Michael Jackson domain name what the &#@^ is wrong with these people!?

[john_karr]

Hello I'm watching CNN live, LA times confirm MJ is Dead CNN has not confirm it yet. So I go to check to see if any of these cybersnakes idiots register MJ domain name and I can not believe it MichaelJacksondied.com and Michaeljacksondies.com is registered. What the hell is wrong with these people this just PISS me off these people are not Human. Some people do anything to make a dollar! SICK!

 

[tkstark]

here, too, is an item that should be of interest to those registering celebrity names:

Jay Leno wins cybersquatting case by Reuters: Yahoo! Tech

 

[JoeBiz]

So it's somehow OK that billions have been made from the deaths of Sinatra, Elvis, Picasso. But it's not OK for the same to happen from MJ's death. What about Lennon? How about a Princess Diana doll for your kid? Whether or not it's tasteful is not for you to decide. If you don't like the show, change the channel.

 

[mjbenterprises]

Great post.. My thoughts exactly...Looks like the moral police on here likes to decide how people should live their lives...Well, I have regged MJ domains, and would reg more if it was financially beneficial to me, and could care less what anyone on here or anywhere else thinks about it....

So it's somehow OK that billions have been made from the deaths of Sinatra, Elvis, Picasso. But it's not OK for the same to happen from MJ's death. What about Lennon? How about a Princess Diana doll for your kid? Whether or not it's tasteful is not for you to decide. If you don't like the show, change the channel.

 

[localexperts]

care less what anyone on here or anywhere else thinks about it....

so you don't care what ICANN thinks and that they have taken away these domain that violate trademark

this is not a morale issue, it is a legal issue.

---------- Post added at 08:55 AM ---------- Previous post was at 08:49 AM ----------

So it's somehow OK that billions have been made from the deaths of Sinatra, Elvis, Picasso. But it's not OK for the same to happen from MJ's death. What about Lennon? How about a Princess Diana doll for your kid? Whether or not it's tasteful is not for you to decide. If you don't like the show, change the channel.

Most of that is done legally without violating trademark laws. The issue isn't making money off people's death. The issue is doing it legally so that the trademark owners get their proper due.

 

[mjbenterprises]

For me personally, I regged MichaelJacksonLatestNews.com for it's fairly large EXACT search volume... I'd like to see any lawyer try and fight a name like this..

No one owns the news, news can be reported freely... And if I have a few amazon links on the site to sell MJ books/CDs, guess who is going to get the lions share of profits?? Amazon and MJ's estate, that's who..... I will get a very small affialite commission, so I am nothing more than another salesman for THEIR products...

Not sure about legal issues on other types of MJ domains, but even if I feared lawsuits, I wouldn't be worried with my type of name...And my MJ name is not in bad taste, IMO....

 

[localexperts]

As with any legal case, the circumstance dicate the risk. That sounds less risky than throwing the domain on ebay with a million dollar price tag or putting a porn site on a domain like MichaelJacksonsDeath.com regged within minutes of his passing. Good luck.

 

[tony_np]

Don't know whether this link has been posted here yet. I just searched on ebay:

michael jackson domain, great deals on Computers Networking, Entertainment Memorabilia on eBay!

 

[Archangel]

So it's somehow OK that billions have been made from the deaths of Sinatra, Elvis, Picasso. But it's not OK for the same to happen from MJ's death. What about Lennon? How about a Princess Diana doll for your kid? Whether or not it's tasteful is not for you to decide. If you don't like the show, change the channel.

Nope. In a legit light -- royalties are paid to the estate of the deceased. In a NON-legit light -- Fans make money off these celebs for pure profit. Why is it that the estate and TM owners seldom pursue every infringement? Simple: For one -- there are far too many of these infringements out there and 2 -- over 99 percent of them make little to nothing. Since the second fact is as it is -- it's not worth seeking litigation on. IF word got out that one of these sites pulls a decent profit... it is then when the lawsuits come about. And even in some cases -- ppl sue over these poor 99% domains & site.

So please don't start with the "Everyone does it so it has to be okay" argument. This throwing around of ignorance is really bugging me.

---------- Post added at 08:36 PM ---------- Previous post was at 08:34 PM ----------

Great post.. My thoughts exactly...Looks like the moral police on here likes to decide how people should live their lives...Well, I have regged MJ domains, and would reg more if it was financially beneficial to me, and could care less what anyone on here or anywhere else thinks about it....

*sighs* There is no moral police with his post. It's standard law.

---------- Post added at 08:38 PM ---------- Previous post was at 08:36 PM ----------

For me personally, I regged MichaelJacksonLatestNews.com for it's fairly large EXACT search volume... I'd like to see any lawyer try and fight a name like this..

No one owns the news, news can be reported freely... And if I have a few amazon links on the site to sell MJ books/CDs, guess who is going to get the lions share of profits?? Amazon and MJ's estate, that's who..... I will get a very small affialite commission, so I am nothing more than another salesman for THEIR products...

Not sure about legal issues on other types of MJ domains, but even if I feared lawsuits, I wouldn't be worried with my type of name...And my MJ name is not in bad taste, IMO....

You have Jacko's name in it so a claim is possible and you'd likely lose since you probably don't have the cash for a high-profile lawyer.

---------- Post added at 08:41 PM ---------- Previous post was at 08:38 PM ----------

Oh Jelly: Picasso's work is public domain. According to the laws stated on U.S. Copyright Office So YES you can make money off him without problems.

 

[danBoT]

So Randy I figure that when any of the members of papa roach die you will give up the name your are squating on as its the "moral" thing to do?

 

[gemstar]

This right here is the clincher.

MichaelJacksonsAutopsyPhotos.Info

www.MichaelJacksonsAutopsyPhotos.Info - eBay (item 160345058691 end time Jul-02-09 14:52:56 PDT)

Directed to a auto website?

 

[Archangel]

So Randy I figure that when any of the members of papa roach die you will give up the name your are squating on as its the "moral" thing to do?

First off: I am not squatting, as you say. Please get your facts straight before passing out false accusations.

On the other issues: The question of morals is still at play but there is no comparison of PapaRoach.net & MichaelJacksonAutopsyPhotos.com other than that they have a popular entity's name in them. I suppose you can argue that both domains are in "bad faith." That depends on your moral compass. That had been the issue this thread has been debating. In the sense of my site: I've made a venue where fans can go to learn about the band & whatnot. I am doing a good service for the benefit of the fans and requesting a little money to compensate on my hosting fees is acceptable in the eyes of many. It's the equivalent of Reuters reporting the news. THAT is questionable to many (as this thread points out) but at least I'm not asking a grieving child -- whose parents were victims of a bloody murder -- for an interview for the 6 o'clock news. Some still question this but sites like AZLyrics.com are up and running & Metallica hasn't filed lawsuit against everyone whose read their song lyrics off the site. It's not the "everyone else does it so it has to be okay" argument: I'm not saying it's okay but rather am only pointing out the fact that the site is still online.

MichaelJacksonAutopsyPhotos.com and similar exist for different reasons. The domains will never be developed and exist more or less for parking revenue. They do not provide any real service and are only registered to exploit the death of a celeb. Now you can argue with that -- that my domain compares more than I'm discussing. Go ahead -- NP exists for domain discussion. But the ethical thing will be debated forever. My PR domain is in as good of faith as the .com variant (its usage can be argued) but there is no good faith to be found in the vast majority of the 6k+ MJ-death domains registered following his death.

 

[danBoT]

ads placed on it means your squatting sorry

 

[tkstark]

The question of morals is still at play but there is no comparison of PapaRoach.net & MichaelJacksonAutopsyPhotos.com other than that they have a popular entity's name in them. I suppose you can argue that both domains are in "bad faith." That depends on your moral compass. That had been the issue this thread has been debating. In the sense of my site: I've made a venue where fans can go to learn about the band & whatnot. I am doing a good service for the ...

anyone who seeks to be moral arbiter (and a loud, angry, noncompromising one at that) needs to be without reproach. when you start defending yourself by saying "that depends on your moral compass," well,...sorry, but you're toast.

if you acknowledge, mr. pendleton, that your own "moral compass" may be questioned and possibly found by others to be lacking, you kind of lose the authority to condemn anyone else.

I'm not saying that the person who registered MichaelJacksonAutopsyPhotos.com shouldn't be condemned but you are not the person to do it. your team needs a new champion.

"Let ye who is without blame..." and all that.

One, maybe two, over the top posts i can understand. but when people can go on for days about how immoral and unethical someone else is without once stopping to examine him or her self...

that person is without shame.

and to say that your blatant tm violation is "the equivalent of reuters reporting the news"...

please, mr. pendleton, say that you're had one beer too many tonight and pack it in. and do not inflict us any more with your...

 

[Archangel]

ads placed on it means your squatting sorry

I really might not be aware of this: I assumed (assuming isn't my strongest suit) that your usage of "squatting" is a reference to cybersquatting. Are you saying that I'm cybersquatting? Because if it is: Then I'm innocent of the charge. This isn't what cybersquatting is unless the definition was amended to. I haven't even used the term in years.

 

[Archangel]

"Calling the kettle back" comes to mind.

Is what I'm doing perfectly okay? No. Am I any better than the MJ death-domainers out there? Probably not. I am not holier-than-thou and I've never said that I was. I made a post a few pages back about "asshole domainers." And I've made a nice long post in a similar thread a month back. I'm telling you right now that the point is: Some ppl will see you as a businessman and others as an asshole. And yes -- there are ppl who see me as the latter. I'm perfectly aware of that. But most of these ppl see syndicates as assholes too.

What it boil down to -- making money off a living entity or a dead entity. That's how some see it. But morals kick in: MichaelJacksonAutopsyPhotos.com is a tasteless domain while PapaRoach.net isn't. That cannot be argued so don't bother replying to me about it. EGO -- Everyone's got opinions. But I am in the right ground to call these domaners assholes and call myself legit.

I won't address this any further since it's all the same thing typed out a billion ways, only reworded. I'm as big an ass as many syndicates but I'm tasteful. There's the difference: I didn't acquire the domain the moment the band made headlines so as to profit from them. And even THAT can be argued. But you are not right. I am not right. It'd be stupid to think that we are right on this issue. All we can do is go by belief. So ppl can believe that I'm as bad as the death-domainers. EGO. My moral compass points in the right direction but not everyone uses the same compass. Example? The ones who believe MichaelJacksonAutopsyPhotos.com is tasteful.

anyone who seeks to be moral arbiter (and a loud, angry, noncompromising one at that) needs to be without reproach. when you start defending yourself by saying "that depends on your moral compass," well,...sorry, but you're toast.

if you acknowledge, mr. pendleton, that your own "moral compass" may be questioned and possibly found by others to be lacking, you kind of lose the authority to condemn anyone else.

I'm not saying that the person who registered MichaelJacksonAutopsyPhotos.com shouldn't be condemned but you are not the person to do it. your team needs a new champion.

"Let ye who is without blame..." and all that.

One, maybe two, over the top posts i can understand. but when people can go on for days about how immoral and unethical someone else is without once stopping to examine him or her self...

that person is without shame.

and to say that your blatant tm violation is "the equivalent of reuters reporting the news"...

please, mr. pendleton, say that you're had one beer too many tonight and pack it in. and do not inflict us any more with your...

 

[goodkarmaco]

Fools gold

To me the debate is more about quality. Michaeljacksonautopsy can only hope to make chump change and most of that change will be pennies.

Why talk about some of these lame names?. They cannot possibly ever have a market. Those lame names talked about here have been regged by NEWBIES.


If names of famous people are regged then domainers need to get smart about it.

Heres an example of a domaiiner who is not a dumbshit, "themichaeljacksonstory.com" That name is qauranteed tol sell and will make some traffic ppc money too. It has quality attached to it. It will forever be a movie. If the domainer can't sell that name then domaining is dead.

Go get em boys and girls.

 

[ThreeD]

I'm not going to jump into this discussion, but I was over at ebay today looking at some of the MJ domains that are for sale. Sheesh, all I can say to the people with current listings is -> Get a grip!

I simply can't understand why people even think they could sell their crap MJ domains for a $10,000,000 BIN. You can literally find pages and more pages with crap domains up for sale. I always knew things had worsened in the domain industry, but I had no clue that it was THIS bad.

Back in the days domaining was all about quality, today it seems much more like everything is about quantity. People register the worst crap they can come up with just to make a couple of dimes above reg fee.

Some people really need to reevaluate their investments and portfolios.

 

[steveteva]

Yep but as you see these people selling on ebay for $$$$$$$$$$$ have no intention to sell it for real as anyway nobody will buy but I think it's for for them to make them famous and some domains were in articles on serious national and international newspaper, this is free advertising for them.

I do own a mj domain but not about his death or anything immoral, I like his music and wanted to have a domain as a MJ collector so I reg mickael jackson albums dot info where I will build a personal website, of course if family of MJ have filled Trade mark on mj names, I'll just drop it. I think they should control his image (trademark, copyright) as soon as possible because I see people using his image (tshirts, websites, other stuff) without givingany royalty fees to MJ families and they do whatever they want that can also be immoral. I saw a tv report months ago about marylin monroe and they have a army of lawyers that track all product, you won't find 1 product on the market that was not been authorized by marilyn monroe lawyers and owner of his mark. Everyone use her name, image... must pay royalties. MJ is loosing big big money since his death with illegal side products.

 

[danBoT]

Thanks for the + rep guys

 

[akcampbell]

99.99% of the Michael Jackson domains registered in the last couple of weeks are complete tosh and have absolutely no chance of selling. Go to dnsaleprice.com and look up "Monroe", "Diana", ""Cobain", "Hutchence", "Dean", "JFK". etc etc, there are virtually no sales. What are people planning to sell, an Amazon affiliate book or CD for every 1,000 visitors when they will only ever get 100? The collective stupidity and greed is staggering.

 

[tech4]

The hype in MJ's domain name is probably my guess, a marketing technique by family members who has a piece of the pie. Weather or not in MJ's will, they will benefit from public attention, more people remembering MJ.

so my guess is, the majority of the registration with hopes of selling in tens of thousands/millions at ebay are "FAKE!"

Probably there are those who register them to make potential profits.

back to my thought, the majority of the registration are fake, to hype up MJ's image and $$$$$

 

[vanbollu]

less money to register thus domains

 

[Gregg Hall]

Michael Jackson Names

To me the debate is more about quality. Michaeljacksonautopsy can only hope to make chump change and most of that change will be pennies.

Why talk about some of these lame names?. They cannot possibly ever have a market. Those lame names talked about here have been regged by NEWBIES.


If names of famous people are regged then domainers need to get smart about it.

Heres an example of a domaiiner who is not a dumbshit, "themichaeljacksonstory.com" That name is qauranteed tol sell and will make some traffic ppc money too. It has quality attached to it. It will forever be a movie. If the domainer can't sell that name then domaining is dead.

Go get em boys and girls.

I agree with you. ALL of the morbid garbage will go away when the fervor dies down. REAL products that can and will be sold are another story.

For example, I found out that several companies have plans to release Michael Jackson Dress Rehearsal DVDs.

Obviously the domains for that would be such as:

MichaelJacksonDressRehearsals.com
MichaelJacksonDressRehearsalVideo.com
MichaelJacksonDressRehearsalDVD.com


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[zacerwin]

I think I got a Pretty Good one, let me know what you Think..... LegendofMichael.com

Can be used for more the Just MJ if needed

 

[localexperts]

I think I got a Pretty Good one, let me know what you Think..... LegendofMichael.com

Can be used for more the Just MJ if needed

low search volume. not worthless, but not much more than reg fee.

seriously while people are regging MJ domains, real valuable domains are dropping that could be sold for $XXX to $XXXX with a little bit of work. I guess people would rather spend their time on a hobby than making real money.