Registrars Allowing Transfer of Expired Domains

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I was able to transfer a domain away from Fabulous.com which had been expired for more than 36 days. Now that's what I call complying with ICANN regulations. Thanks Fabulous.com

I know that if you start the transfer before expiry at eNom.com, they allow the transfer. I haven't tried transferring an expired domain to see what happens. Anyone up to trying that?

Please post your other Registrar experiences here for others to see.
 
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I did once with Fabulous as well. I think expired like 2 weeks. Never tried with other registrar.
 
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It seems some registers allow transfers after expiry and I have found that all registers I have used allow transfers before the last expiry date at least. You can transfer well after expiry from Dotster to MyDomain.com or Domain.com as they are all owned by same company.
 
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The only registrar that I had experienced got denied for transfer is GoDaddy due to change of contact info of whois.

Most registrars deny transfer within 60 days after register or transfer.
Enom and some registrar working with Namejet have "auction lock" for winner of prerelease domain roughly 40~45 days.
 
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I know that if you start the transfer before expiry at eNom.com, they allow the transfer. I haven't tried transferring an expired domain to see what happens. Anyone up to trying that?

eNom will allow transfer out after expiration under special circumstances...

In addition, if one already has the expired domain's authcode (from what I recall, at eNom, it stays stays the same after expiry) and the domain was unlocked (but most domains aren't by default) and remains unlocked after expiration, then a transfer out will likely go through fine. Risky though, and not something one should rely on, except in special, one-off situations.

On a related note, if one renews a gTLD domain that recently expired within the 45 day renew grace period and then transfers it out within that same time period, an extra year may not be added. For "thin" registries, such as .com and .net, this can potentially lead to expiration date mismatches between registry and registrar, which may lead to future, unexpected surprises, such as the domain expiring a year sooner than expected.

In regards to GoDaddy and their 60 day no transfer rule due to change of registrant - a reminder email to GoDaddy about ICANN policy not allowing such restrictions gets things moving.

The only 60 days time restrictions that matter are:

* Domain was newly registered within past 60 days.

* Domain was transferred out less than 60 days ago.

Ron
 
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... eNom.com ... I haven't tried transferring an expired domain to see what happens. Anyone up to trying that?
The moment your domain name expires, it is shifted to the "expired domains" tab, which lacks the normal operations that you can perform on the name: "UNLock" and "Send Authorization Key to Registrant" are 2 of them.

So in short, NO.

Haven't tried calling their "Technical Help" though.

:)
 
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OK. that's good to know Silhouette. What are the special circumstances under which eNom will allow a transfer of an expired domain, Domagon.
 
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I didn't know about that with Fabulous, what a great feature!

I'd use Fab more often but for some reason my renewal prices seem to be outrageous - something like $19.99 or $29.99 for .com's (can't remember exactly, its been a while since I last logged in).

I know with eNom (as Silhouette pointed out) there is a lack of functionality once a domain has expired. I know this, because I have a .info in my reseller account which I can't move into a sub-account... the only way to renew is by adding $100 credit to my account - which is a lot considering I only have 3 domains there.

I think there are a few registrars that allow "domain push" after expiry, I think its ResellerClub - at most top registrars (ie. Godaddy, DynaDot, Name etc) it doesn't seem possible.

Anyway, way to go Fabulous!
Just need to figure out how to get my renewal prices to norm and I might just switch all my names to them in future.
 
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That's probably the new tiered pricing system Fabulous use. I used to have hundreds of domains there, but even that wasn't enough to get their best prices. I haven't renewed a domain at Fabulous since the tiered pricing system was introduced. That transfer was my last. I only have 1 domain there now, which I'm going to let drop when it expires. bye bye Fabulous. It was nice while it lasted. But I'm a realist. Low prices cannot last forever.
 
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The moment your domain name expires, it is shifted to the "expired domains" tab, which lacks the normal operations that you can perform on the name: "UNLock" and "Send Authorization Key to Registrant" are 2 of them.

So in short, NO.

Haven't tried calling their "Technical Help" though.

:)

Silhouette,

Any Registrar that blocks a domain transfer while the domain is expired but still in the auto-renew grace period is in violation of their
"Registrar Accreditation Agreement".

Please see this:

"Registrar Advisory Concerning the Inter-Registrar Transfer Policy

April 03, 2008


The purpose of this advisory is to assist ICANN-accredited registrars in understanding that under the Inter-Registrar Transfer Policy:


1. Registrars are prohibited from denying a domain name transfer request based on non-payment of fees for pending or future registration periods during the Auto-Renew Grace Period
; and


2. A registrant change to Whois information is not a valid basis for denying a transfer request.

The Inter-Registrar Transfer Policy ("Transfer Policy") was adopted by ICANN as a consensus policy in 2004 in order to assist domain name holders in transferring their domain names from one ICANN-accredited registrar to another upon request. The Transfer Policy is available at ICANN | Policy on Transfer of Registrations between Registrars.

1. Pursuant to the Transfer Policy, registrars are prohibited from denying domain name transfer requests based on non-payment of fees for pending or future registration periods during the Auto-Renew Grace Period.

This section of the advisory considers the scenario when a registrar denies a transfer request made by the registrant during the Auto-Renew Grace Period, if the registrant has not paid for renewal.

Pursuant to Section A.3 of the Transfer Policy, registrars are permitted to deny outgoing transfers of gTLD domain names only in the limited circumstances specifically enumerated by the Transfer Policy. One of these circumstances is:

5. No payment for previous registration period (including credit card charge-backs) if the domain name is past its expiration date or for previous or current registration periods if the domain name has not yet expired. In all such cases, however, the domain name must be put into "Registrar Hold" status by the Registrar of Record prior to the denial of transfer.

The Transfer Policy further states that, "Instances when the requested change in Registrar may not be denied include, but are not limited to: Nonpayment for a pending or future registration period…"

In those cases where a registrant has paid all past registration fees, but has not paid for renewal, and the domain name is in the Auto-Renew Grace Period, registrars are prohibited from denying a transfer request, as a registration in the Auto-Renew Grace Period is either a "pending or future" registration, during which time the Transfer Policy prohibits denial of transfers on the basis of non-payment.

While issues related to domain name transfers initiated during the Auto Renew Grace period are under consideration by the GNSO’s Transfers Working Group, ICANN’s intention with this advisory is to provide clarification of existing policy.

Registrars are advised that under the Transfer Policy they may not deny a transfer request on the basis of non-payment of fees during the Auto-Renew Grace Period, unless the denial is based on non-payment for a past registration period. Registrars that impose policies or procedures on their registrants that are contrary to this determination are in violation of the Transfer Policy."
 
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Somebody should tell that to eNom & GoDaddy.
 
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What are the special circumstances under which eNom will allow a transfer of an expired domain, Domagon.

An example would be a domain that was pushed, but the receiver couldn't transfer it out in time due to registry / registrar whois mismatch problems.

Ie. I sold and pushed over some .ORG domains, then sometime later on, the buyer tried to transfer them out (it was already very close to the expiration date), but unknownst to the buyer or me, the transfer out authorization emails the initiating registrar kept sending were going to an old email address of mine. Took awhile before the buyer and myself realized the issue was eNom didn't update the whois info at the .ORG registry. This flaw, last I checked, still exists - so when doing pushes of "thick" registry gTLDs (.org, .us, etc) at eNom, the person receiving it should then "force" an update of the registry, by resubmitting the contact name data.

Ron
 
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OK. Good to know Ron. Thanks.
 
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so does it mean that you can wait 2 months and then transfer to another registrar ?
 
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so does it mean that you can wait 2 months and then transfer to another registrar ?

No.

The domain has to be in the Renewal Grace period and that will depend on the Registrar you originally chose.

I think GoDaddy is about 26 days.

1and1 will delete your expired domain pretty quickly.

Check your Registrar's terms for the Renewal Grace period.
 
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