LL.com : Evaluation of country names and LL market

[dotnom]

I have found some exclusive resources to buy two LL.com's that are the initials of two known countries however this decision haunted my mind the last two weeks
Should i take them or not ? It's just like the daisy game only that it can't end
If i take them i will be off the domain game for long but i would have two great names. If i don't i may bump my head to the wall for the next years (and we all know how precious are the walls these days )

The names are good but really overpriced so i turn to you to give me your opinion about the price you think is right, the market of LL.com and the potentiality of such names

What do you think ?

 

[Pred]

well first question is how much is asking price for them?

 

[dotnom]

well first question is how much is asking price for them?

The domain options are few and i don't want to create trouble with specific info about the names. Let's just say that they are not at the budget of a low or average domainer

Let's start this way. What do you think it a right price for this domain category and what do you think of them as an investment or real usage domains ?

Do you think the generic business model of centralnic.com can be applied to them ?

The sub question to this is how profitable this business is (centralnic). I tried to estimate the value and the number of their registered names but i couldn't get any secure numbers

 

[irishmat]

any change of 100k each and its a good deal but please dont sell subdomains on them!

 

[dotnom]

any change of 100k each and its a good deal but please dont sell subdomains on them!

I see you're bored of subdomains or maybe having problems with centralnic ?

Generally i don't have problem with 3rd level domains
It's how we were trained to use the names
co.uk doesn't look bad to anyone for example
Also technically speaking all domains are subdomains of the TLD
All domains are real domains with their DNS ....
Some may have less or no typein traffic other no market demand but they're still domains
I don't consider the "official" registry capable to define the meaning of the domain

Also when you get a name you just get a ... name
The registry charge the registrar, the registrar charge you and that's all
You just talk your legs and walk from that point

What if someone starts to promote "your name" with their "base name"

I sense that i may be off topic with this subdomain discussion so i stop here
I will open another topic for this

Well ....

 

[dotnom]

Any other opinion ?

 

[michaelg314]

any ll.com is worth at least 100K. Only 676 in the world. the worst one will be worth 7 figures ten years from now.

 

[dotnom]

Well i don't know about 7 figures but at least that they will double their price. If you compare it with a bank bond (i know some up to 60% return for 10 years) you get much more
A very interesting note/speculation that i found (but for some reason now it's offline to hotlink it) is this :

Posted by Michael Tchong :
I tend to shy away from playing the role of futurist. But my job is to inform you of imminent trends. And a big question on the minds of many businesspeople these days is, “when will the next business boom materialize?”

Well, it’s becoming increasingly clear that we stand on the threshold of a great new era. One that will be marked by another huge boom, one that could quite possibly be bigger than the one we experienced in 1995-1999. How do I know this? Allow me to explain.

I find it remarkable that we’ve begun the past three decades with a recession:Recession Start-End President Party Affiliation
July 1981-November 1982 Reagan R
July 1990-March 1991 Bush R
March 2001-November 2001 Bush R

More interestingly, we ended both the 80s and 90s with a boom, each bigger than the previous one. Then I realized that the market had begun to act as if each decade was a giant calendar year.

Think of how consumers live each year. At the end of the year, there’s a major holiday season marked by a spending peak. A New Year’s hangover has virtually everyone making resolutions. The early part of the year is traditionally a slow period, characterized by belt-tightening, dieting and exercising.

Sound familiar? It seems that the business world may have adopted a similar proxy for each decade. I found confirmation of this hunch in Harry Dent’s book, “The Next Great Bubble Boom,” in which Dent writes, “Most decades start by consolidating the strong gains from the previous decade before moving on again, due to a recurring corporate planning cycle.”

Further corroborating my theory Dent asks, “Did you realize that almost every decade sees recessions, consolidations and stock declines in its first few years and that most of the gains are made in the second half of the decade?”

With the Dow topping 12,500 and money exiting real estate and flowing into stocks again, plus dotcoms like YouTube going for $1.7 billion after just 18 months of operation, we may well already have entered the next big boom. As I see it, 2007, and in particular 2008, 2009 and 2010, promise to be years of tantalizing opportunity

 

[italiandragon]

I think that LL.com are UNDERPRICED at reseller market simply becaus enot many resellers can afford their costs so sellers are willing to let them go for amounts that I woul dnot if I had one.


Take for example the value of average LLL.com which is now around $20,000

Then multiply it per 26 and you get $520,000

And then add the rarity factor which is greater since not all LL.com are ALIVE.

So, even for the crappiest one, like QX.com or whatever you think it`s worse, I`d put it at minimun $250,000.

In the next years , also I see their value going up like for all short .com

 

[dotnom]

Take for example the value of average LLL.com which is now around $20,000
Then multiply it per 26 and you get $520,000

Thanks for your post, just didn't understand what is the 26

 

[italiandragon]

Thanks for your post, just didn't understand what is the 26

26 ?

Ok, there are 26x26x26x26 LLLL.com

then there are 26x26x26 LLL.com

and there SHOULD be 26x26 LL.com but since some have been taken back by the registry, there are less than that.

 

[Malaysia]

They are so rare but sellers are letting them go nowadays ..i think due to the LH.com case

 

[michaelg314]

I don't think any seller is letting them go. Just don't park if necessary. These things are priceless, and I have no doubt will be in seven figures one day. If anyone knows of any available, shoot me a PM.

 

[DebX420]

What are the domains in question? Depends on the country IMO.

 

[DN48]

I have found some exclusive resources to buy two LL.com's that are the initials of two known countries however this decision haunted my mind the last two weeks
Should i take them or not ? It's just like the daisy game only that it can't end
If i take them i will be off the domain game for long but i would have two great names. If i don't i may bump my head to the wall for the next years (and we all know how precious are the walls these days )

The names are good but really overpriced so i turn to you to give me your opinion about the price you think is right, the market of LL.com and the potentiality of such names

What do you think ?

do you realize that you ask us if we suggest you to buy names that we don't know, at unknow price??

call a friend and ask him if you should buy a car from 1999, and refuse to tell him what model is it and the price, and ask him advices you'll realize.

I think that LL.com are UNDERPRICED at reseller market simply becaus enot many resellers can afford their costs so sellers are willing to let them go for amounts that I woul dnot if I had one.


Take for example the value of average LLL.com which is now around $20,000

Then multiply it per 26 and you get $520,000

And then add the rarity factor which is greater since not all LL.com are ALIVE.

So, even for the crappiest one, like QX.com or whatever you think it`s worse, I`d put it at minimun $250,000.

In the next years , also I see their value going up like for all short .com

AGREE !!

(my appraisal bot give these results: QX.COM = $400,000, $x,xxx,xxx for NN.com and $xx,xxx,xxx for LL.com with same letter!!!)

 

[dotnom]

do you realize that you ask us if we suggest you to buy names that we don't know, at unknow price??

call a friend and ask him if you should buy a car from 1999, and refuse to tell him what model is it and the price, and ask him advices you'll realize

I do realize that dn48 but you didn't read correctly the topic

I said i have this issue but my question refers to the generic market of LL.com and the price you think is right together with the centralnic.com usage business model.
It's a generic conversation based on a selection i have to make

 

[DN48]

I do realize that dn48 but you didn't read correctly the topic

I said i have this issue but my question refers to the generic market of LL.com and the price you think is right together with the centralnic.com usage business model.
It's a generic conversation based on a selection i have to make

anyways i give you my opinion, for me LL.com are gold, take them if you have enough cash and if the price is under my apprasail, maybe one day end-user will offer you million(s), good luck

 

[dotnom]

Thanks
Indeed are gold as you said

 

[DN48]

even its best to own 2 of the 676 LL.com than gold

 

[DomainMagnate]

The chance of finding an LLL.com below market prices is very low and as for LL.com there just can't be "bargains" around. All LL.com owners know exactly what their names are worth.

If you buy for development, or holding for a while, it may prove worthwhile.