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POLL: $150,000 LAST NAME APPRAISAL AT NAMEWORTH.COM? - Kudaibergen.com

Labeled as domain in Domain Appraisal, started by sn952, Oct 5, 2019

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Worth $150,000?

Poll closed May 5, 2020.
  1. + or - 10%

    9.4%
  2. + or -50%

    3.1%
  3. + or - 90%

    28.1%
  4. Reg. Fee (if that)

    59.4%
Total: 32 vote(s)
  1. Tin Nguyen

    Tin Nguyen Microsoft Azure Engineer VIP

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    Kudaibergen.com - WTF? Your thoughts via poll and discussion please. @NameBuyer.com

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  2. hawkeye

    hawkeye Top Member PRO VIP ★★★★★★★★★★

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    Not suggesting you did, but anyone who 'pays' for an appraisal, should also look into that bridge that's for sale in Brooklyn.
     
  3. YourBestTrader

    YourBestTrader Top Contributor VIP

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  4. Bob Hawkes

    Bob Hawkes Top Member NameTalent VIP Gold Account Trusted Blogger

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    I have no idea how to value the name of a famous person. The fact that his fame although worldwide is concentrated in Kazakhstan, Russia and China makes it more difficult. The issue is if he wanted his name, there is only one domain that fits.

    He sounds like an amazing young man who contributes regularly and meaningfully to charitable causes.
    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dimash_Kudaibergen

    Bob

    I had a look at some other high priced famous last names Branson sold for $1.6 million
     
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  5. Tin Nguyen

    Tin Nguyen Microsoft Azure Engineer VIP

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    Thanks @Bob Hawkes ! Dimash Kudaibergen is known as one of greatest vocalists of our time. He appeared on a Chinese competition show in 2017 and his first song "S.O.S." (in French) received over 1 billion views in China. He is now a superstar in Asia and will be performing in the U.S. for the first time in December. (NYC)
     
  6. Bob Hawkes

    Bob Hawkes Top Member NameTalent VIP Gold Account Trusted Blogger

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    Thanks for the additional information - I am an old man with poor hearing not too up to date with current music!

    I am surprised the name is only registered in two extensions (.com and .org). This thread may result in more.

    I had never looked at a person's name on NameWorth. The valuation must be strongly impacted by all the download traffic and social media on term.

    Of course NameWorth give 6 values and the high one corresponds to an end user with immediate plans for the domain. If a rich and famous person wants their last name in .com, a domain name can go for a lot. I wouldn't expect the NameWorth estimate though!

    Bob
     
  7. YourBestTrader

    YourBestTrader Top Contributor VIP

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    Branson in this case is not a last name... Although if it was.. Richard Branson sure could afford that price as he's a billionaire. Also a really funny guy if you get the opportunity to hang out with him.

    In this case though, branson.com refers to a place: Branson, Missouri
     
  8. Tin Nguyen

    Tin Nguyen Microsoft Azure Engineer VIP

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    More entertainment value:

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  9. Bob Hawkes

    Bob Hawkes Top Member NameTalent VIP Gold Account Trusted Blogger

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    Thanks for correction - I should have checked site.
    I had just found it using the category:niche:last names at NameBio and assumed it must be Richard Branson and therefore a comparator.
    Wow a lot to pay for a name on attractions in a place in Missouri!
    Bob
     
  10. Tin Nguyen

    Tin Nguyen Microsoft Azure Engineer VIP

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    And last but not least, this one.....although crazy high appraisal, it really is a decent name don't you agree?

    5 L, "AI", triple-middle "I"s. The last two letters could be interpreted as IP, Internet Protocol. What are your thoughts on this one? This will probably go to Sedo within the week.

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  11. bmugford

    bmugford www.DataCube.com PRO VIP ICA Member ★★★★★★★★★★

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    You should quit trusting automated appraisals. Obviously those appraised values are nonsense.

    Brad
     
  12. bmugford

    bmugford www.DataCube.com PRO VIP ICA Member ★★★★★★★★★★

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    Branson is like the Las Vegas (without gambling) of the Midwest.
    There is a massive entertainment and travel industry there.

    I have sold a couple Branson domains for 5 figures.

    Brad
     
  13. Tin Nguyen

    Tin Nguyen Microsoft Azure Engineer VIP

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    @bmugford, Lol agreed! That's why I prefaced with "Entertainment Value" :)
     
  14. Mister Funsky

    Mister Funsky Top Contributor VIP

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    I have found the nameworth estimates much more realistic than godaddy or estibot when looking at overall numbers based on 1000+ domains. There are anomalies and inaccuracies in all three. All of them should be taken with a grain of salt unless there is a group consensus or supporting data can be shown. Each one has its own method of calculation (daddy seems to use VERY dated info in many cases and its estimates can be way too low). Maybe take all three estimates, add them together and divide by three for a more accurate AUTOMATED appraisal.
     
  15. The Durfer

    The Durfer Top Contributor VIP Gold Account

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    what I like about nameworth.com is they give you 6 categorical prices from liquidation level all the way to retail level if you look further down the page then the appraised price. kudos..
     
  16. tracey sclater

    tracey sclater Established Member

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    I was entertained with their appraisals on 3 of my names
    ToSkip 125,000
    CloneNode 150,000
    Hotade 94,500 .
    Cheers.
     
  17. ThatNameGuy

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    Mister Funsky...like you I too like the Nameworth estimates better than GD, and I sometimes use FreeValuator.com that I like better than Estibot/Epik who I find the most unreliable. I have a few names some might think are pretty decent that Nameworth values from 14.5k to 45K...Wahoo! On another note, playing the 9Time™ game yesterday in a tournament called the "Grudge" match (girls against the guys) I shot an 88 using just three clubs, my 21 degree hybrid, my eight iron and my putter (note, I have a 24 handicap established when I was carrying 14 clubs) While it sounds crazy, I may really be revolutionizing golf, or at least developing golfs stepchild.:xf.wink: Anyway, thanks for your input, and while I own the domain Lifetime9.com, yours will be the first membership we'll be giving away.

    Thanks again(y)
     
  18. NameBuyer.com

    NameBuyer.com Top Member PRO VIP Gold Account ★★★★★★★★★★

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    Yeah, these are obviously off. Currently if you put in good or great English-based domains into the system, it is fairly accurate. None of the names listed would count as good or great English-based domains.

    I'll give you a spoiler alert. If you enter the following it likely will not give you an accurate value:
    • Non-English Dictionary Words
    • Partial Phrases
    • City Names in Developing Countries
    • Programming Syntax/Terms or other popular non-commercial terms
    I don't buy these type of names, so I only see them when others try to put them in the system.

    These are part of the next release that I was trying to put off until December because I'm in the middle launching a separate but related site. But there's been an uptick of people publicly posting errors (typically from 1 of the 4 categories above) on NamePros, so I'll likely release a mini-release before next week to quell the haters that seem to be attracted to these type of posts.

    Rather than posting errors, if anyone using the service has a question, you can send me a quick support message, and I'll usually respond within a day with some insight. Plus that will help me identify issues.

    I don't mind the negative feedback from those that like to be negative on these threads. Personally I've sold 1 domain at $15k, 2 at $7.4k, 1 at $4.4k, and 1 at $2.4k in the last 83 days, raising my average domain sale from about $1.6k to $7.3k, so feel free to continue. All of my price increases on 1/3 of my 7,000+ domains were based on NameWorth estimates. If those that are leaving negative comments in this thread have a better method they've used to increase their average sale price by 4.5 times their old amount, I'll be waiting to hear.

    The tool will get more accurate for the outliers, but if you avoid 4 types of domains above (which you should be anyway), you'll usually get pretty accurate results as-is.

    So, in about a week, the majority of these errors will be gone.
     
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  19. mayazir

    mayazir VirtualNameMarket.com VIP

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    0 value
    Too difficult the name
    Dimash.com could worth
     
  20. Mister Funsky

    Mister Funsky Top Contributor VIP

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    Just curious as to how you list your names...there are a few threads here whether to put a 'bin', 'bin with make offer' or just 'make offer' on names. I have been a fan of 'bin with make offer' in the past but think I may move to 'make offer' only...would you share your method on the last sales you made?
     
  21. OnlineDomainShop

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    I have plenty of 100k+ each day from expired lists which i never reg for even 5.99$ , One example of available name is itwere.com expired 2-3 days ago ,,, NameWorth is good tool but sometime it makes no sense so don't rely on it...

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  22. ahmed gamil

    ahmed gamil Fekra-vb.Com

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    What about this Connut French mean know, savoir , etc
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  23. NameBuyer.com

    NameBuyer.com Top Member PRO VIP Gold Account ★★★★★★★★★★

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    All is fixed. Rather than making a quick fix, as first intended, we spent a couple months extra and finished the full NameWorth Version 2.0 release. This has been our biggest version upgrade to date and sets us up nicely for our next projects.

    This gets rid of nearly all anomalies and makes huge improvements on estimating top domain sales.

    As you can see in the spreadsheet below, for top domain sales, it has improved the accuracy of pricing on 77.4% of top domain sales, and is now in-the-ballpark between 87.1%-96.77% on these domains, depending on which number/valuation you compare it against.

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    In addition, we've also introduced a NameWorth Demand Rating. This gauges the current demand for a particular domain, so you can easily see, at a glance, how much possible demand there is for your domain without wasting time with research. In addition to saving you time, if there is no demand, it might save you from making a bad purchase.

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    From there, we took it a step further and now include the extensions (shown above). We also now show Active Websites with similar naming (shown below), in addition to registered domains that have similar naming (shown below).

    Enjoy, and wishing you all increased success in this New Year!

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  24. .X.

    .X. In God I Trust VIP ★★★★★★★★★★

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    Are you using algorithm simply from prior domain name sales?? I took the list you have reappraised vs before your 2.0 upgrade and the metrics just aren't there to value those names at your appraisals, i will see if i can sign up with your service and get a real feel for your product and run it through some deep process.

    By no means am i insinuating, saying or otherwise that the product is not a good or great product, i am just not acclimated with the NameWorth product at this time, spending a little time with it will allow me to to understand the product and its validity for me.

    I think all these products, Estibot, DomainIndex, Godaddy APP , each one serves a different purpose in understanding why a name might be able to sell X amount of dollars and perhaps allows to be able to put a BIN on a domain name that is reasonable and within a range of being able to justify pricing to the consumer through negotiations and ect.
     
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  25. .X.

    .X. In God I Trust VIP ★★★★★★★★★★

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    I selected -90% , Prolly take a little more off as well, If you tried to sell the name here at NP , you would get $100 for it lol, i know, i know, end user would probably up the ante to a max $1,100 to $1,500 bones

    LOW Serp
    Very Low Search broad
    Hardly any search exact =16

    It would cost to get traffic to the name, I wanna play shark tank for one sec, and for that reason, I am Out!!! LOL
     
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