges and have grace delete(s) in my account pushed back by a new specially requested default?

#WeAreAllEqual #BlessedIsNotWhomEverKissesThyKingsAss
 
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According to you and staff, 1% get special treatment based on the number of domains registered at epik. Don’t make me go back and show your old posts. You’ll lose in a second.

Point is, why do you have separate rules for customers? This is why you come off dirty

I have manybe 40-50 domains currently between all registrars, much fewer currently at Epik, but their team has been great to me, going above and beyond, and I am clearly far from close to the 1%. From what I can tell they will work with anyone, so long as your request isn't outrageous. And I know of no other registrar where I can email the CEO or pm him on NP and get a response....
 
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There were over 2 million deletions in .COM alone in November 2019. All domain names do not get reregistered as it would cost to much. The registrars also cannot delete domain names as easily. HD and others target what they consider valuable domain names. Sometimes it works out and they sell but a lot of them will sit on their DNS for years.

Regards...jmcc

I have commented elsewhere on the topic of the winner-take-all expiry stream model made possibly by Godaddy auctions (expiry auction) and Huge Domains (dropcatching). It creates a de facto duopoly where zero benefit accrues to the registrant and where small budget domain investors are often unable to participate, e.g. through low cost financing, leases or options.

I am very eager to do something about that, and hope to equip registrants of expiring domains with a better chance to monetize their own expiry stream. @DanSanchez and @Ala Dadan are hard at work on the solution that I think the industry will appreciate. I can't link to it but you can search for the thread about "Domain Liquidation Platform" by @DanSanchez.

Stay tuned. This is not talk.
 
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There were over 2 million deletions in .COM alone in November 2019. All domain names do not get reregistered as it would cost too much. Approximately 36% of the 01 November 2019 .COM zone were reregistrations. The registrars also cannot delete domain names as easily. HD and others target what they consider valuable domain names. Sometimes it works out and they sell but a lot of them will sit on their DNS for years.

Regards...jmcc

So they get to get the good ones and I'm stuck with the crap that is too bad for them to pursue? If you want to talk about unfair, everyone should have an equal chance to get names but when they have the capability to dropcatch names themselves its not fair. There is no good answer but I think auctions are the lesser of two evils so to speak that somewhat level the playing field for those of us who aren't ICANN accredited registrars ourselves.
 
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I actually reviewed your support ticket #26441. With your permission, I will post the entire transcript, removing your name and email address. Please approve and we'll get this settled.
Please do! I have it from Jessica.

On day 16 the domain didn’t hit my account. You chalked it up to special privilege.
essica (Epik)

Aug 17, 12:21 PDT

Keith,

Thank you for supplying some history here.
While the rep you spoke to supplied valid information for 99% such cases, we (Epik) have a few clients that have an extended grace renewal time. The domain owner in this case has a longer grace renewal period therefore that is why that 16 day delivery did not apply here.
Sorry for the miscommunication there.

Special Privilege!
 
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I see what the OP is talking about. Even this thread has turned into an Epik promo. Can we move it to the promotional section?
 
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I see what the OP is talking about. Even this thread has turned into an Epik promo. Can we move it to the promotional section?

ever wonder if epik competitors’ Ceo have NP? this could be it!

Samer
 
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I have commented elsewhere on the topic of the winner-take-all expiry stream model made possibly by Godaddy auctions (expiry auction) and Huge Domains (dropcatching). It creates a de facto duopoly where zero benefit accrues to the registrant and where small budget domain investors are often unable to participate, e.g. through low cost financing, leases or options.
Godaddy has significant market power as it has about 25% of the global gTLD market. HD is a relatively small player by comparison. The number of retail registrars in the gTLDs is much smaller than the 2,400 or so accredited registrars and much of that 2,400 are dropcatchers.

Regards...jmcc
 
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I see what the OP is talking about. Even this thread has turned into an Epik promo. Can we move it to the promotional section?
I see it as EPIK addressing and answering incoming questions and concerns members is stating about his company. I don't view someone who is answering questions in reference to him or his company as a PROMO....
 
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So they get to get the good ones and I'm stuck with the crap that is too bad for them to pursue? If you want to talk about unfair, everyone should have an equal chance to get names but when they have the capability to dropcatch names themselves its not fair.
Technically, the registrars pay more for being able to dropcatch. They have to create a registrar and then pay ICANN the fees on top of the whole registry credit financials. It is not a level playing field and there's only one rule: the customer always pays no matter who the customer is.

There is no good answer but I think auctions are the lesser of two evils so to speak that somewhat level the playing field for those of us who aren't ICANN accredited registrars ourselves.
They are a step in the right direction but even that is weighted in favour of the large registrars.

Regards...jmcc
 
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Technically, the registrars pay more for being able to dropcatch. They have to create a registrar and then pay ICANN the fees on top of the whole registry credit financials. It is not a level playing field and there's only one rule: the customer always pays no matter who the customer is.

They are a step in the right direction but even that is weighted in favour of the large registrars.

Regards...jmcc
 
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Technically, the registrars pay more for being able to dropcatch. They have to create a registrar and then pay ICANN the fees on top of the whole registry credit financials. It is not a level playing field and there's only one rule: the customer always pays no matter who the customer is.

They are a step in the right direction but even that is weighted in favour of the large registrars.

Regards...jmcc

Thats my point exactly they can afford that, someone like me, can't...
 
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This isn’t a casino. Rules apply..
 
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