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Proof that Hand Reg is NOT dead!

Labeled as opinion in Domain Industry News started by smartwebby, Aug 17, 2018.

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  1. Jv1999

    Jv1999 New Adventures: Squire of the Exo-Tower VIP

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    Uhm. Why is this thread so troll.

    It's like you're saying no one hand reggaes anymore.. . . . . .

    It's not like blockchain domains existed 20 years ago or smth.
     
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  2. smartwebby

    smartwebby Smart Brand Names VIP ★★★★★★★★★★

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    Guys my post is mainly for motivating new domainers who are picking up a lot of trash names and wasting their hard earned money. If you haven't yet noticed, there IS a prevailing undercurrent that good .COMs aren't available anymore. Domaining is an acquired skill especially in hand regs, and I was just trying to show newbies that there is still a lot of good domains in .COM... these aren't the first ones I have uncovered in the past few years. I totally agree with @Kate "Sometimes I am surprised at all that is registered, but also what isn't." Pros who are in contact with newbies and are noticing the registration trends will pick up on the point of this post. :)

    Fantastic! Congrats!! Have you shared the name already with namepros?? :) I am sure many other pros are doing this pretty successfully.

    Interesting how many look at domaining as just about selling domains :greedy::greedy::greedy:. :xf.grin::xf.grin::xf.grin:
    Valuation and significance cannot be argued as there are so many POVs. I rest my case. :xf.wink:
     
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  3. efizi

    efizi Established Member

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    Not all domains sell immediately. Even some expired domains had been hand regged and unused for years, some almost two decades. So why look down on a good handreg?

    The belief that hand reg is dead will only end up being a veil in one's mind that hinders one from seeing that there there still lies remnants of hand-reg pearls to be discovered on the seashore of domains. I personally believe not all good hand regs have been taken.

    Just hand regged the following in the last 48hrs:

    notablecar
    notablecars
    couriergeek
    licensestudio
    haulagehero
    freightvilla

    These are all in King and are definitely worth some thousands, so for me there are still some gems in hand reg.
     
  4. frank-germany

    frank-germany F1lter.com xpired domain search engine Gold Account VIP

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    usually my handregs sell after 5 to 12 years
    I have 99% handregs
     
  5. maxjohan

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    Define your market/industry with 2liners. I don't see a lot of mollah flying around in this field. Unless you create a website and create your own brand. But you are right about EMD and checking for search volume.
     
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  6. alcy

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    a name's worth is set when buyer's found, til then its glory to naught is only bound.

    @smartwebby is this a good 2liner? ;)
     
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  7. alcy

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    what % of yer regs do u keep for 5 to 12 years? i assume its not 100%
     
  8. frank-germany

    frank-germany F1lter.com xpired domain search engine Gold Account VIP

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    of course not

    my understanding
    and my vision has changed over the years

    a good domain is a domain an enduser might buy
    to build a business around it
    those are long time keepers
    until an enduser shows up
    who shares the vision

    I had regged a lot of domains for parking
    those are mostly drops by now
     
  9. alcy

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    well your vision is correct..and the art of domaining ia basically to be able to predict and anticipate such names as u describe.. its not easy art at all..and takes long time... but...at least this knowledge is not unattainable
     
  10. MediaCode

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    VeriSign reported 135.6 million .com names registered as of July 31, 2018. There are 64 characters maximum in a .com domain name and each character can take on one of 24 alpha or 10 numeric characters or the hyphen. Taking into consideration all of the permutations possible, that's many billions of domain names in .com still available for registration in August 2018 netting out the 135.6 million already registered.

    Regardless of relatively high search volumes, it is no surprise that 2liner.com and 2liners.com were both still available for hand registration in August 2018 -- the marketability of these two particular domain names is highly limited. Few if any corporate end users would want to buy them. If that were true, either name would likely have already been in the hands of a speculator or a corporate end user. It is the marketability of a domain name and not keyword search volumes that matter most in predicting whether a domain name will be – or should be – hand registered in expectation of a return on investment.

    Here are two alternative "liners" .com domain names that I found in the last five minutes that I think are far more marketable to corporate end users:

    SUVBedLiners.com
    SprayOnCargoLiners.com

    These two names have commercial meaning, as indicated by the paid search ads to be found when conducting a search on the keywords at Google.com. These are not great domain names like Liners.com, SprayOn.com, Cargo.com, or even BedLiners.com, but they are still more marketable to corporate end users than 2liner.com or 2liners.com because they at least have some demonstrable commercial meaning that make them more marketable to corporate end users. And, they are available right now!
     
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  11. DeliDomains

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    I am an investor, as any investor I look at making money from domaining, My valuation depends on how much and how quickly I get returns on my investments.

    In addition, for a newbie it is better to buy domains in the aftermarket and flip them as the domains already have a value to them, Just because they are hand reg's available advising a newbie on hand registering would send him into a point of no return.
     
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  12. .X.

    .X. NameFeature.com Gold Account VIP ★★★★★★★★★★

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    my average hold time is 2 years, Then my hand regges have matured and i begin getting offers that i like on them, I sell only around 1/8 , that being my choice, I get a lot of offers on them via Sedo, Once i have gotten a minimum of 25 offers on them via Sedo. I start looking at rather i want to sell them or not. sometimes after the next offer, if i want to sell it, i accept sending it to auction at Sedo, where the majority of the time, at least 5 to 7 of those past 25 offers i received join in the auction and i get a decent price for the domain name.

    I don't sell a whole lot though, selling or flipping is not my niche, development and resale of the development is. I have many-many names that i wont sale unless i was to get an offer i just can't refuse.

    I have 3 portfolios of domain names, One named "Yesteryear" all hand reg names that date back to to 2004, my second one is named "Mid Term" hand regges i have from 2008 to 2015, and "LatestGreatest" Hand regges i have from 2016 to current. with a very small exception, They are all hand regges.

    Although my renewal fees are astronomical , Just like folks have a 401K for retirement, I have the equivalent of a 401k for my domain names, I put money into every month for renewal fees.

    It is the love for domaining that keeps me in the industry. The day i stop loving it, i will sell out all of my inventory or liquidate it. until then, Happy Domaining!
     
  13. DeliDomains

    DeliDomains Oswin

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    I agree with you, hand regging a new technology, or a new trend and having the resources to hold for a long run is acceptable. but you need to know the future value and the hold time frame before you make the purchase.
     
  14. .X.

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    Agreed, and great point.
     
  15. topdom

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    From my experience so far:

    Handreg drop domains can sell, even within months, to endusers, but with low probability.

    Handreg invented domains can be bought by other professional investors after being dropped.

    Noncoms sell faster, because you are looking for better keywords.


    Contacting potential buyers doesn't work, or maybe it does, but it is difficult to know this.
    This is not a rule, Just my limited experience.
     
  16. Jv1999

    Jv1999 New Adventures: Squire of the Exo-Tower VIP

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    These are not so good tbh....

    so i give u free name to make up for it: ThinkEssence////com is availabe. I was planning on getting it and putting it on brandpa/bb, but.... you should go for it.
     
  17. .X.

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    They have been damn good for me , For 19 years now. You sure you know exactly what you are talking about here?

    FYI. I hand registered over 300 4L.coms. I still have 212 of them. they had never been registered when i regged them, would you consider those not to be so good tbh??
     
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  18. Jv1999

    Jv1999 New Adventures: Squire of the Exo-Tower VIP

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    I wasn't talking to you though.
     
  19. .X.

    .X. NameFeature.com Gold Account VIP ★★★★★★★★★★

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    You didn't answer my question though??

    And you called Anita a Troll, she started a good thread here.
     
  20. Jv1999

    Jv1999 New Adventures: Squire of the Exo-Tower VIP

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    I wasn't discussing any of your domains, so I have no question to answer... I was talking about efizi's domains. I'm not sure why you butted in @ me but.

    Anita's thread's title implied that hand reggae are dead and aren't a thing. Kinda like no one does it and that it doesn't work.

    She explained herself, and I get it. It's just that she still made it look the way it did.

    It's like if I started a thread saying: "Forum communities are not dead!"
     
  21. Walter Eason

    Walter Eason Established Member

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    No doubt.Handreg can never be dead. All domain names at some point was handreg.

    Thanks for the article.
     
  22. smartwebby

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    Lighten up guys! :xf.love:

    Pros reading this thread be like, "meh, that ain't nothin', I pick up gems all the time!!" :xf.cool:
     
  23. Coinking

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    One day i am trying to hand reg and i am mixing many words to make a domain for registration than which also include pokerwallets.com but i decided i will register this domain after 3 weeks and today i type a domain pokerwallets.com for registration than domain already registered and now a established site..
     
  24. maxjohan

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    I am lightened up. (y)

    You made the correct moves, as you should always check search volume for keywords and then register an EMD domain name ONLY if you feel there is enough search volume, along with decent CPC. That's were majority of newbies make mistakes, as they instead register brandables... and I do not speak of 5L-6L but of names like ThickCars.com. They add a name they think sound good, before or after a product or service. Selling a name like ThickCars is totally random unlike grabbing an EMD domain name with proven search volume.
     
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  25. Jv1999

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    It's not thick btw, it's Thicc. ThiccCars might sail :D haha
     

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