domain Refrigerator.app

[Picorio]

Hi team, any idea about a substantial price for this REFRIGERATOR.APP domain or any way I can personally use it or even better if it's worth to hold it down for a couple of years? Your imput will be greatly appreciated!

 

[barman]

I don't see the value in the keyword. It's too hard to spell and long. Doesn't really go with the app tld either.

And if you're paying a premium renewal fee (more than $14) I'd drop it immediately.

 

[GenericDomainz]

It's very special, I very very very doubt that Refrigerator producing or Refrigerator programming companies will buy it

 

[Martins B.]

Too hard to spell, no real value.

 

[Picorio]

Really? So REFRIGERATOR.COM is too hard to spell? so it doesn't have real value right?

 

[Picorio]

Refrigerator.net was sold for $16,000. Isn't it too hard to spell?

 

[barman]

Refrigerator.net was sold for $16,000. Isn't it too hard to spell?

This $16K sale happened 8 years ago when keyword domains were much higher. I went to do some research and guess what ... I spelled it wrong... and I'm a pretty good speller. So yeah, it's hard to spell.

Look at refrigerator.com, refrigerator.net, refrigerator.org, refrigerator.co... all parked by domain speculators. It's very unlikely a brand or company is going to come along and be like "We need to call ourselves refrigerator." (see ... I keep spelling it wrong.)

Freezer. Fridge. These are cool words. Refrigerator is not. Add the $120+ renewal fee and you have yourself a nice money drain.

Also I love people on NP getting butt hurt in appraisal threads. If several people are telling you it's a bad name, maybe you should listen...?

 

[GenericDomainz]

Refrigerator.net was sold for $16,000. Isn't it too hard to spell?

.Net is much much more popular than .app

 

[Picorio]

I see the point now. Thank you all of you for the time expent to respond. I'm sorry for the aggressive responses that I threw out early during this thread...

Cheers!

 

[artstar]

u will get zero positive feedback on any domain doesnt matter what it is. people want u to fail not succeed so take what these negative comments with little regard! its atypical domainer behaviour. crap on the other guys stuff cause they never get positive feedback either. its been all the same for years.

i once owned a handreg of winecellars.co when .co came out

i asked for an opinion on value. it was all negative cause it was .co. and had an s, within 3 months i sold it for us$3299. so there u go.

oh and btw google will default to show refrigerator in the search bar so there goes that argument about hard to spell which is a sad joke anyhow for people in the word business who cant spell it! dah now u know why the average iq is 80!!

 

[Picorio]

Thank you so much Artstar. I'm new on NamePros but I've been buying and holding domains for quite few years. I do have around 300 domains in my portfolio which many of them being .app. Now I m a little confused with some app domains I have.

 

[artstar]

app is cool. i believe has potential since google just regged the domain driverless.app a couple of weeks ago. they own the app extension but its applicable for alot of domains in my opinion

 

[Picorio]

Awesome!!! I thought that when the app extension first came out last year and I found out Google owns it.
I'm still feeling excited with some app domains I own such us:

Veterinary/app
Gloves/app
Asianporn/app
Guitars/app
Hairloss/app
Backpain/app
Etc....etc.
However, I just noticed in Dnjournal that app domains just started to sell good
Such us:
Dubai.app $10,000
Date.app $ $5500
Gym.app $ 5,550
Assistant.app $5,000
Bao.app$ 7,500
Yun.app $ 7,500
Don't you think so?

 

[simran.net]

No value IMO.

 

[xynames]

Hi @artstar. I think it's a reach for you to say that 100% of the feedback one gets when putting a domain or sale up here for review is negative, but certainly there will be some comments on both ends, plus and minus. I also think it is inaccurate to attach a motive to all of the negative feedback, attributing it all to "hater" objectives.

I don't post completed sales at NamePros, I don't want to see posted in public, and especially don't want my buyers to see, the inevitable debate over whether it sold too high or too low.

As far as this .co of yours, winecellars , you seem to be saying that you had registered it right <<when .co came out>>? and then sold it <<within 3 months>>? If so, as a brand new extension, perhaps there was some undue excitement over its being new, with great expectations, that, as far as I know, have not been realized (as has been the case with the vast majority of new extensions...most have bitten the dust over time). I don't think you're saying that this experience with one brand new .co purchased right when .co was itself brand new, means that buying up plural not so valued keywords in non-dot com extensions is always or even necessarily, a good thing?

 

[artstar]

in the majority of posts that people ask for opinions its negative. not a lot r positive its the nature of people. crap on what they dont have period doesnt matter how good it is. thats life in all areas not just domaining!

so take it as u want but from my experience domainers and domaining is a very tuff nut to crack, u cant rely on opinion. go with your gut

 

[xynames]

BTW as far as refrigerator, my SubZero is on the blink, rapidly losing cooling. I called the home warranty service to send someone out. I researched the local repair guys in order to screen out the ones that the warranty service might try to send, that have bad ratings.
Does that mean that I would have searched refrigerator dot app to find a repairman or that local refrigerator repair places would band together to post on such a website or app? I think not.

Is there a centralized manufacturer or retailer that would want to post all of its refrigerators in one place? Again, I don't think so.

I went ahead and took a look at refrigerator dot com, which certainly would be the highest and best use of this keyword in the highest and best extension, dot com, - it's just a hyperlink factory.

As far as recent times (2018), domains like refrigerator dot co sold for 130 , refrigerator dot org 500 / 610, so I don't see why refrigerator dot app would be worth much more, if even as much.

 

[bmugford]

in the majority of posts that people ask for opinions its negative. not a lot r positive its the nature of people. crap on what they dont have period doesnt matter how good it is. thats life in all areas not just domaining!

The majority of domains are bad. That is the reason.

Brad

 

[artstar]

sure buddy whatever u say u r a np lifer so u must know.

 

[Bob Hawkes]

At first glance although I would agree that refrigerator is a fine generic word (and respectfully don't agree with those who argue it is difficult to spell) it maybe feels a bit too generic with .app for a high value.

There are multiple uses, though, where it would make sense. For example

• Relation to the smart refrigerators which all the big manufacturers are now into (although most would use their name I think).
• There are not a tiny number of apps that show you how to effectively use your refrigerator, leftovers, etc. Here is an article from a few years ago on 10 of them.
• More playful game type apps on a refrigerator theme. Undoubtedly some now and more down road.
• An app that guides you in selecting a refrigerator (e.g. features, specs, reviews, etc.) To me this is the most logical use for the domain.

I had a look at the 25 .app sales in NameBio, but not many are really comparable. By a stretch, one might consider gym ($5652) sort of comparable in type of use. I guess if forced to suggest an asking price, it would be in that region, to an end user. Whether to hold would depend partly on the renewal - this carries a premium renewal fee, I presume, or is it standard?

Best wishes with it.

Bob

 

[barman]

The majority of domains are bad. That is the reason.

Brad

Exactly. I spend a good amount of time in the domain appraisal section. I would love to appraise good names to sharpen my skills through my research and what not. I love talking about good names.

The problem is 90% of the names here are trash. I'm not going through the trouble of "appraising" a name like "CandyTowerColorado.net" that someone hand-registered last week.

 

[xynames]

There are three ways to respond here: one is with reality, the other is with pipe dreams and the third...is to give some lengthy response that doesn't say anything in the end one way or another.

I chose the reality response, but this time gave some reasoning for why I thought the domain wasn't worth much, versus simply saying "reg fee" "zero point zero" etc.

 

[Bob Hawkes]

any idea about a substantial price for this REFRIGERATOR.APP domain or any way I can personally use it

My previous post gave four possible ways the name might find use.

I think any of us will be pretty uncertain re price simply because .app has only been around a year and (at least in NameBio) there are only 25 sales.

The positive is that the prices when they have sold are quite strong. Of the 25 sales, 4 are in five figures, 15 are in four figures, and 6 in three figures. The average is $5589 , substantially higher than .com.

Now for the negative. There were 25 sales and as of today Dofo indicates that there are 44,700 .app domain names for sale. That means that the apparent sell through rate is only 0.00056, or in other words about 1 in 1800 of an .app domain name selling in one year. Now NameBio misses a substantial fraction of all sales, but still that is a discouraging number.

By comparison the .com sell through rate for the last year is 0.0049 as of now. In other words an .app domain name typically sells for about 5x more than a .com on average in the aftermarket, but it is less likely to sell by almost a factor of 10.

Probably both of these are influenced by a lot of domainer to domainer .com trades just above the $100 value, that increases the sell through rate but decreases the average price. Even if I change to a $200 cutoff though .com sell through is significantly better.

You ask about holding or folding. That is where it moves from an analysis of what has happened this year, to theoretical projections what is likely to happen in future. I will leave that for others who know the .app market better to theorize about. And of course the really hard question is not how likely on average an .app is to sell, but how likely refrigerator is to sell.

Bob

 

[bmugford]

Now for the negative. There were 25 sales and as of today Dofo indicates that there are 44,700 .app domain names for sale. That means that the apparent sell through rate is only 0.00056, or in other words about 1 in 1800 of an .app domain name selling in one year. Now NameBio misses a substantial fraction of all sales, but still that is a discouraging number.

If you look at the sales 20 of those 25 sales are for terms with 7 or less characters.
Only (1) is over 10 characters.

The rare .APP that do sell are short terms.

Brad

 

[Picorio]

Bob thank you, thank you, and thank you for that thoughtful response! It's much appreciated! I definitely will take notes from your research to better handle my app domains whenever I feel like selling them. Awesome research