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Mike Mann drops 50,000 domains

Labeled as news in Domain Industry News, started by charrisg, Jun 18, 2020

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  1. Bruce81

    Bruce81 Established Member

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    Mike Mann must have changed his mind about some of the 50 000 domains.

    I checked the status of some of the domain names. Some expired and were reregistered. Others are yet to be acquired.

    Take the case of southky.com for example. Even though it is still on the list of the domains he dropped, it was updated during the redemption period.

    Here is the Whois information:

    Domain: southky.com

    Registrar: eNom, LLC

    Registered On: 2012-04-23

    Expires On: 2020-04-23

    Updated On: 2020-06-05

    Status: redemptionPeriod

    Name Servers:

    dns1.name-services.com
    dns2.name-services.com
    dns3.name-services.com
    dns4.name-services.com
    dns5.name-services.com
     
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  2. werejack

    werejack Established Member

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    Agreed but if I may add that a factòr in UDRP cases is whether or not a domain was registered in bad faith (in this case I mean trying to profit/capitalize knowing the act is wrong but pretending to have had sincere intentions not limited to cybersquatting) e.g uber is not a word that was/is used in day-to-day life until made popular by the ride app. Another result of the business/app is the increased search volume for the word and the brand awareness so one would register uber----.com and benefit from existing search volume, brand awareness. Similar case with TESLA, the name of the inventor but company is more popular. APPLE, AMAZON etc as well.

    But of course, this is my opinion.
     
    Last edited: Jun 22, 2020
  3. maxjohan

    maxjohan Established Member ★★★★★★★★★★

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    Like Rick Schwartz says. Sniper approach, not shotgun approach. :xf.smile:
     
  4. dombastic

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    English is NOT the only language in the world. Some people speak also other languages.

    "über" is "over" in German and is used as frequently as over.
    "über-" is a prefix in German meaning "over"- (e.g. overtime), "super-" (e.g. superman), "hyper-" (e.g. hyperthermy) or "ultra-".

    Both are and were frequently used in German speaking countries long before your app existed.
     
    Last edited: Jun 22, 2020
  5. jim h

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    The fact is bad domain names are worthless.
     
  6. otismo

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    4 - 4 letters

    468 - 5 letters

    1618 - 6 letters

    2291 - 7 letters

    2892 - 8 letters

    less than ten percent of the drop -

    guess it is safe to assume Mr. Mann likes his shorter names...
     
  7. werejack

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    Noted. I don't think I said english is the only language in the world.
    Thank you for that clarification and apologies as i now see my post didn't state the exception of Germany. But the point I was trying to make was that when it comes to trademark infringement being a generic term is not adequate defence to register a domain as the commercial use, brand awareness, internet search volume before and after that business spent time and money building a presence online can be a factor. I admit me stating that uber was not used in day-to-day communication did not state German as an exception was incorrect but in relation to my point, the SCALE at which the term was being used online before uber app spent millions on marketing significantly increased online searches and brand awareness for the word.
     
  8. Recons.Com

    Recons.Com Top Contributor VIP

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    Shorter is rarer normally too. What are his holdings of that length in total? I am guessing, not more than 20%.
     
  9. OnlineDomainCom

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  10. Bruce81

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  11. DomainBoxio

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    I wonder what his bulk discounts are like on renewals??
     
  12. AdriaanB

    AdriaanB New Member

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    I went through most domains on the list and I want to congratulate Mike Mann on dramatically increasing his profitability in the next couple of years.
     
  13. OnlineDomainCom

    OnlineDomainCom VIP Member OnlineDomain.com VIP ★★★★★★★★★★

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    Saving a couple of cents maybe?
    Most domainers get a price close to $8.15 or $8.10 for .com.
     
  14. DomainBoxio

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    He's out-registered the majority of registrars, single-handedly...on the other hand, a few cents per domain is probably not the biggest concern, considering the sales reported.
     
  15. unmark

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    For Mike Mann's 300,000 remaining domains, 1 cent that Mike can save per domain per year for renewing becomes $3K saved money. I think in Mike's case, every cent in renewing counts.

     
  16. Pazu

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    I went through the whole list before noticing this. Would have saved me some time if I had. Thanks for the info. I got about 10 names I consider worthwhile.

    Some takeaways...
    1) Many names on the original list have already been drop caught or registered on Sav.com. These higher quality names should have been mostly kept, imo, but that’s only less than 1% of them and he was looking at metrics we don’t have, such as traffic and lack of past offers.
    2) More than that have dropped and are available but these are obviously not as good as those grabbed in my first takeaway.
    3) This was a good long-term decision by Mike to drop these names. Holding the vast majority of these was a losing proposition and I, like many others, can't understand his thinking in the first place. However, they could have been worse with most of them being real words and he apparently even dropped a few LLLL.
    4) He dropped some decent Spanish names, if one can consider Spanish names good (I don't really). I'm just impressed by his Spanish ability, though there are many typos.
    5) Some of these names are expiring in October or later, so I don't see why they made it on this list.
    6) I expect he will keep dropping names over the next 8 months to slim down his portfolio further.
     
    Last edited: Jun 30, 2020 at 12:04 PM
  17. Bob Hawkes

    Bob Hawkes Top Member NameTalent VIP Gold Account Trusted Blogger

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    In case people did not see it, @OnlineDomainCom has published a long post from @Mike Mann which, while not directly explaining the drops, does give his view of the state of the domain world and advice for domain success as he sees it. You can read the full post here. It includes this quote. He is not a fan or hand registrations or extensions other than .com:
    "There over 100 million .Com already registered. There is no point in registering more unless you know something I don’t know. The object is to buy the best ones that exist already at the lowest prices possible, and sell them at the highest."

    Thanks for covering this so well, @OnlineDomainCom.

    Bob
     

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