People who do not follow Domains Wanted rules should be suspended

[carltonleon]

Names Wanted Section

Rant about to start .....

If anybody starts a thread in the Names Wanted Thread , can I Please,Please, appeal to you to keep the thread updated.

It is so annoying to have a thread with, for example, 30 replies running for 3 or 4 days, and not one reply from the person who started the thread.

It is a simple courtesy to keep the thread updated so as members will know if you are still looking or not.

Never forget that being able to post in the Names Wanted section is a priveledge not a right.

YOU are looking for something, not us.
YOU are asking us to provide YOU with domains that YOU might be interested in.
The least that YOU could do is have the courtesy to keep YOUR thread updated.

I think that it shows the Utmost Disrespect to fellow members not to keep them updated and, not to mention, wastes members time, which is extremely valuable.

Just while I am on the subject, can WE read the threads properly and if someone posts that they are not looking anymore , not to continue posting Domain names....

Sorry Rant Over ......

 

[linker]

amen

 

[mojojo]

well said!

 

[The Engineer]

I agree. I often wonder whether these are genuine requests, or perhaps they are just testing the market.

 

[faisj]

I agree

 

[Jo]

Well said!

And if requesting PM's please at least reply and say NO THANKS or post in the thread that you've read PM's and are not interested.

I agree. I often wonder whether these are genuine requests, or perhaps they are just testing the market.

This is why I don't usually bother replying on the WANTED thread TO people who are newly regged and with O trader ratings. I check to see when the thread was opened, how many posts and how they've dealt with names offered so far.

 

[3par]

Definately agree!

And just curious anybody sold their names there? Or do you have the estimate as how many replies you sent for one sale you made?

Cheers.

 

[Devil_Dog]

Concur 100%.

Cracks me up also when someone says "I have 1 million budgeted, send me your best names! then you go ahead and send your best names(3 letter .coms, and nets) at a modest price(low/mid x,xxx) and they respond with "too much".

Just makes you think, they don't have a mil available, but more like $100.

 

[equity78]

Agree only thing worst id no budget or some say I will not tell you, just wastes people time. I agree Carlton it is a privilege I think you should have to pay 100 np$ to list in DOmains wanted then People know the person is serious and looking for real. Other posts that are great are "Looking for traffic domains that make money Budget xx to Low xxx" OR I will buy LLL.com $1200. Sometimes it should be called the forum comics

 

[Grrilla]

Sometimes it should be called the forum comics

:lol:
or the carp pond.
Hmm.. better make a distinction and qualify that one.

It's like a large roaring river that is brimming w/ steelhead. However, there are a few tributaties that occassionally get cut off from the mainstream where carp have been known to reside. :hehe:
Now, that sounds much better *and* it is politically correct.

Some more clarification-

I have done much better w/ sales at the fixed price board but, in all honesty, the Wanted board has generated 2 or 3 good sales, albeit it took 100+ PMs to get there. There are righteous, solid buyers at the Wanted board but, you've got to get to know them and be selective. At the same time, I can't believe how much gall some people have. In one recent PM exchange that was generated from the Wanted board, a guy offerred me $100 and change for 4 names that, on the reseller scale, were worth a bare minimum of $700-$800. That was after he asked me to prepare a list w/ details of all of my names in the category that he was looking at. I won't name names but, needless to say, he will never hear from me again.

Some buyers need to learn that there is a distinction between unsolicited offers and offers that are put in motion by a request. There is no shame in offerring someone a low-lowball figure for an unsolicited offer. But if a request has been made and you get a counter-offer that is totally off base than that qualifies as mistreatment and the "buyer" deserves the "carp" label. Unfortunately, unless someone comes up w/ a sound and workable solution, that's about all of the recourse that is available.

I was going to mention that discussions of this nature usually belong in the NamePros Info & Suggestions section and see that someone has moved it there. Personally, I would have been inclined to have made a one-time exception and let it ride in General Discussions because it is more visible there, but I defer to the better judgement of whomever it was that moved it here cuz this, really, is where it belongs.

 

[equity78]

Michael good post and you are right on, big difference lowballing unsolicited and when they requested names. I think the way you improve it Michael is to charge 100 NP$ so if someone not serious they will probably not waste everyones time

 

[Grrilla]

Michael good post and you are right on, big difference lowballing unsolicited and when they requested names. I think the way you improve it Michael is to charge 100 NP$ so if someone not serious they will probably not waste everyones time

I think that would be a good step to take. Will bring it up and kick it around w/ other staff. I will say that, in the past, staff discussions have opened me up to some forum dynamics and rationale that I was unaware of. But, I will make certain that other staff members are made aware of this thread and will be a proponent of initiating a policy that is based upon your suggestion.

NP, is noted for the free services and benny's that it offers it's members. But I think the "Wanted" board is, somewhat, of a unique situation and might be a good area for clamping down, a bit. There's no problem figuring out what is motivating a requester in a Sales/Auctions/Appraisals thread. It's a bit more difficult to pin down the poster's agenda in "Wanted". If a seller is motivated and is, earnestly, seeking a name than 100 NP$ wouldn't get in the way, at all. If a "buyer" is fishing and just wants to throw some bait out into the waters to see what rises or is just interested to trolling the bottom to see if there's a weak or wounded fish down below that will give him an easy meal, than he probably will think twice before pulling some change out of his pocket because he isn't a real buyer- he's more akin to a shoplifter, IMHO, and he, prolly is a tight wad.

If the quality of buyer were more consistent, the care that the seller takes in packaging the offer should improve, as well, and if doesn't, the forum and it's members should take some action to make certain that the perp complies. No matter what the amount, If the seller pays something for the service, he/she has the right to expect something in return. His request should be complied w/ to the "T"- meaning he should receive dates, stats, registrar info if requested and the names should fit the parameters of the description. Conversely, If the description is vague, the seller should expect a wide range in name styles until the parameters are drilled down in the description. However, serious buyers are, usually, diligent in outlining their needs.

 

[carltonleon]

Firstly, Thanks for moving the thread here. I was not sure of posting in the Domain Name Discussion section but it seemed to me to be about the best place as I forgot about the Info & Suggestions Section.

Apologies for that.

Secondly, well it would appear that I have hit a raw nerve here. It certainly appears that it is not just me who gets pissed off with this sort of thing continually happening.
I PM'ed DB a few weeks ago with my suggestion of how to stop this and DB agreed with me and said that he would take it to the staff meeting, so hopefully we will get some sort of resolution to this in the near future.
It is not an easy one to solve ....

My idea is different, but I do also like the idea of a 100 NP$ listing fee, which I think would be great if it was donated to charity.
List 4 or 5 Charities and when you list then you choose the one which you want the 100NP$ to go.

 

[Grrilla]

List 4 or 5 Charities and when you list then you choose the one which you want the 100NP$ to go.

Do staff members qualify? In all honesty, I like the gesture but making a demand of a member to contribute to charity doesn't sit well w/ me and I would rather see it go back into NP and and act as a resource that could be used to enhance the forum. The "Wanted Board" is all about business and I think that any income that is derived from it should, also, be lviewed in that context. That's my personal opinion, anyways.

 

[carltonleon]

That's a fair point Grilla.

I do understand where you are coming from with that and accept your point.

What about if you actually buy a domain then you get a refund of the fee.

 

[Sabre]

That's a fair point Grilla.

I do understand where you are coming from with that and accept your point.

What about if you actually buy a domain then you get a refund of the fee.

The main problem with that proposal is that you cannot be sure the domain has actually changed hands, unless you get Paypal and domain push screenshots etc. etc. to be sent and that would require a lot more unneccesary work for the staff IMO.

I do however like the idea of a perhaps, 100NP$ fee as this is a minimal fee for a genuinely interested domainer.

 

[carltonleon]

The main problem with that proposal is that you cannot be sure the domain has actually changed hands, unless you get Paypal and domain push screenshots etc. etc. to be sent and that would require a lot more unneccesary work for the staff IMO.

I do however like the idea of a perhaps, 100NP$ fee as this is a minimal fee for a genuinely interested domainer.

Again I accept that point Sabre. I was not sure how much work it would entail for the staff but I thought that I would post it anyway

 

[matt_bodis]

I am quite fed up with this. Everytime I post a Domain Wanted thread (whether it is here or on a different forum), I get pms from people that completely do not follow my rules.

When I post that I am specifically looking for 1 word .info domains, I get 2 word .info's, I get 3 word .info's, I get .info's with dashes, you name it. Sometimes I don't even get words, I just get a bunch of made up terms not found in the dictionary.

When I post that I want domains that are .com only, I get people posting .net's, .info's, .org's.

I recently posted a thread in the Domains Wanted area that I want 1 word .info domains that are rather high quality such as: games.info, law.info, etc. Well quite frankly, everybody thinks their own domain is high quality, that's #1. People pm me names such as reimproved.info and think that is high quality .info domain. Secondly, to be honest, I have received approx. 15 pms from people selling .info's and out of these 15, about 3 or 4 have actually followed my simple rule "1 WORD .info". I'm sorry, but videogamemachines.info is not 1 word.

Basically, we should have the right to report anybody that sends us domains that aren't following the rules. Or atleast have a rule that these domains must be posted so that the moderators can give out warnings, and after several warnings, they can ban/suspend the person.

Am I the only one?

 

[irishmat]

i think banning people for it is a bit much but yes it is annoying when people pm you names that are quite obviously not what you asked for

 

[equity78]

Also annoying Buyers that don't state a real budget. Just deal in ambiguity. And the whole notion if I state a budget people will come in at the high is totally bigus because those are the fools who will always be fools anyway. But serious domainers will be interested if someone has the budget comparable to what they want for a premium name. LOOKING for LLL anything like I have no budget just pm me, instead of a pm how about a po? PISS OFF