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Hello all,

i would be most grateful if somebody would help me out here.
First off i am new at this domain flipping only last week i started buying domains.
I received many calls and emails from all over the world trying to sell me websites for my domains and offer me useless services (scam) however today an email was in my junk folder which reads:

Hello!
>
> I represent an investor who needs accomodationrental.com for a new project.
>
> Are you still interested in selling this domain?
>
> If so, please reply back and we will negotiate the price and discuss the sale process.
>
> Are you a beginner in domain sales or an experienced seller?
>
> Best Regards,
>
name removed
>
> CEO
>
name removed
>
> UK

to which i replied vaguely to send an offer for my consideration since i cannot make out of it if its a potential scam or genuine.

Another email come within 5 minutes with the following:

"My client offers $20,000. He can send you a check or we can proceed via an escrow service of his choice.

He is a professional investor, so he buys verified domains only in order to avoid all possible risks. It's the first time we are doing business with you. Please email me your appraisal certificate with the trademark verification. I will resend it to my client."

now i am new at this... but the idea of forwarding appraisals and other docs... don't sound convincing.... but is this normal procedure?

Please somebody advice, i am new at this and quite in a bad financial situation, i could really do with a quick sale.

Also to mention.... the domain in question was purchased by me via godaddy on the 26th 06 2015. so would this mean that i have to wait 60 days for the resale?

If somebody could advice i would be mostly grateful

Regards
Dan
 
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Well known Appraisal SCAM for years / decade. Don't fall in it. READ.. READ .. READ..
 
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Looks like a "domain appraisal" scam...
 
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this just come:
"He can offer $30,000.

Please email me the appraisal certificate with the TM verification included as he requested."

it does not say or refer to a specific service but keep mentioning this appraisal stuff.

I did reply that the domain is up for sale at godaddy. and if he interestd he can purchase there.

Is there any way to get a free appraisal anywhere?
 
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estibot...

again - it is a scam. they will probably ask you to use their service
 
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lol i did the estibot and estibot come with 0 value!
 
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if your on acid, unplug your computer or shut your laptop screen. if not, scam. -- haha but for real :)
 
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ive sold a domain for 8000$ with estibot 0$ -- estibot uses are good for values of different variables relating to a domain, the price is based on math done by these variables. Conclusion: not a credible appraiser. unless you reigstered for negative 100$ and sold for 0$ you made 100$ estifake dollars!
 
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many thanks for your replies.
i asked the "buyer" where would i get the appraisal from....
again i know you right and is scam.... the faint hope it's not makes me pursue.
 
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appraisal scam,,just delete it
 
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Yes, it must be a scam! So, just ignore it.

As to your second question: you do need to wait a 60 day lock period, in order to be able to push it to any other registrar. However, if you use Godaddy's auctions and sell it there, you don't need to wait for that period.
 
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I have also received many emails like this in the past.Its all scam do not reply to these messages.If you want to save your money and your domain then keeps yourself away from such scams.:guilty:
 
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Got the very same email with my very first hand reg when I was starting.... STAY AWAY, it's a total scam
 
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It's a scam - wonder how many people they trick and how much they make .... I like your domain though
 
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Many thanks for the souni d advice.
It's a scam - wonder how many people they trick and how much they make .... I like your domain though

thank you!
 
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o by the way.... bingo, i received the final email from the "broker" pointing me to web page with domain appraisal form @ $149.99....

i have kindly replied and also asked him if he would also be interested in "go_f***_your_self.com"
and several more! :laugh::laugh::laugh:
 
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Hi NP members and all others,

according to this thread I like to give you an example of a funny converstion with a dumb lier if you are interested to read it.
I knowed from beginning that he, the 'interested buyer', was a scam fake lier, self named as 'MCSE Vice President Karl Rotberg' - so I took the time and reply to his fake email trying to hold the conversation as long as possible to let him hope for a big deal (he deserved it not other).

I began to write in some really nonsense and weird english with him - so he could not really understand what I want but thinking at the same time that I am interested hahahaaa - but read for yourself.
Note: All links are changed to 'XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX'



FIRST EMAIL from 'MCSE Vice President Karl Rotberg'

Dear Sir,

my client from Canada is going to buy a domain from you.
Our company is in hosting business.
My client has $527,000 budget for 20-30 domains.
What is your asking price?
How can we pay you (escrow, paypal or wire)?
If you are new to the selling process I can help you.
I have relations with many investors in the industry.
If you or your friends are interested in selling a name I'm always ready to help.
I work on a commission basis but my services are free for sellers.
They are paid by buyers.

Best regards,
MCSE Vice President Karl Rotberg

Investor Relations Host Europe Group
11 Sixth Ave
Portsmouth
UK




MY REPLY

Hello MCSE Vice President Karl Rotberg,

Yes, I like to sell a domain now.
Would you like to buy it after?
You can buy it before for yourself if you change want or you can buy it for your client if he can this want again - it does not matter for me against the science in order to the string.
So please tell me the meta of your trying for response along the status of the questions in relation to the papers of tobago.
It’s also possible to make sense with wood inside the domain name or hosting.
But only pronouncing the DNS for submitting solutions in high quality Business is to low.

Best regards,
My Name




HIS REPLY

Dear Sir,

Maybe - but let me start as follow:
My client offers 12.000,00 Euros.
Before we proceed with the sale my client needs only one thing from you:
My client is an experienced investor and he buys certified domains only to avoid potential risks with trademarks and overpriced/stolen domains.
He needs a certification with a valuation and trademark infringement verification.
If your domain has been certified please email me the certificate and we will proceed with the sale.
If you don't have the certificate it's not a problem. I may send you a link where you can obtain it. You can read about the certificate agency at XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX ('Domain Broker' is my nickname).
Please don't worry. It takes 1-2 minutes to order it. The results will be sent to you within 24 hours.
Then you send me the certificate via email and we'll proceed with the sale
As a broker I'm very interested in a good valuation part of this certificate because my client pays me a commission (10-15% of the sale price) on every domain purchase.
So I'm not interested in a low price too.

The process is very easy:

1. Go to the certificate agency site and order a certificate. Just submit your domains and let them know you have a buyer with 12000 offer.
It will help you to get a better valuation. If the price in your certificate comes higher we will increase our offer accordingly.
2. Send the results via email and we'll proceed with the deal.
If you are new to the certification process I can help you with the step by step instructions.
The proper certification contains three points:
3. Independent valuation of the market price. It will show your domain name is not overpriced. On the other hand if the valuation comes higher we will increase the price accordingly.
4. Trademark infringement verification. It proves your domain has no trademark problems.
5. Verification of the owner. It proves you are a legitimate owner and your domain has no any obligations and restrictions. I'm sure that you are a legitimate owner so it will be only a formality.


Best regards,
MCSE Vice President Karl Rotberg

Investor Relations Host Europe Group
11 Sixth Ave
Portsmouth
UK




MY NEXT REPLY

Hello MCSE Vice President Karl Rotberg,

the hosting examination includes the trademark freeze services around the world of banking Business in law.
So you can sell / resell / presell your phones worldwide – without handling clips or easy staying beside the future of rivers near river.
Buy your domain from the top of the level host and gain for the cash.
Otherwise you will catch the fish like a boss.
Seek help in data of day and make domain to domain.
One time the remark of seven papers of Tobago will change your freeze.
So what is the next step?
I am willing to sell a few more than some.

Best regards,
My Name




HIS NEXT REPLY

Dear Sir,

I can help you with instructions.
It's an easy process.
It has nothing to do with Tobago, I dont know what you mean.
Before we proceed you should obtain the domain certificate at Domain Certification Site.
They verify trademarks and my client trusts them.
They send results very fast - within 24 hours.
It will take only 2 minutes of your time to order it.
If you have any questions during the certification please feel free to ask for my help.
I'm very motivated to finish this deal.
After my investor receives your certificate we will proceed with the sale.
I will help you with the transfer process.
Please don't worry.
I will be with you during the whole sale/transfer process.
I will answer all your questions.
You can count on my help.

Best regards,
MCSE Vice President Karl Rotberg

Investor Relations Host Europe Group
11 Sixth Ave
Portsmouth
UK




MY NEXT REPLY

Hello MCSE Vice President Karl Rotberg,

Veryfying stock host.
Otherwise options for service.
Its simple as the papers.
Cut of the domain with WHOIS check near the goal of Tobago.
Take time to catch your appraise for lifting up your shoes in trademark risks.
Sometimes clicks are oligarch Laptops for free.
So what will you do now?
Are you interested to buy my domain or not?
Some notebook to high rate?

Best regards,
My Name




HIS NEXT REPLY

Dear Sir,

No phones or notebooks, only domain names.
But they can certify developed sites too.
Anyway, my client needs the certification of the domain only.
You can get the certification at XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX
This is the fastest service.
They certify names within 24 hours.

Best regards,
MCSE Vice President Karl Rotberg

Investor Relations Host Europe Group
11 Sixth Ave
Portsmouth
UK



MY NEXT REPLY

Hello MCSE Vice President Karl Rotberg,

ok thanks - but one step far to Google or yahoo is the similar member exchange for domain certifications.
So how I can get the certification of host?
I want to sell my domain as quick as postmaster server client because of the Trinidad papers!
Do yo want to buy my domain?
Every year since they have been made available by clicking through an entire generation from this case of stock options.
So how you want to see what happens next season domain host?
I want to sell my domain - I can what support of office and it's only number clicks clicking clicked.
Let me know the next step to ask domain web space hosting provider domain service.

Best regards,
My Name




HIS NEXT REPLY

Dear Sir,

Its easier than you think - please just go to XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX
Order the certification.
There is only one type of the certification.
The results will be sent to you within 24 hours. Then email me the results.
My client checks it and we will proceed with the sale.

Best regards,
MCSE Vice President Karl Rotberg

Investor Relations Host Europe Group
11 Sixth Ave
Portsmouth
UK




MY NEXT REPLY

Hello MCSE Vice President Karl Rotberg,

Ok, that sounds really simple!
So I could have done that before they were going back to the domain certifications?
My site is a development team site of environment for domain check and DNS strings for customers host hosting DNS and host only by DNS.
Can you help me please through the process?
I want to sell my domain as quick as I said before!
You know, because of Tobago and paper stock services around the globe.
So tell me please how to check out as a whole different types of the certification to sell / buy the best domains.
Thanks!

Best regards,
My Name




HIS NEXT REPLY

Dear Sir,

as I said, please just go to XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX
Then order the certification.
Again, it’s very simple and fast too.

Best regards,
MCSE Vice President Karl Rotberg

Investor Relations Host Europe Group
11 Sixth Ave
Portsmouth
UK




MY NEXT REPLY

Hello MCSE Vice President Karl Rotberg,

I can sell domains without catching the fish before your client is against the host for paper field certifications.
So what should I do with should?
You can buy it if you want sell – tell me your price, I will tell it the cat for necessary sure maybe.
Paper stock net tax for options in provider web layout.
Whatever – do you know XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX?

Best regards,
My Name




HIS NEXT REPLY

Dear Sir,

can you describe me your deal in a simple way please?
My clients don’t have much time.
I only need certification for them than I can buy domains from you.

Best regards,
MCSE Vice President Karl Rotberg

Investor Relations Host Europe Group
11 Sixth Ave
Portsmouth
UK




MY NEXT REPLY

Hello MCSE Vice President Karl Rotberg,

I want to order domain process service server host DNS Certificate as the cat catches the bird with Providers.
So what should I so than do within time?
Can you help me please with the accordings now?

Best regards,
My Name




HIS NEXT REPLY

Dear Sir,

Again, you should order the certification for your domain exactly at

XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX
Order it now.
Just order it now please.
We will help you in any way.

Best regards,
MCSE Vice President Karl Rotberg

Investor Relations Host Europe Group
11 Sixth Ave
Portsmouth
UK




MY NEXT REPLY

Hello MCSE Vice President Karl Rotberg,

Ok I help it and when the service of DNS is trying to chooses by the try?
I need papers because I need papers for support service host domain paper host.
Can you send me papers for catch?

Best regards,
My Name




HIS NEXT REPLY

Dear Sir,

You don't need any papers to order the certification and sell the domain!
I'm not a newbie, I've sold hundreds of names.
Looks like you cannot provide my client with the certification.
In this case we will look for other names.

Best regards,
MCSE Vice President Karl Rotberg

Investor Relations Host Europe Group
11 Sixth Ave
Portsmouth
UK




MY NEXT REPLY

Hello MCSE Vice President Karl Rotberg,

Ok, I see - but what is with the domain then in the house of clipping?
You know, the papers for certification are frowling down inside the plane hosting fish and cat catching stock options real.
So what?
Are you an expert in broking host domains for string clicks or are you on holidays like a kind of what?

Best regards,
My Name




HIS NEXT REPLY


Dear Sir,

Really - I don't understand your english.
Do you understand my emails or not?
Do you understand what I say?

Best regards,
MCSE Vice President Karl Rotberg

Investor Relations Host Europe Group
11 Sixth Ave
Portsmouth
UK




MY NEXT REPLY

Hello MCSE Vice President Karl Rotberg,

yes, I understand the time from host certificate for english emails.
What are you not understanding within your organization that provides information about their products with domain remembers of Trinidad?
I think it is easier than ever since before, just understand it more english than less.
So I ask you again:
What is your favorite domain to bring it out for catch?
Is there any way to sell domains with domain registration process for all your friends and neighbors?
How can I get vertical markets for domain certifications?
Where i cn submit my domain?
I want to sell it!

Best regards,
My Name




HIS NEXT REPLY

Dear Sir,

ou should submit your domain now at:
XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX
If you have other names with good keyword please submit them too.
My client is very interested in such names.

Best regards,
MCSE Vice President Karl Rotberg

Investor Relations Host Europe Group
11 Sixth Ave
Portsmouth
UK




MY NEXT REPLY


Hello MCSE Vice President Karl Rotberg,

submitting the place for catch Broker of keyword client.
Names are such other names to resell for fish and cat refuse the string data of DNS service domain host websolution paper.
If you have any other keywords to catch, than bring it out for real.
If you have solutions inside the cave try to pronounce your name simple as easy way understanding the catch options for stock.
Anyway – what is your next step?

Best regards,
My Name




HIS NEXT REPLY

Dear Sir,

we cannot order it.
This service can be ordered by an owner only.
They will verify you.
They provide deeper Analysis.
It's not only the WHO IS check.
They also appraise your domain and verify all possible trademark risks.
My client needs an opinion of independent experts.
My client won't proceed without this verification.

Best regards,
MCSE Vice President Karl Rotberg

Investor Relations Host Europe Group
11 Sixth Ave
Portsmouth
UK




MY NEXT REPLY

Hello MCSE Vice President Karl Rotberg,

please note, that you can buy every domain from my domains at XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX
It's easier and simpler than your fishy certification crap.
You are not understanding my English so go and get some options for Trinidad papers vertical markets with domain names and strong DNS planes submitting your favorite song.

Best regards,
My Name




HIS NEXT REPLY

Dear Sir,

I need verification first, let’s write more after verification!

Best regards,
MCSE Vice President Karl Rotberg

Investor Relations Host Europe Group
11 Sixth Ave
Portsmouth
UK




MY NEXT REPLY

Hello MCSE Vice President Karl Rotberg,

ok I see you can not renew the stock - so lets forget the deal.
I thought you was willing to buy my domain for fishing the catch up with some more followers.
So I don't wanna talk about what you mean without the meaning of the talk what you.
First time, then go and see where this morning that provides support services around number of Trinidad papers stock hosting papers verification process by vertical version versus very visa crap!
So forget yor biz, it's better for your check pay two!

Best regards,
My Name




HE NEVER REPLIED AGAIN hahahaa

Hope you enjoy it!
 
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Hey spiritual.top

You do know that it is against Sedo's parking rules for you to drive traffic towards a parked domain?

You probably need to change that sig.
 
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@papix77, don't listen to any advice given to you here. As you said, you are new at domaining, meaning you need to start strong. Reply to the email saying that you are new and you don't know any trustworthy appraisal service. Then they definitely will offer you to use their appraisal service. After they send you an email about their service, wait for few minutes then send them this picture below.

http://postimg.org/image/u8kp7c45f/
 
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Hello all,

i would be most grateful if somebody would help me out here.
First off i am new at this domain flipping only last week i started buying domains.
I received many calls and emails from all over the world trying to sell me websites for my domains and offer me useless services (scam) however today an email was in my junk folder which reads:

Hello!
>
> I represent an investor who needs accomodationrental.com for a new project.
>
> Are you still interested in selling this domain?
>
> If so, please reply back and we will negotiate the price and discuss the sale process.
>
> Are you a beginner in domain sales or an experienced seller?
>
> Best Regards,
>
name removed
>
> CEO
>
name removed
>
> UK

to which i replied vaguely to send an offer for my consideration since i cannot make out of it if its a potential scam or genuine.

Another email come within 5 minutes with the following:

"My client offers $20,000. He can send you a check or we can proceed via an escrow service of his choice.

He is a professional investor, so he buys verified domains only in order to avoid all possible risks. It's the first time we are doing business with you. Please email me your appraisal certificate with the trademark verification. I will resend it to my client."

now i am new at this... but the idea of forwarding appraisals and other docs... don't sound convincing.... but is this normal procedure?

Please somebody advice, i am new at this and quite in a bad financial situation, i could really do with a quick sale.

Also to mention.... the domain in question was purchased by me via godaddy on the 26th 06 2015. so would this mean that i have to wait 60 days for the resale?

If somebody could advice i would be mostly grateful

Regards
Dan
 
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