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  1. johnn

    johnn EnameMart.com VIP ★★★★★★★★★★

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    For those of you who know me a long long time, I do not normally complain about anything in the past 16 years since I started the domain business but I feel like I need to warn people about the situation.

    Due to NP rules, I am not allowed to mention the name but you should be able to figure it out.
    Remember the rules here and do not mention the name.

    I did some works for them and they own me money but did not pay me. I sent several PMs to the owners and the Admin for weeks and they keep saying they will pay but finally they ignored my PMs for weeks.

    I have no choice but create threads in their forums and they keep deleting the posts with no answer or reply.
    They finally ban me yesterday after being there 14 years.

    Not paying for what you promised and banning me to avoid paying is scamming and I do have the option to pursue litigation .
    I am not concerning much about money. I just want to warn people for what they did to me so are all aware.

    Per NP Rules PLEASE DO NOT MENTION THE FORUM NAME WHEN YOU REPLY.

    They bark the wrong tree!

    John
     
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  2. Haroon Basha

    Haroon Basha IZUQ.COM Gold Account VIP

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    Criminals should be exposed, why we sympathy them by hiding their names. You really deserve a fair treatment and you must get your dues.
     
  3. johnn

    johnn EnameMart.com VIP ★★★★★★★★★★

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    The story:

    On December 8th, the Admin guy asked me if I want to help to run the forum. I said I can help but I will not work for free. I will will run the front end to take care of the members and he will run the back end to take care the technical stuffs. We agreed on a monthly payment amount.

    After 6 weeks nothing happened on the back end and there are errors everywhere. He virtually did nothing.
    I told him I cannot work like this as I don't want to keep promises to the members and nothing has been done for months. I wanted to resign and asked him to pay me 6 weeks for my works.
    He keep saying he will pay several times but there is no payment.
    Then (the two owners and the Admin) they ignored all of my PMs. I told them if they don't answer me then I will post asking for payment in the public (posting in the forum). They keep deleting my posts for 4/5 days then finally they banned me.
    The reason: The Admin guy said "I did only 20% of what I promised".
    I spent more than 10 hours a day for 6 weeks and my job was to take care of members, delete spam posts and ban spammers. I did all that.

    Using the reason I did only 20% of my job is non sense and not a good excuse to not to pay me.
    It's only a couple hundred of dollars so it's not a big deal to me as I spent thousand of dollars on this forum to buy names every month.

    I paid $399 for my membership and banning me for no reason is low and unprofessional.
    I don't need the money that bad but I don't want people rip me off.

    IF THEY BEG ME in Public I will let it go and forget about the money and these scumbags.

    The owners name is George Verdugo and Kevin Faler and the Tech guy is Mark (I don't know his last name).

    1. Rip me off by not paying for the job that I did for them
    2. Ban me so they don't have to pay

    Like I said. They bark the wrong tree.
    The damages have been done and will continue...

    I suggest everyone should be careful when dealing with them.
    I keep a copy of all the posts that I made and all the conversations in the PMs so no one can flip/flop the story.

    Regretfully,

    John
     
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  5. wwwweb

    wwwweb Top Member VIP

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    What members, does anyone even go there? They are out to lunch if they want to waste money building it back up, people have left with a distaste in their mouth. There used to be some big deals done on that site via a virtual handshake which made it attractive, but those people will not come back, the new generation of domainers finds the platform boring, and a lack of users creates a ghost town effect. Just lay it to rest in peace. I believe you used to be a mod there back in the day also, so you had history, they lured you in, and I guess against your better judgement you trusted a bunch of people who are in business with A D to some extent.
     
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  6. VOR

    VOR Established Member

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    John, The forum is dead that you talk about, who cares.
    Forget the dough and move on. The horse is dead, beating it is just a waste of more of your time.
    Namepros is number 1 the rest don't matter and aren't worth mentioning IMO.
     
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  7. biggie

    biggie Top Member VIP ★★★★★★★★★★

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    i was mod there before johnn came on board

    and for a couple of years, I did it for free, for at that time, it was for the love of the forum.

    and when a d started kickin in cash for the gig, that made it even better

    sometimes times payment was late...

    but since I had did it for free for so many years prior, I didn't complain about it

    eventually, a d sent all payments due and after I was kicked to the curb

    john stayed on, until it fell on itself

    that was a 10 plus years experience.

    so, I say, chalk it up as one.

    imo.....
     
  8. MapleDots

    MapleDots Domain Properties 2010 - 2018 VIP

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    I go there on occasion and you can do NOTHING without paying, anything I click on is restricted.

    The big question is.....

    Why would I pay you for something that I cant even preview?

    At least on namePros I can have a free account and still do some of the basics. If I decide its for me then I can always become a business member. That is the way to properly run a board.

    I decided a while back to to stop selling anywhere but my own website but I still enjoy coming to namepros for the interactions and the occasional beatdown by it's members. :xf.laugh:
     
  9. Embrand

    Embrand Active Member VIP ★★★★★★★★★★

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    Disgusting behaviour. I think it doesn't matter if we are talking $1 or $100,000. It's a matter of principle. Of course they should pay you.
     
  10. johnn

    johnn EnameMart.com VIP ★★★★★★★★★★

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    The web site is now forwarded to Sedo for sale. Asking $25,000
    Selling the domain only no content.

    I guess they broke.
     
  11. Kate

    Kate Domainosaurus Rex VIP ★★★★★★★★★★

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    What a shame. It used to be the place to do business but it's been on life support for too long. RIP.
     
  12. MapleDots

    MapleDots Domain Properties 2010 - 2018 VIP

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    I can bring it up.... seems to be active
     
  13. -EM-

    -EM- Top Member VIP ★★★★★★★★★★

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    The forum was dead since they bought it. They did nothing to revive it. The forum was a target for spammers.
     
  14. Kate

    Kate Domainosaurus Rex VIP ★★★★★★★★★★

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    Flush your DNS cache ?
     
  15. -EM-

    -EM- Top Member VIP ★★★★★★★★★★

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    It is not easy. You will need a team.
     
  16. MapleDots

    MapleDots Domain Properties 2010 - 2018 VIP

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    Yup' down now for sure.
    What a strange thing, I must have clicked over a dozen links before.

    Anyways.... it's always a loss when a resource goes down, but alas life goes on.
     
  17. MapleDots

    MapleDots Domain Properties 2010 - 2018 VIP

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    It could be re-launched as a forum of what not to do in business.

    Call it...

    Do Not Forum .com 😃
     
  18. Silentptnr

    Silentptnr Hey From L.A. VIP

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    Sorry to hear they took advantage of your kindness @johnn . Karma has a way of working things out. Best of luck on your future projects. Don't blame yourself for being a trusting and honest person, most people are.

    What a shame.

     
  19. doc24

    doc24 A Wish Sandwich Gold Account

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    Johnn, we interacted several times over the years and you were always fair and a great moderator, AD is a scam artist and so are these people... Its obvious yet they continue to keep scamming people.. I hope eventually you get paid along with the many many others ad scammed
     
  20. Ategy.com

    Ategy.com Upgraded Member Gold Account VIP

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    I used to own / admin / operate a 30k member DJ / Club Music community / forum .. a lot of work .. I had a handful of (volunteer) Mods ... VERY rewarding knowing you're responsible for bringing people together from all over the world! :)

    Sorry to hear this happened to you after working so much on it .. I know it likely hurts more than for just the money .. but for the loss of the community! :(
     
  21. enlytend

    enlytend Moderator, NamePros Moderator Gold Account VIP Trusted Blogger ★★★★★★★★★★

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    Sorry to hear - that sucks. And foolish of them from a business standpoint.
     
  22. ikhub

    ikhub Active Member VIP

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    So they are selling my information too? The domain is for sale with "database of 535,000 Domainers".
     
  23. eurorealtor

    eurorealtor Active Member VIP

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    It used to be a decent forum. NP has no competition now.
     
  24. MapleDots

    MapleDots Domain Properties 2010 - 2018 VIP

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    Are you sure?

    HeHe, I know this little Canadian forum that takes about 3 visitors per day. I'm waiting for it to grow up and become serious competition. :xf.laugh::ROFL::xf.laugh::ROFL::xf.laugh::ROFL:
     
  25. johnn

    johnn EnameMart.com VIP ★★★★★★★★★★

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    Update.

    Kevin, one of the owner, sent me an email (cc George on the email) and asked me to send him an invoice for the amount that they owned me.
    Almost 2 days and nothing ha happened yet.

    I don't understand - They have my payment information from the PMs - why send me an email and asked me again.

    May be they will pay me after the sold the site?
     

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