.tv Marseille.tv sold on Sedo for 2500 Euro

[equity78]

Marseille.tv on SEDO sold for 2500 Euro, not mine. Argos and any other frenchman, good price ? cheap ?

 

[.tv]

Good price for a $1000/yr premium, IMO.

 

[b2b]

Marseille is one of the most prominent cities in France. Beautiful place!

If the seller owned this domain for a few years, then I would presume he lost money on this one.

However if the buyer was an end-user, then yeah great price!

 

[Argos]

Marseille is one of the most prominent cities in France. Beautiful place!

If the seller owned this domain for a few years, then I would presume he lost money on this one.

However if the buyer was an end-user, then yeah great price!

I agree, cheap price for that very popular city name, I notice that the current owner is a modest internet communication company located in La Ciotat, near Marseille.

 

[kemjika11]

the buyer went bargain hunting. 2x reg fee? hm........do i hear a sale?

 

[Jeff]

Marseille is one of the most prominent cities in France. Beautiful place!

If the seller owned this domain for a few years, then I would presume he lost money on this one.

However if the buyer was an end-user, then yeah great price!

^ Agreed ... does anyone know the buyer's development plans? :blink:

Absent compelling development and factoring the hefty annual renewal fee ... it'll likely be another money loser for the (new) purchaser IMHO.
-Jeff

 

[MillersCrossing]

its hardly been a week!!

 

[.tv]

^ Agreed ... does anyone know the buyer's development plans? :blink:

Absent compelling development and factoring the hefty annual renewal fee ... it'll likely be another money loser for the (new) purchaser IMHO.
-Jeff

Jeff,

DE.TV was sold for $21,500 which was a $3000/Yr premium.

Report.TV was sold for over 1.5k, which was a $500/Yr premium.

The premium name Education.TV was sold for $xx,xxx.

Millers own SanJose.TV which is a $500 premium, I know, he rejected a few offers in the mid $xx,xxx range.

If you have no actual experience in buying premium .TVs or .TVs at least, please refrain from posting "IMHO", "Another Loser" or similar statements.

We know the premium pricing is unjustifiable on a few names, but not for all.

Johntv, Millers, Equity78, Michaeldotcom, Stoneroses, Argos, Qoof, Fleaking, Discovernow, and a few others have heavily invested in many premium .TV names. I'm sure that their portfolios will worth hundreds of thousands within a few years.

 

[Jeff]

By agreeing with b2b, I stated above that the domain name IN THIS TOPIC was "However if the buyer was an end-user, then yeah great price" :gl: ... with the caveat that it would need development, IMHO. "Marseille" is not on par with DE, Report, or even Education ... and, again, absent development it'll likely lose money over the next few years (due, in major part, to the hefty annual renewal fee) as b2b pointed out - it would also require the common alternate spelling "Marseilles" as a complement, as well! :yell: :imho:

Good Luck to those investing heavily in many premium .TV names! :music:
-Jeff

 

[jeffoverman]

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[.tv]

Jeff,

I think you don't have any premium .TV names, especially premium Geo .TV names.

Geo names work well with the .TV extension, next to .com, IMO.

"Marseille" is the local name (French), and it is the most widely used spelling in France. Unlike other one word premium names, geo names get type-ins from the corresponding locations. Development will boost the sale price, but it is not a mandatory one to sell the names.

The sale of England.TV is a good example.

England.TV was sold for $50,000, and it was a $5,000/Yr premium.

It was not developed when sold.

it'll likely lose money over the next few years (due, in major part, to the hefty annual renewal fee)

How the owner of a premium Geo.TV will lose the money if the value of prime geo.tv names increase over years? More the years he keeps the name, more he will get, IMO.

Try contacting premium U.S Geo .TV owners, and they wont even respond to low $XXX,XXX offers.

it would also require the common alternate spelling "Marseilles" as a complement, as well! :yell: :imho:

LOL, tell me how many Geo owners own the alternate spellings?

Does the owner of Germany.com own Deutschland.com or vice versa?

Does the owner of Sweden.com own Sverige.com or vice versa?

Does the owner of Norway.com own Norge.com or vice versa?

 

[Jeff]

I think you don't have any premium .TV names, especially premium Geo .TV names.

I wasn't aware that was a pre-requisite for posting my opinions here, IMHO.

I agree that - with compelling development - Geo names can work with the ".TV" extension, but the sometimes very hefty annual renewal fees must be a consideration! "Marseille", again, is not on par with "England". :red:

How the owner of a premium Geo.TV will lose the money if the value of prime geo.tv names increase over years? More the years he keeps the name, more he will get, IMO.

In the case of Marseille, from the hefty annual $1,000/renewal fees ... the topic here is still "Marseille.TV", correct? :blink:

LOL, tell me how many Geo owners own the alternate spellings?

Does the owner of Germany.com own Deutschland.com or vice versa?

Does the owner of Sweden.com own Sverige.com or vice versa?

Does the owner of Norway.com own Norge.com or vice versa?

Back on topic, please Google both "Marseille" and "Marseilles" ... in the interests of development, one would need both spellings in my view. :gl:
Regards,
-Jeff

 

[.tv]

I wasn't aware that was a pre-requisite for posting my opinions here, IMHO.

Every educated opinion is greatly appreciated.

I agree that - with compelling development - Geo names can work with the ".TV" extension, but the sometimes very hefty annual renewal fees must be a consideration! "Marseille", again, is not on par with "England". :red:

$1000/yr Marseille.TV is on par with $5,000/Yr England.TV

Back on topic, please Google both "Marseille" and "Marseilles" ... in the interests of development, one would need both spellings in my view. :gl:
Regards,
-Jeff

Jeff, You made my day.

I request you to stop posting in areas where you don't have any experience or have no interest at all. Better try welcoming newcomers to .Mobi forum, instead of wasting your time by posting nonsense.

 

[Jeff]

Every educated opinion is greatly appreciated.

I've lost real money with ".TV's" with very hefty annual renewal fees ... probably investing in them before most here knew it was actually a ccTLD (for Tuvalu), and I wouldn't want new or newer members to our #1 Namepros™ to make those same mistakes, IMHO.

$1000/yr Marseille.TV is on par with $5,000/Yr England.TV

Undeveloped, the quality of England.TV ... is far superior to that of Marseille(s).TV! :gl:

Jeff, You made my day.

Great, thanks for staying on topic in the future! :talk:
Onward and upward.
-Jeff

 

[.tv]

I've lost real money with ".TV's" with very hefty annual renewal fees ... probably investing in them before most here knew it was actually a ccTLD (for Tuvalu)

It was your fault. You might have bought a below average name, or failed to market the name in a proper way. As you said earlier, if development was the prime key, you could have discussed with similar .TV owners about developing your premium .TV name, instead of blaming the cctld now!

We have discussed this issue here several times. Premium .TV names DO NOT work as expected for flipping within months. Premium names are for long-term investors or for people who have long-term development plans.

There are hundreds of thousands of names dropping everyday, it doesn't mean the domain industry is not favorable for domainers.

Don't buy premiums if you can't afford the renewals or if you have no plans to develop.

 

[MillersCrossing]

^ Agreed ... does anyone know the buyer's development plans? :blink:

Absent compelling development and factoring the hefty annual renewal fee ... it'll likely be another money loser for the (new) purchaser IMHO.
-Jeff

Jeff,

.TV was actually quoting a little from a post I made last night as I was fed up with your constant mantra as to the "huge" renewals for a 1k reg & another money loser.....comments

However, after writing my post for 10 minutes or so - I thought to myself...you know what - why bother??!!

And so I deleted everything and just stated "its only been a week!!"

Obviously the mods get to read what i posted - even if it was deleted and changed!!

Jeff,

You have always come across as fair and I hardly ever post on NP anymore, but your flippant attitude by putting all premos in the same box - or at least a very broad statement to that effect, finally got on my tits....

And so, I will recount just a little of what I said since .tv made mention of it....

PREMOS - I currently own premos all the way from $250 through to $1000.

I have also sold premos - anywhere from $500 per year to $5000 per year.

Overall, in the two years I have been domaining and concentrating only in .tv, i have made a profit of really really close to 100k just from premos - my next premo sale will almost definately take me over that 100k mark...

I have also lost around $1500 on four premos; some dropped and some sold at a lost - Queens.TV ($500) Guns.Tv ($500), Waikiki.Tv ($1000 owned jointly) & Oman.Tv ($1000) owned jointly

NON PREMOS - I have made around $20k from non premos in the same amount of time.

TV.COM - I have also made around $11k from tv.coms

DO you see a pattern forming??

If you choose well, no matter what the renewal, you can make money and a lot of it

And if I was to sell my portfolio of existing premos tomorrow in a firesale, I am sure I could make another $25k minimum - thats domainer to domainer sales

I am not alone in any way..

JOHNTV, SKG, MCB, KAM,FLEAKING, ARGOS, RL, EQUITY, (remember ROY??!!)& many more whom I am forgetting to mention (please forgive me)and MANY PLAYERS both on this board and off this board who have chosen to be silent on their .tv premo profits...

Then there is a huge class of players who have not YET made huge returns on their premos because the right end user (read established and profitable company)has not yet come along....

As equity has stated - there is no bad domain ext - just domainers making poor choices........

 

[Jeff]

The topic here is Marseille.tv ...

:hi:

I simply agreed with b2b's statement in this instance of Marseille(s).TV; "if the seller owned this domain for a few years, then I would presume he lost money on this one", IMHO. :blink:

Thanks for your perspective and Good Luck with your sales, but on the topic of this premium ".TV" (not all premium ".TV's"), again, absent compelling development, it'll likely lose money over the next few years (due, in major part, to the hefty annual renewal fee) as has been previously pointed out here in the thread.
I still believe that some, like "Marseille(s)", premium .TV's have potential ... if properly developed! :music:

Kind regards,
-Jeff

 

[steveteva]

Mostly when someone buys a premium GEO TV it's a end user for developing so $1000 or more in renewal fee is not even a question to ask for a company. You can see website like Tahiti.tv or hawaii.tv (these are small islands) and I doubt that these companies are saying "Hummm renewal fee coming soon $$$$$" but they are really happy with their GEO.TV, hey guys it's business here not domaining for them.

 

[Argos]

it would also require the common alternate spelling "Marseilles" as a complement, as well! :yell: :imho:
-Jeff

Lol who on the French earth would use a 'S' for Marseille ? If someone use and develop the name this will be done in French as Marseille.tv, MarseilleS.tv does not work at all, no one would search/type this complement as you would do in English for example BostonS.tv.

 

[Jeff]

Lol who on the French earth would use a 'S' for Marseille ? If someone use and develop the name this will be done in French as Marseille.tv, MarseilleS.tv does not work at all, no one would search/type this complement as you would do in English for example BostonS.tv.

I've been to Marseilles ... and the point would not be to attract people from Marseilles, it would be to promote Marseille(s).TV as a destination - to folks - even non french speaking - both within and outside of the region, IMHO. :gl:

The "Marseille" domain name in this respect is inherently problematic!
-Jeff