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јр.com – I was a victim!

Located in Warnings and Alerts, started by wot, Feb 26, 2012

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  1. Tippy

    Tippy Top Member VIP ★★★★★★★★★★

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    It says very clearly that its an IDN domain, if the bidders are too dumb to inform themselves I have no pitty for them.
     
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  2. eurorealtor

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    I would like to know, how many IDN Sedo buyers actually knew they were bidding on IDN, lately. The last mentioned jackpot.com is a little visible the letters "K" and "T" doesnt match to small letter in the middle and in the end, but jp.com / app.com / ass.com was totally confusing.

    I have quiet few IDNs by Czech language and having problem to list them properly on my website, because I build my site by Blue Voda and there is no possible to use Czech language letters like č, ř, ž, ý, á, í, é, so the only way is put a sign "IDN" and enter a punycode in the listing detail.
     
  3. Tippy

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    Not confusing at all...

    "Important Notice:
    This is an Internationalized Domain (IDN). Technically the domain is XN--N1A9B.COM."

    If you cant see that or bother to question it you deserve to get burnt.
     
  4. Robin

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    I think people get excited when they see a short nice name and they bid for them blindly specially newbies.
     
  5. DU

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    And so we should let people and platforms take advantage of that?
     
  6. DU

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    What if you're Japanese? And / or new to IDN? You think that's enough?
     
  7. Robin

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    No we should not. That's why we have a forum called NP to spread awareness. Its always a good practice to research before making any investment specially if your a newbie.
     
  8. Tippy

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    If your new to IDN yes its enough, if you read the warning and dont bother to look into it well too bad.

    If your Japanese and cant read/understand english well you shouldnt be buying stuff from a site you cant even understand or at least get it translated to know wth you are buying.
     
  9. the_poet

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    The next scam on Sedo is about to occur:

    Code:
    ѕо.com	3h 39m	1,550 USD
    оі.com	3h 41m	1,000 USD
     
  10. johname

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    Here how the so auction looks, there an icon and a warning. Red letters would help.

    [​IMG]
     
  11. JB Lions

    JB Lions Top Contributor VIP ★★★★★★★★★★

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    When you invest/buy domains, you need to do your homework. There are warnings that these are IDNs, red color or highlighted would help even more but again, there are warnings and people need to read and a domain going for those prices are another clue. I guess they'll learn.
     
  12. mis_chiff

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    Well that looks pretty clear to me...

    it has it right at the top - so .com [IDN] is on Auction:

    and an: Important Notice, in the body.

    Is that new or that is current?
     
  13. 4pm

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    that killed me more than anything else in all this scam about IDN names..

    i dont get it.. if they opened account on Sedo name that would not force the buyer to complete anything - who cares about sedo opening accounts and transferring their stuff into them? "we opened an account for you, trasferred qwerty.zz there, now take it and pay tomorrow"?

    ..if they opened account on the buyer's name.. well, how could it be possible at all? isnt it illegal? i mean being unclear about IDN on the auction page is not illegal but kind of on the fence and all, and opening account on behalf of unaware person is a different story.. can someone please make it clear..
     
  14. DU

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    The domain is registered at MadDogDomains.

    Likely what is going on is that the scumbag piece of $hit seller transferred the name to a Sedo account at Maddogdomains as part of escrow.

    Sedo wants to transfer to the poor buyers account.

    That's what I get out of it.
     
  15. wot

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    From what the buyer told me that is correct.

    He had already paid and was trying to get Sedo to look at the deal in more depth because of his error etc but Sedo just pushed the name anyway and said that's that.

    At that point he was not even aware that a likely "shill bid" had helped to draw him in.

    If Sedo let this and similar pass without investigation then I really don't know what to say. They had many many warnings of what was,and is,still going on.

    And for those who say the "buyer' deserved it,shame on you!
     
  16. 4pm

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    cant the buyer reject the push and file something somewhere against Sedo? consumer protection laws not working in this case? ..well, thats rhetorical
     
  17. DU

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    The contract is between buyer and seller and has been signed and agreed. Buyer has already paid Sedo.

    I'm not sure what happens if they dispute payment with paypal - I'm not sure that paypal would care.


    Interestingly enough, apparently SEDO doesn't understand anything about IDN and reports the sale as JP.com in their RSS feed and confuses everyone.

    http://www.dotweekly.com/sedo-reporting-jp-com-sold-for-1100/

    Last post for me on this subject .. it's clear that Sedo posts a warning. It's clear that the buyers are still getting screwed.
     
  18. Kate

    Kate Domainosaurus Rex VIP ★★★★★★★★★★

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    Answer:
    Also noteworthy:
    https://sedo.com/us/about-us/policies/terms-of-use/?tracked=&partnerid=&language=us
     
  19. vc

    vc Established Member

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    I just learnt yesterday that sedo and 1&1 are one and the same!
     
  20. wot

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    I just got a response from Sedo on my blog justifying their actions,ignoring references to shill bidding on the phishing domains.

    What they have done is posted a link to another phishing domain currently on auction- incredible!
     
  21. tonecas

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    curiously, арр.com still hasn't change hands.

    same thing with аррѕ.com

    regards,
    tonecas
     
  22. wot

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    The latest ones from our Russian and a repeat appearance are on the blog.
     
  23. freedom30

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    ...sedo is relaxed as a monopoly that their business ethic appears now to be "we doesn't need the customer...the customer needs us"

    Until that time that there are bonafide competitors to sedo, that will remain the attitude, I'm afraid...
     
  24. wot

    wot Top Contributor VIP ★★★★★★★★★★

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    I guess the first "buyer" realised what he/she was getting and pulled out so Sedo will have banned a potential buyer.

    Never mind, Sedo allowed it to go back on auction and drew in 9 bidders this time!

    Bidding History:
    арр.com

    Winning Bid:
    6,255 USD

    Reserve met!

    Winning Bidder:

    Bidder 4

    Auction ended:

    Mar/12/12 09:32 AM CET
     
  25. tonecas

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    wot, please put the link for the auction history if you have that

    regards,
    tonecas
     

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