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Now before I start to give my opinion on the Indian extension, I wish to convey the fact that I am definitely NOT trying to hype up the .IN scene to propagate my own portfolio or investments, which many people often believe when domainers make positive comments on certain extensions. Although I must say that I am the owner of a fair few nice .IN names, I feel that I am quite behind with .IN and therefore playing catch up on pretty much a daily basis now through hand regs and buying on reseller market, trying to build up a decent portfolio of .in at reasonable prices, before its too late. Many strong key (and clever) players have been in the .IN game for many many years, secretly trading amongst themselves and waiting for the explosion that is about to occur in the next few months.

I started investing in .IN a few years back but it has only been over the last couple of years, that I have realized the true potential in this amazing extension. Many years ago, I had initially thought that .in was only good for domain hacks, with quite a few companies all over the globe buying .in names primarily for only that purpose ( many still do) and not even thinking about the traffic from India but I only fully realized a couple of years ago that I was very wrong about .in and wished that I had got in much earlier and I think that the Chinese are also realising that now too.

I am sure you are all aware of the recent rapid momentum with NNN.ins & LLL.ins which are showing growth at an unprecedented speed, prices increasing on a daily basis. This shows the potential of .IN and also a precursor of what is going to happen in the coming months. And in a matter of speaking, I guess it is already starting to happen right now as we speak, with more and more end users buying .Ins and interesting being sparked all over India and globally too. After rapid increases in NNN.ins & LLL.ins sparked by the Chinese, then will come massive increases in sale prices of .IN keywords, which are already becoming hot property in India right now anyway.

The .IN extension is definitely the future of the Indian Webspace and the market is starting to move extremely fast at this moment in time, some very exciting times ahead! Not sure if you guys have been keeping up to date with the news, but over the last few months, there has been some very big news about the Indian webspace market. Flipkart, India’s largest e-commerce company, raised $6 Billion in total venture capitalists, and $1 Billion just last year and the company is now valued at $15 Billion. This funding figure matches facebook’s fundraising back in 2011 and makes it the third largest deal of its kind in the world!

Also during the same week last year, Amazon announced a $2 Billion investment in its India unit and has recently stated that India is the next ‘Trillion Dollar’ market, stating that the size of opportunity in India is so large it will be measured in trillions, not billions!

There are many excellent figures for India's internet entrepreneurs from the commitment and faith in India of the larger firms & global corporations. There have been many such multi-billion/million deals last year and this year seems just as exciting, if not more. There are also major rumors now that Walmart's entry into Indian e-commerce is very imminent! Things are starting to move extremely quickly over there and the market is about to mature to a completely new level guys! Just yesterday, the Prime Minister of India launched a $1.5 Billion fund for new startups. India truly is on the cusp of a digital revolution. Mobile phone subscriptions in the country have already passed the 1 Billion mark and these are now quickly being replaced by smartphones. This is pretty much a once in a lifetime moment, and the prime minister has stated that “the transformation occuring is on a scale that is, perhaps, unmatched in human history”.

The changing landscape in India is now moving at neck breaking speed. Internet access has rapidly expanded and the Reliance Group is due to make a move by summer of this year that will totally change everything in India, with EXTREMELY cheap access to 4G! Already mostly through mobile devices, Indians are now increasingly shifting daily activity online, like reading the newspaper, doing bank transactions and buying goods and services, from shoes to refrigerators etc….

Nowadays in India, billboards, text messages and emails bombard people every day with news of deep online-only discounts and special offers. By June, more Indians are expected to access the Internet on their cellphones — 371 million — than the entire population of the United States! And we are just talking about cellphone internet connections here, not even including the other initiatives in fixed line, fibre optic, cable connections etc…

Just this week, an indian firm just released a smartphone that is priced under 500 rupees, less than 5 USD (1% of the price of the latest Apple iPhone). The current median in India age is 27, nearly a full decade younger than in China!

E-commerce in India is growing at a compound annual rate of 34 percent, according to the Internet and Mobile Association of India.

By next year, many experts agree on the fact that there will be half a billion Indians online. India has already surpassed the USA in terms of number of users. A flood of cheap smartphones in the market is encouraging rapid internet adoption and an online revolution is taking place. Unlike the other BRIC countries such a China, Russia and Brazil, the consumers in India are largely Anglophone which means that as Indians become the second-largest nationality online (after the Chinese), they simultaneously will become the single largest group on the English-language internet. A vast majority of them using the English language as the preferred way to communicate online!


On top of that mobile increase, fibre optic subscribers through the Indian government's NOFN project are likely to reach over 600 million by 2020! With average Internet speeds in India set to triple over the next couple of years, this is going to be the LARGEST MARKET in the world and it will all start kicking off towards sometime this summer!



India is the worlds largest democracy and has the second largest population of English speakers in the world. It also currently has the world's largest youth population. In total the population of India is equivalent of more than the populations of Europe and the US combined! Just think about this sort of opportunity guys!

Just literally a few months ago, Japans richest man (owner of SoftBank) invested $627million in an Indian web company and stated that is had plans to invest $10Billion over the next couple of years due to the vast market potential of India.



India's population has now crossed over the 1 billion mark, more than half of its population are younger than 25 and nearly 70 percent of its 1.25 billion population is under 40. Therefore in absolute numbers, this is actually unprecedented anywhere in the history of the world. It also comes at a time when much of the developed world and also China have aging populations. Overall, India will overtake China as the largest population in the world before 2030. At the current growth rate, India will easily exceed 600 million internet users by 2018 or much before that. This will make India the biggest open internet access market in the world and therefore this is the place to capitalize on some serious growth. And remember guys, India is the largest DEMOCRACY in the world, and that word democracy is what is changing the minds of Google, Twitter, Facebook, Uber etc…to start moving away from China and more into India.

India is also set to overtake the U.S. as the world's largest Facebook market by number of users before the end of this year, which already at over 135 million users, is the only country specific market in the world where Facebook is aspiring to have 1 billion users, nowhere else are they or can they even aspire for this guys. It was literally just a few months ago that Zuckerberg met with Modi to discuss the push forward of internet useage in India and has been in India yet again to push his ideas. Discussions are always continuing with the top web corporations and the politicians of India, to push forward Internet useage in the country.

India added 100 million new users to the Internet in 2015, taking the country to more than 400 million users -- more than there are residents of the US. But with another 800 million yet to be connected, the world's biggest tech companies are eager to be a part of India's consumer tech boom in the next few years. Between Google last month beginning its mission to hook up train stations around India with free Wi-Fi and Facebook's controversial Free Basics initiative, which will give limited e-services to the poor at no cost, expect the numbers to only accelerate. In 2015, smartphone sales in India eclipsed those in the US for the first time ever, according to Counterpoint Research. China remains the world's largest phone market, but it's nearing saturation point, with growth stalling in 2015 for the first time. The US is a similarly tough nut to crack, with 79 percent of people already owning smartphones, according to ComScore.

Due to these statistics and current initiatives and business projects taking place in this country, India is of course set to shortly become the largest population of web users in the world!

I realize guys that many of you may primarily be involved in .COM and you may ask that although India is rapidly becoming a massive user base in the online world, why would the users move to a cctld like .IN rather than .COM or another of the many new/old extensions? My belief is that .COM is becoming slightly saturated or which I why I chose .IN over .COM when concentrating on ROI.


Of course, I believe that .COM is still CURRENTLY king globally and will be king for a long long time, there is no denying that. I personally started off in domaining over 12 years ago with primarily .coms, .orgs and .nets. I now have no .coms in my portfolio and have also sold most of my .nets and .orgs too to generate enough funds to buy into .IN which I believe is the next big thing for sure! .Com is great for primarily international/USA traffic, but Google has a local search site for many individual countries, for example Google.ca for Canada, Google.fr for France & Google.co.uk for the UK. These local search engines tend to give priority to local domains and Google in India will tend to give priority for .IN extensions when end users are searching for specific items. Therefore IF any major corporation is interested in gaining traffic from INDIAN customers then they will need the .IN extension to further this cause and create a highly ranked online portal to their store/services through the Indian webspace, which now many of them are already doing. I know that algorithms are continually changing and take into account many more other factors than this, and I may not be completely correct in my understanding. But using the .IN extension to start operations in India is a growing market and many global/Indian corporations are already doing this. .IN is now the primary extension for India and is unbeatable in generating traffic for businesses through the web whom want to capitalize on India’s enormous population. 



Most companies based within India are using .IN sites as their primary websites and redirecting their .com sites to the .IN ones and having been doing so for many years now. Also, many international companies are already using .IN sites as their primary portals for Indian originated specific traffic and then transferring into their .com sites or even just using the .IN sites as their primary sites over there, built specifically for the Indian market. Most international companies use ccTLDs in this manner and they are not just bought as a defensive move to protect their trademark and name, although this is definitely also a major advantage of owning all important extensions of a brand in new major emerging markets. Also another great stat is that the IMF have concluded that the total size of the Indian economy is set to surpass that of Japan and Germany combined by 2019.

Again, why not .com for Indians? Well .com is still used by Indians and it always will be just as it is still used by Germans or the British. But INDIAN users do often prefer the .IN extension over .com, unless of course they are specifically looking for products or services that are based outside of India. This is similar to markets such as the UK in which .co.uk is the predominant extension used, German market where .de is used over .com unless looking for global services etc.....Yet India is even more nationalistic than most of these other countries and in a similar manner to China, Indians always prefer to use INDIAN identifiable services & options due to long established trust and pride in their country and this is exactly why the .IN extension is prime real estate for the Indian webspace. It is also the preferred extension that is being pushed by the Indian government and that is exactly why many are now investing in .IN names.



Guys, im sure you're pretty much up to date with the current marketplace anyway but yeah go ahead and check out the statistics for yourself in regards to India and i'm pretty sure that you'll agree with me when I say that it is going to blow up in a massive way! All of these stats that I have mentioned can be verified on many established global business/news sites with a simple google search.

There's literally $Billions currently being poured into the Indian Webspace and Indian Internet usage right now, every single western/global company is dying to get in and many Indian companies are racking up their arsenal as we speak. The newly formed government is extremely pro-digital and the word on the street is that they are going to quickly start easing out a lot of national policies, making it easier to carry out business/services online. This already occurred yesterday in the start up sector.

I'm not sure if you guys are aware of what occurred just over a decade ago in relation to the telecoms industry over there but it went absolutely crazy and led to a full on price war in relation to tariffs and mobile phone products, which led to India rapidly becoming the number two country of the highest users of mobile devices in the world (soon to become number one). Yet this time, the rate of growth is expected to be more than triple that in relation to web usage, smartphone adoption ect.... Extremely cheap 4G with subsidised smartphones, tablets is expected to be rolled out on a national scale in 2016 by major companies such as Reliance ect.....

The number of end users in India is already set to surpass the number in USA, and we've not even reached the quarter way point in terms of the size of population in India.

The major western corporates are already betting big on India and by the end of the year, it'll be far too late to get in on the game as many old school players would've already got a foothold on the major keywords and won't be letting go for spare change. I myself wish I had go in earlier on the .IN game. BUT there is still massive opportunity RIGHT NOW, as it is STILL a buyer’s market which I don’t believe will be the case in one years time!
And since the market is on the cusp of exploding in India and I know the potential worth of these names in a year or two time will be immense.



Guys, you have to realise that by 2018, India will have twice the number of Internet users as the US does and has already overtaken the US in terms of number of user at the end of last year. Of course the market will take a while to fully mature, but in sheer advertising potential alone, this is amazing! And plus the speed of adoption nowadays both in web services and ecommerce is incredibly fast!
India already at this moment in time has over 400 million internet users, which is nearly 17 times the full actual population of the country of Australia guys. And as I write this email this very moment, India is adding 1.25 millions internet users to the web every single week which is nearly 180,000 new unique users of the internet per day! By the end of today, another 180,000 users would've come online and have started searching for things on the web and the same will happening again tomorrow, and the day after and the day after that....ect..... Those figures are just too wild to ignore! Yes of course, all of these users are not mature users as in the west, they will not all buy lots of items on through the web, they may not all spend hours on the web every single day BUT these aspects are rapidly changing and these users are quickly changing their habits and many are starting to replicate our habits here in the west.

Once an Indian picks up a smartphone, they will never go back! I think that investors in the web game tend not to pay too much attention on new emerging markets in the beginning, always instead looking towards .com & the western markets which I believe have now started to slowly saturate in terms of growth. Why buy up in Beverly Hills when there is no further growth happening there? When instead we can look at a new neighbourhood that is growing beyond all expectations and will soon be the new Beverly Hills of the East! The time is now, the buyers market is now! I don’t think investors here should miss out on this chance! Obviously no one here will take this information as gospel, so therefore I request anyone whom finds all of this interesting, then please research into this for yourself and I am sure that you will find that adding some nice .ins into your portfolio NOW rather than later will be a good financial decision. B-)
 
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And what would be your estimate of .com market share there? In other words, what % of businesses would have .com either as primary address or bought defensively for future growth?
While the question was not addressed to me, I might be able to provide some of the answers. In most European countries, the com/ccTLD axis occupies about 80% of the individual country domain name markets. Many of the Western European countries went ccTLD positive years ago. This means that there are more ccTLD domains registered in those markets than .com domains. The Eastern European countries tend to have slower growth in their ccTLDs and even in the gTLDs.

Consequently, the strong brand identity of the local ccTLD means that everyone expects a new business targeting customers in these countries to have a local ccTLD url. The .com TLD has effectively become a legacy TLD in some of these countries as new ccTLD registrations outnumber the new .com registrations.

Will post a table of gTLDs per country later tonight.

Regards...jmcc
 
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Last week newly funded Indian start ups:

PriceMap. Seed $600,000. PriceMap.in
Wealthy. Seed $240,000. Wealthy.in
PinkBlue. Seed $224,000. PinkBlue.in
eSwasthya, Angel Undisclosed. eSwasthya.in
 
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While the question was not addressed to me, I might be able to provide some of the answers. In most European countries, the com/ccTLD axis occupies about 80% of the individual country domain name markets. Many of the Western European countries went ccTLD positive years ago. This means that there are more ccTLD domains registered in those markets than .com domains. The Eastern European countries tend to have slower growth in their ccTLDs and even in the gTLDs.

Consequently, the strong brand identity of the local ccTLD means that everyone expects a new business targeting customers in these countries to have a local ccTLD url. The .com TLD has effectively become a legacy TLD in some of these countries as new ccTLD registrations outnumber the new .com registrations.

Will post a table of gTLDs per country later tonight.

Regards...jmcc
Thanks a lot for this information. This provides excellent data for our discussion :)
 
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Some European(ish) figures.

Total - com - net - org - biz - info - mobi - asia

Germany DE 8,120,903 5,522,117 1,049,640 684,179 186,917 628,156 32,881 17,013
United Kingdom UK 4,169,397 3,265,150 372,676 295,283 77,060 125,761 24,154 9,313
France FR 3,608,794 2,646,008 405,367 313,377 72,042 147,302 17,363 7,335
Spain ES 1,493,753 1,193,316 144,025 100,128 10,693 38,733 6,472 386
Netherlands NL 1,454,053 1,114,687 125,085 96,483 22,963 83,804 8,154 2,877
Italy IT 1,393,851 1,008,594 167,502 111,436 34,124 64,323 6,250 1,622
Switzerland CH 986,378 819,448 72,500 50,005 10,195 30,583 2,078 1,569
Denmark DK 757,635 604,805 73,070 48,056 9,750 18,220 1,846 1,888
Sweden SE 398,312 286,269 42,783 34,172 11,032 18,376 3,380 2,300
Poland PL 338,917 234,328 37,541 26,989 12,276 26,341 938 504
Czech Republic CZ 263,493 180,414 35,886 16,380 6,444 23,240 847 282
Belgium BE 226,812 126,264 72,184 13,357 3,784 9,520 859 844
Austria AT 218,383 150,565 27,480 16,695 4,992 17,852 456 343
Bulgaria BG 196,343 150,865 20,728 13,482 2,392 8,386 307 183
Norway NO 189,753 126,683 29,839 19,927 4,123 8,012 1,025 144
Ireland IE 184,153 156,440 12,996 9,053 1,920 2,765 865 114
Luxembourg LU 157,210 129,813 9,915 6,612 2,594 3,802 1,998 2,476
Finland FI 116,524 72,096 29,123 7,099 1,156 5,434 1,522 94
Lithuania LT 82,471 66,027 6,698 4,394 818 4,095 203 236
Portugal PT 77,971 65,647 7,186 3,762 454 829 74 19
Hungary HU 77,493 59,333 8,344 3,846 1,101 4,642 157 70
Greece GR 74,082 61,177 6,538 3,737 636 1,787 176 31
Slovakia SK 71,138 52,523 8,182 4,591 1,605 3,878 285 74
Cyprus CY 58,137 47,272 5,515 3,162 448 1,554 66 120
Romania RO 57,840 39,958 5,771 3,440 1,188 7,280 127 76
Croatia HR 34,044 26,996 3,926 1,228 618 1,247 26 3
Slovenia SI 28,434 19,552 5,128 2,037 408 1,221 61 27
Estonia EE 25,661 19,411 3,039 1,609 336 1,174 74 18
Serbia RS 24,532 19,564 2,041 1,804 298 793 31 1
Albania AL 11,889 11,384 223 207 27 40 6 2
Latvia LV 11,489 8,883 1,252 655 173 457 35 34
Gibraltar GI 8,226 4,468 1,089 376 85 2,028 68 112
Jersey JE 7,561 5,520 879 596 203 346 13 4
Iceland IS 7,426 5,212 1,118 708 117 242 14 15
Liechtenstein LI 3,332 2,605 301 228 46 128 6 18
Bosnia and Herzegovina BA 3,208 2,265 328 403 41 170 1 0
Moldova MD 2,245 1,789 165 169 30 89 2 1
Malta MT 1,917 1,622 135 92 18 41 5 4
Isle of Man IM 1,915 1,578 186 89 28 31 2 1
Andorra AD 1,713 1,444 110 74 35 48 2 0
Monaco MC 1,370 973 170 141 37 32 13 4
San Marino SM 1,209 910 165 50 35 37 12 0
Macedonia MK 495 402 40 32 10 11 0 0
Guernsey GG 25 19 3 2 0 1 0 0
Former Czechslovakia CS 8 4 1 1 0 2 0 0
Vatican City VA 5 0 0 5 0 0 0 0
Greenland GL 4 4 0 0 0 0 0 0

Regards...jmcc
 
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It depends on the business.
It depends on the business and the development of the internet as a business tool in that market. Global selling tends to be quite common in an early market. But as the market matures, most of the business tends to be inwardly focused (people in the country selling to each other). As the market matures, unless the ccTLD registry is completely incompetent, the ccTLD typically gets more registrations than com/net/org/biz/info and .com becomes a legacy TLD.

Regards...jmcc
 
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Recons you are quite interesting. Your arguments only point to India as an internet underdeveloped country. I generally agree. But your arguments do not prove that there isn't money and profit in .in investing. Your contexts are quite off too. Comparing .in to .au? Because .ins #s are low doesn't mean .in will be forgotten by Indians.you are implying that and itshard to prove that will happen. .in has been slow..yes..but it has picked up and isn't going to slow down.But what's your real,point though? When I look at .In all,I see is Bugatti money. Even 10k invested into .in is explosive..in is not mecca of cctlds, we are not making it more than it is in reality. You see, some have tracked this stuff longer than others so some have fuller stories....just sayin. .ins fundamentals are all in place, I have no idea how someone cannot see that.like for real? Then they don't get it then. But it is good to hear alternative opinions...helps in the long run..
 
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Why would I care to run .in down?

It is already down. Why are you posting search interest in .in if it does not translate into registrations?

Yes, 1.6MM for .us is the closest comparison to 2MM for .in given that not many countries can compare in population with India.

Oh, and the last report for cctlds shows that .in did not make it into top 10 even for growth % from that very low start point.

Here is the top ten for Q4 2015:

China
Estonia
Armenia
Niue
Costa Rica
Latvia
Malaysia
Uzbekistan
Iran
Algeria

To make it into top 10, only 3.9% growth was needed.

China, in the meanwhile, grew by 30%+ from already huge base and overtook .de as the most popular cctld. (by your logic, I have an interest in running .cn into the sky. I hold zero domains in .cn and in .in, don't care if they go up and down).

My only interest is in helping fellow forum members and cautioning them not to make impulse decisions based on irrelevant news or extrapolations.

Now what is your interest?


Sorry my friend, while some of the stats are true.. I disagree with your statement of " .IN is already down."

Exactly a year before .IN numbers are 1.5 million and now its approximately 2.07 million names.. What is the growth rate in a year , its almost 38% in a year time. So its proving .IN as growing extension, this is exactly I am trying to point out.. As investors we should look at the future , not present or past. Only point you keep repeating look at .com and its glorious history , so nothing can change and even India no one change. Friend change is the only constant thing in the world and its already happening in case of .IN . Things are changed pretty much in last one year and the same trend will continue further. I will not bother anyone invest or not invest into .IN Names, just sharing to provide the transparency and for healthy discussion.

Wait for the next CCTLDs report, .IN will be listed as one of the best growing extensions.

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1. .in is a GREAT extension, the problem is its adaption by market in India
2. If I had enough time and less other opportunities, I would look at some great top 100-1000 keywords in English and Hindi (one word singular) to invest.
3. LLL.in is a good bet, but not at current reseller prices.
4. LLLL.in you'll need to hold for 5-10 years before you see any reasonable amount of offers from end users. It is money better invested elsewhere, in my opinion.

That is it. Don't have any agenda in regards to .in, and again, don't have anything to lose/gain from any changes to .in.

Don't have any Indian end users for my .coms/orgs etc to bother if they'd prefer .in now.

My only interaction with India is via getting web projects developed there.
 
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1. .in is a GREAT extension, the problem is its adaption by market in India
2. If I had enough time and less other opportunities, I would look at some great top 100-1000 keywords in English and Hindi (one word singular) to invest.
3. LLL.in is a good bet, but not at current reseller prices.
4. LLLL.in you'll need to hold for 5-10 years before you see any reasonable amount of offers from end users. It is money better invested elsewhere, in my opinion.

That is it. Don't have any agenda in regards to .in, and again, don't have anything to lose/gain from any changes to .in.

Don't have any Indian end users for my .coms/orgs etc to bother if they'd prefer .in now.

My only interaction with India is via getting web projects developed there.
Sure friend, i am not suspecting or calling you have agenda. A healthy discussion is only possible, when people with different opinion discussing about the same. I fully appreciate and acknowledge your reasons of sharing your knowledge.

I have been investing .IN from 8 years and into .COMs for 10 years. I do have 4l.com names, and few nice Geo names of India too including few statename .coms too. At the same time i do have lot of .IN names too.

I personally noticed .IN Investments are very attractive and I can see i have multiplied my revenues by few times. I have suggested many members on namepros to invest when lll.in are trading around 60 USD.
I still believe lll.in prices are under valued compare to other extensions.

Even going by your theory , lll.com avg price for even lower quality ones is around 20K at reseller level, if for a end user perhaps it could be easily 50k USD. now 1% 50K is 500 USD . At present LLL.in are available at 350 USD each for resellers and to end users perhaps around 800 USD to 1000 USD for lower ones. I am taking about avg prices. so on Avg lll.in prices are less 2% of the lll.com prices.

Until unless lll.com prices crash and go down a lot , LLL.in prices will not impact as LLL.com prices are going up its certainly benefit LLL.in investors too.. I sincerely believe the LLL.in should at least worth between 7 to 9% of the LLL.com names. Just my thought process.
 
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"India is the largest DEMOCRACY in the world,"

India Remains One Of The Most Corrupt Countries In The World

http://www.forbes.com/sites/ronakde...-corrupt-countries-in-the-world/#4240bfe025d8


DEMOCRACY = CORUPTION

First off, you are sensationalizing corruption in India. To see where India ranks actually, please see:

http://www.transparency.org/cpi2015#results-table

India is ranked out of 76 out of 168 countries. That is mid-way, how can it be MOST corrupt ?

For a population of 1.2B+ folks, having a rank mid-way isn't bad. Few points about corruption:
  1. US with all the resources & tech is still ranked 16th.
  2. China is ranked worse than India. And last I checked China was NOT a democracy.
  3. India is huge, not only in terms of population, but in terms of diversity in language, religion and practices. That being said, changing any parameter takes time, but its headed in the right direction.


The problem for businesses in India is the mess with legislation across the states and nationwide, corruption, lack of infrastructure (third of country does not have electricity).

:sigh: again short of facts, but huge sense of sensationalism. India has 650K villages out of which 18K+ were lacking electricity. Please see: http://garv.gov.in/dashboard

18K/650K = ~3% , So you added an extra 3 to make it 33% just to run India down. Good job for trying.

Another point, if you see the website, http://garv.gov.in/dashboard , 38% of the un-electrified villages are already electrified. The goal is to electrify all the remaining by end of 2018.

In short, it is not business friendly and hence the reason its per capita is 1/5 of China's. It might grow slightly better because of starting very low, but that might as well come to screeching halt.

Any number / study / paper to back your claim?

Indian government does not have tools and means China has to overcome any issues, change direction, adapt.

Any facts to back your claim?

While people outsource to India for some services (calls, accounting etc.), they don't take there any production. Even Bangladesh gets more of western production.

:sigh: Please tell me which index are you using to claim that production is higher in Bangladesh than India?

I know its a lot of work to get correct numbers and facts right, the least we can hope is you make an effort.
 
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Sorry my friend, while some of the stats are true.. I disagree with your statement of " .IN is already down."

Exactly a year before .IN numbers are 1.5 million and now its approximately 2.07 million names.. What is the growth rate in a year , its almost 38% in a year time. So its proving .IN as growing extension, this is exactly I am trying to point out.. As investors we should look at the future , not present or past. Only point you keep repeating look at .com and its glorious history , so nothing can change and even India no one change. Friend change is the only constant thing in the world and its already happening in case of .IN . Things are changed pretty much in last one year and the same trend will continue further. I will not bother anyone invest or not invest into .IN Names, just sharing to provide the transparency and for healthy discussion.

Wait for the next CCTLDs report, .IN will be listed as one of the best growing extensions.

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Good future for .BR and .IN because economy is stronger for both the countries and registrations are still low.
 
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I agree most of the positives and negatives .. all are well said.



Bottomline question - how many businesses have primary domain as .in/.cn vs how many are using .com? I think its still about if i dont get a .com, i will work with cctld until i get .com and if .com is too expensive to acquire let me think of a different name altogether.
 
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Bottomline question - how many businesses have primary domain as .in/.cn vs how many are using .com?
I'd say 40%+ today and this will only change in favour of the ccTLD.

I think its still about if i dont get a .com, i will work with cctld until i get .com and if .com is too expensive to acquire let me think of a different name altogether.
What if the .com is unattainable, at any price, or even if it is, the buyer doesn't have that budget, the ccTLD becomes a viable alternative.

Choosing another name is ok if you're a startup, even then it's tough sometimes because of the business you're doing. But generics / EMDs are what I think will continue to appreciate because of latent demand.
 
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I agree most of the positives and negatives .. all are well said.



Bottomline question - how many businesses have primary domain as .in/.cn vs how many are using .com? I think its still about if i dont get a .com, i will work with cctld until i get .com and if .com is too expensive to acquire let me think of a different name altogether.

American mentality. The rest of the world doesn't think this way.
 
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Bottomline question - how many businesses have primary domain as .in/.cn vs how many are using .com?
That would require a full ccTLD web survey and analysis. However the Indian domain name market is still a relatively new market. This means that the trends that would be expected in a mature market, (local ccTLD activity being greater than .com/gTLD activity), have yet to happen.

I think its still about if i dont get a .com, i will work with cctld until i get .com and if .com is too expensive to acquire let me think of a different name altogether.
Domain markets generally start off with .com and the people using them are selling to customers outside the country. As the market develops, the local ccTLD begins to become important but .com still dominates. When the market matures, there is a switch from .com to the local ccTLD as selling to people within the country becomes the dominant form of business. That's when the public gets the idea that a new website targeting people in the country should have a .ccTLD domain name. When that happens, the .com domain count in the country begins to slow and often the growth in the ccTLD will be greater than that of .com domain names in that country.

The other aspect that a lot of domainers miss about ccTLDs is that registration activity is about specifics (brands/business names/geos) rather than generics. The ccTLDs have their own geography.

Regards...jmcc
 
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That would require a full ccTLD web survey and analysis. However the Indian domain name market is still a relatively new market. This means that the trends that would be expected in a mature market, (local ccTLD activity being greater than .com/gTLD activity), have yet to happen.

Domain markets generally start off with .com and the people using them are selling to customers outside the country. As the market develops, the local ccTLD begins to become important but .com still dominates. When the market matures, there is a switch from .com to the local ccTLD as selling to people within the country becomes the dominant form of business. That's when the public gets the idea that a new website targeting people in the country should have a .ccTLD domain name. When that happens, the .com domain count in the country begins to slow and often the growth in the ccTLD will be greater than that of .com domain names in that country.

The other aspect that a lot of domainers miss about ccTLDs is that registration activity is about specifics (brands/business names/geos) rather than generics. The ccTLDs have their own geography.

Regards...jmcc
rightly said..
 
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GOVERNMENT = CORRUPTION

Power = CORRUPTION

ABSOLUTE POWER corrupts absolutely
Any other constructive idea to share with the .in community?
 
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GOVERNMENT = CORRUPTION

Power = CORRUPTION

ABSOLUTE POWER corrupts absolutely
Personally, i think this has nothing to do with the subject... maybe we can stay on topic and be productive, while avoiding going into politics..."corrupts absolutely" - almost funny... there are plenty of other powers out there, which are much more corrupt, but unrelated to domain business.
 
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Agree with the above comment. Lets not go down the route of politics or political philosophy on this thread and lets keep the discussions related to the growth of .IN and current happenings with .IN domaining.
 
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The obvious answer is because India is growing economically, particularly in the technology field too.
 
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I like .in extension. Have been looking into it, as part of our business for some time now. My concern is - actual people who speak English as their first language and or fluently. In fact wiki says there are a lot of people who know English, but only 200,000 or so speak natively, meaning, I assume - fluently.
Can someone from India confirm this. Are street signs duplicated in English? Does cities have advertisements in English? Do people actually use English in their daily lifes; Schools, colleges, etc
From outside, it's really hard to actually figure out how much of a value .in (english words really is)

In other words, let;s take other popular extensions within their own region. .ru, for example. Well, it's a popular extension within russia and ex-soviet block countries. However, I am fairly sure it's not the english words with this extension which are trading well on the market. It is Russian words, in both Russian and English letters, which are doing well.

And yes, a lot of people study english as their second language in Russia. Wiki does not report it correctly. Not as much as in India, of course, but my point is - there is no or very limited market there for english words and never will be.

Let's hope .in is much better - can someone who speaks the language and from the region answer this?

Thanks,
Alex
 
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In fact wiki says there are a lot of people who know English, but only 200,000 or so speak natively, meaning, I assume - fluently.
its a just a city population
 
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My concern is - actual people who speak English as their first language and or fluently. In fact wiki says there are a lot of people who know English, but only 200,000 or so speak natively, meaning, I assume - fluently.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_English-speaking_population

More English speakers than in UK, Canada or Australia, combined! And even this figure seems low based on what I see around me everywhere.

The local language and English are the most common combination of languages across India. Fluency levels might differ between individuals and differing educational backgrounds.
 
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