.tv Is it the death of the dot TV forum...?

[mathewka010]

Hi All TVers,

Im not one to post many threads or respond alot on the np's TV threads however when it comes to reading the dot TV threads I love it.

Is it just me or is the np .TV thread dying??

I only make this mention as each day I log onto to see the new or updated threads there is not much happening at all!

Would love to hear all your thoughts!
Thanks Mat

 

[localexperts]

I will answer because it is not that simple. The DOT TV forum has undergone several changes. I think you see many DOT TV domainers losing confidence, leaving the DOT TV developers. Those developers are a tight knit group with communication beyond NPs. In most cases, that group is focused on development - leaving little time for NPs. In other cases, some have moved on to sites dedicated to development.

For the DOT TV developers, the recession, Demand Media/Verisign, and the number of private sales that go unreported - plus the perception that DOT TV has been given enough time to succeed - all play a factor.

DOT TV needs development. Type in traffic, PPC - all the stuff that works in the other extensions - probably won't work for anything beyond the top tier names in this extension.

Ray's departure - well Ray was the glue that kept the different aspects of DOT TV engaged. We need more active moderation. But active moderation can also lead to some negativity. Double edge sword IMHO

 

[MicroGuy]

I don't really think there's much to moderate any longer. DM, Enom, and Verisign have totally bumbled .TV in a highly competitive expanding marketplace. Until they get their act together, .TV will be on life support. I think more and more people are realizing that now and hence the lack of activity here. IMO.

 

[localexperts]

And that's the way it is, July 21st 2009. Good night.

 

[gr8trfoo]

I don't really think there's much to moderate any longer. DM, Enom, and Verisign have totally bumbled .TV in a highly competitive expanding marketplace. Until they get their act together, .TV will be on life support. I think more and more people are realizing that now and hence the lack of activity here. IMO.

I agree that the powers could have done a better job of marketing .tv to the end users but I dont think you can blame them for this .tv forum's woes. This forum is drying up because there simply arnt very many quality domains being offered and not very many people interested in buying anything. Theres no market. When the economy picks up things will be a it better, but this forum might not survive till then.

Personally I dont care what they do. I have some great .tv names that i intend to use at some point. They will make sense whether or not .tv has reached a prominant position in the public mind or not.

Now if I had bought with the aim of making flips then I'd feel pretty bad right now. .TV is not a domainer's domain and there wont be much money in it for several years. Longer than most domainers want to wait.

 

[freedom30]

It's the economy.

 

[donnied79]

I see every day good domains dropping.
Domains that are taken in worst extensions like .cc or .ws and it's all because of the renewal.
With this bad economy you can invest 4.500$ far way better than with a triple premium lll.tv or a good keyword.
And the obvious ending is that people start to ignore .tv and the forum...

 

[localexperts]

See my comments in the other thread.

 

[garptrader]

The economy is adversely affecting many businesses and industries including domainers with poor-quality .COM domains. .TV can be criticized for premium renewals (not for domain flipping), higher-cost regular renewals (which still are more difficult to carry too many of), less favorable placement by the search engines than a comparable .com/.net and less active end user demand for the extension than .COM. However, .TV is not .biz or .mobi as I see far more companies using .TV than those extensions. But it is very true that .TV does not have the acceptance of .COM which is unlikely to change in the near future. It is difficult to juggle acquiring a domain portfolio and developing websites at the same time. The developers are focusing their time on development...

 

[frankiethepet]

Well, maybe the forum is dying but .TV is otherwise in good health.


BUT, you people who dont get this, get it now pls!

.TV is for developers

You have to start a real business with the domain name, a video interactive/television etc... And big companys are doing that, but for the average domainer... that is out of their league.

So for most part, reselling .tv is not a way to make money.

But if you look around you can see the extension is alive n kickin!

At least in Europe, guess its not that big in the US, but then again US own cctld .US is not big there either.

 

[saucey]

Because it's summer time and alot of people are on vacation... You should add that to your "poll".

 

[Kate]

The .us subforum was disbanded for lack of activity but it's not the end of the extension you know.

 

[MicroGuy]

I see every day good domains dropping.

It has been my experience that good domains RARELY drop.

 

[DnEbook]

i think unless youare developing there is not much to talk about

many are not developing

 

[snoop]

I voted for the first option that the extension is dying though I'd say that mainly in terms of speculator interest. It is still well used in the niche it occupies, which is latregly traditional televison related sites plus some online video usage.

As far as speculation goes people are waking up and realizing that between overpriced reg fees and a very limited enduser market there is not alot of money to be made in this extension. Lots of people are talking about developing, you can see the same thing in the .mobi forum as well, the reason for that is obvious. Most would be better fessing up and admitting they've lost money.

 

[gr8trfoo]

Snoop! Glad to see ya man!! You know that since you never actually called me on our "bet" you didnt have to stay away.

:lol:

I voted for the first option that the extension is dying though I'd say that mainly in terms of speculator interest. It is still well used in the niche it occupies, which is latregly traditional televison related sites plus some online video usage.

As far as speculation goes people are waking up and realizing that between overpriced reg fees and a very limited enduser market there is not alot of money to be made in this extension.

I actually agree with you completely. Speculators should completely let go of any notion of making money in .tv. For at least 5 years any way. Maybe 10. The fact is the more speculative buying that occurs the less likely .tv is to reach prominence. In case anyone has forgotten (or perhaps never knew this at all) .com got big BECAUSE in the early days it was the extension that anyone could get with no qualifying and hence became the extension everyone had and wanted.

Most would be better fessing up and admitting they've lost money.

The very greatest loss is failure to tried. Since I understand from knowing you here that you arnt much of a "bettin' man" pray tell what can you fess up on that count?. How many skeletons of opportunity loss might be laying in your closet? That would be a lot more interesting for most of us to hear instead of kicking the dead .tv horse over and over again.

 

[snoop]

Snoop! Glad to see ya man!!

The very greatest loss is failure to tried. Since I understand from knowing you here that you arnt much of a "bettin' man" pray tell what can you fess up on that count?. How many skeletons of opportunity loss laying in your closet?

I've posted many times about domains I've lost money on.

Here is a good example,

http://www.namepros.com/domain-name-discussion/567578-cats-net-just-sold-7-000-a.html#post3356712

Another recent one was JJJ.com.

http://www.namepros.com/429599-lll-com-sales-report-evaluation-thread-44.html#post3223520

Thankfully the are the minority. Personally I like investments that produde cashflow and most of the losses stem from overestimating revenue.

 

[localexperts]

I would vote for another one

"Because a minority group of dot tv owners took more risk than they could afford and licking their wounds because they are pissed".

 

[snoop]

I would vote for another one

"Because a minority group of dot tv owners took more risk than they could afford and licking their wounds because they are pissed".

That would not explain the widespread disinterest in discussion of .tv that we are seeing. ie you'd just expect a minor reduction in discussion if that were the case.

 

[localexperts]

Thats leads to the negativity which has chased away the blue blood believers to other forums.

It might not be the only reason, but it is one of the reasons.

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I would like to know when people started believing that regging a domain gave them a "business in a bottle".