Mail.RU Public IPO london Stock Exchange $About 1 Billion USD

[tech4]

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2010-...orders-for-stock-close-to-top-end-of-ipo.html

Who said Domain Names and Internet businesses can't be replicated elsewhere?

Its been certain that in China there's BaiDu (bigger than Google over there)

In Russia now there's Mail.RU, something like Yahoo and MSN where users can get free emails in the Russian region, play games, watch news and share information online. The company valued itself at $5.7 Billion USD

Previously it sold IPO stocks at about $1 Billion USD worth of stocks at the London Stock Exchange to mostly US and UK investors (it was about $876 million but prices shot up, by 50%+, so now its valued at over $1 Billion USD)

The world of online investment is exciting, and is getting bigger everyday, we have in America, UK, Europe, and now its moving to Russia and Asia.

This is huge in terms of Market Potential elsewhere and ability to make money not just inside the US or the EU. Asia and Russia are not on the radar for Technological growth (most of us wont' care to think) but its happening right now!

Who knows, in 2020 some might say, "I wish I was there in Russia and Asia".

Don't forget those .Asia names!

 

[Kate]

Don't forget those .Asia names!

You mean they are actually worth anything ?

 

[tech4]

I mean there are markets outside America and Europe.

So, yes.

 

[mwzd]

:lol:

How does a mail.ru ipo in lse actually have something to do w/ .asia?

And you're really going to hold them till 2020? Wow, there's one born every minute.

 

[tech4]

If you read the link from Bloomberg.com, it’s a developed site, with millions of subscribers and is providing a service in Russia.

I stated that, there are markets outside America and Europe for developed services. I think you misunderstood the term market for “domaining”.

I can understand why, you have that perspective.

 

[labrocca]

I have mail.ru blocked on all my sites.

 

[snoop]

Means nothing for .asia or domains.

.asia domains are still largely worthless, invest in them at your peril.

 

[tech4]

I have mail.ru blocked on all my sites.

Do you have spam from mail.ru ?
Are they blocking you?

 

[Archangel]

I get about 70,000 spams from mail.ru and other .ru sites daily, it seems. If I see a .ru, I automatically assume it's scam or spammy. I've never visited a .ru site.

Do you have spam from mail.ru ?
Are they blocking you?

 

[tech4]

That's strange. You must some how have something that gets 70,000 emails from them a day.

(if you don't mind sharing what's that).

I have like 10 email accounts (I only use like 4 frequently) and I don't even have a single spam from them yet. (fortunately).

 

[mwzd]

Who knows, in 2020 some might say, "I wish I was there in Russia and Asia".

The only reason that IPO was successful is because of their Facebook holding, which is a US based company.

Don't forget those .Asia names!

I stated that, there are markets outside America and Europe for developed services. I think you misunderstood the term market for “domaining”.

You tried to connect this IPO w/ .asia names, think you misunderstood what you said.

I can understand why, you have that perspective.

Do tell, I'd be interested in knowing more.

 

[tech4]

"The only reason why the IPO was successful because of Facebook" has no merit.

Here's the real reason:

"Mail.ru’s revenue may increase 51 percent this year to $301 million" which means that their revenue is already about $200 Million in the first few quarters of 2010.

They figured the company is going to make $301 million in 2010 (prediction) base on about $200 million revenue already seen this year.
They predicted that Russian Economy will grow about 4.3% while the US is only about 2.4%. Growth for Mail.RU revenue for 2011 will be higher with much higher users through marketing etc.,

I did not misunderstood what I said. I said there are markets outside America and Europe. Mail.Ru is an example of a successful service business outside America and Europe. There are .Asia names that can be serve in the same way (business sense).

Which is why I was referring to your mistake of thinking I was talking about domaining in a pure sense .Asia vs .Com etc. I am not talking about the commodity market of buying and selling domain names, I am talking about providing a service, a business outside the US and Europe.

But now its clear that your perspective is even narrower than I thought.
You think its because of their 2% facebook holding.
Anyway.

Now you understand why it sells for over $1 billion ? (this is updated sometime a few days ago, not in the original article).

Its not because of the Facebook brand. Its because the company can makes hundreds of millions in profit (possibly this year or 2011, but definite profits seen as results of current 2010 performance).

I hope you are a bit more educated now on why Mail.RU IPO was successful, its because they have a solid business concept, with users, and makes hundreds of millions in revenue already! Their profit ratio is very high in order to be very successful. You don't see money losing venture making it big in IPO.

 

[mwzd]

Assuming Facebook is worth $50 billion, 2% is worth $1 billion.

The fact that its revenue generating is icing on the cake, not the whole cake, neither imho would people in LSE be overly bothered about that, how many russian tech companies are listed at LSE, am sure some of them make more than $200 million a year in revenues (not profit, revenues).

And that still doesn't connect w/ .asia like you're trying to do, clarify all you will, but the intent is quite clear.

 

[tech4]

Here's something which you don't know.

The original $1+Billion IPO was for 16% stake in the company.

The IPO price was about $23USD/share, Now its about $36 USD/share. Presenting about 50% increase in value. Its profits is probably near the hundreds of million. Anyway, the public investor valued Mail.RU at about $6 Billion USD by the IPO.
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I don't know where you get the assumption that Facebook is valued at $50 Billion USD.

Facebook received $200 million in cash in may of 2009. Same year received another $100 million in cash to lease computer equipments.

Facebook has been a money losing business since day 1.
The question is when will it run out of cash$.

Your Facebook valuation is absurd. What's behind the $50 billion USD assumption?

 

[Archangel]

70k was a hyperbole but I think everyone pretty much knows .ru is a spam extension and nothing more.

That's strange. You must some how have something that gets 70,000 emails from them a day.

(if you don't mind sharing what's that).

I have like 10 email accounts (I only use like 4 frequently) and I don't even have a single spam from them yet. (fortunately).

 

[mwzd]

Google #1 = $80 Billion

Facebook #2 = $50 Billion

These are not made up figures, check around, facebook is the 2nd highest ad platform by impressions in the world.

 

[kriss05]

70k was a hyperbole but I think everyone pretty much knows .ru is a spam extension and nothing more.

How can you say that if you never visited .ru sites?

 

[Archangel]

Easy: I've never heard of another developed .ru site and all I ever see .ru in are spam emails, thus I associate every single .ru as scam/spammy. I'll surely find a good developed .ru site eventually but that likely won't be anytime soon.

How can you say that if you never visited .ru sites?

 

[tech4]

I highly advised against your assumption that Facebook is worth $50 Billion USD.

In 2009, Facebook valued themselves at $10 Billion USD, and Google didn't buy it. Google decided not to invest. Google said "No you are not worth anywhere near that!"

Noticed I wrote Facebook valued themselves, vs. Mail.Ru valued by the public investor. One is an opinion by Facebook, the other is a fact that the public bought the Mail.Ru company at 1 billion USD for 16% share.

Facebook opìnion of itself=$10 billion USD in 2009
The Public opinion of facebook =0 (not profitable)
Google's opinion of Facebook =not worth anywhere near $10 Billion.

Your assumption =$50 Billion USD.
Beyond absurd.

 

[Archangel]

Some of this is very bold to state ie FB having no value in the public's eye. But you are correct that there is a huge difference between belief/assumption and fact.

I highly advised against your assumption that Facebook is worth $50 Billion USD.

In 2009, Facebook valued themselves at $10 Billion USD, and Google didn't buy it. Google decided not to invest. Google said "No you are not worth anywhere near that!"

Noticed I wrote Facebook valued themselves, vs. Mail.Ru valued by the public investor. One is an opinion by Facebook, the other is a fact that the public bought the Mail.Ru company at 1 billion USD for 16% share.

Facebook opìnion of itself=$10 billion USD in 2009
The Public opinion of facebook =0 (not profitable)
Google's opinion of Facebook =not worth anywhere near $10 Billion.

Your assumption =$50 Billion USD.
Beyond absurd.