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Hello frens,

I AM LAMBO of LAMBO.com and I will defend, defeat and humiliate those endeavouring to steal any of my domain name brands - including my moniker.

We have stood by in meek positioning watching poor decisions, one after another, rendered typically by "SOLE PANELISTS" - albeit with exceptions and inconsistency.

Digital assets stripped from legal holders and registrants who immediately (apparently), default to defensive posturing against Reverse Domain Name Hijackers (RDNH).

The injustice propagated against domain investors, speculators and BUILDERS - will not continue as it has.

In my case, a car company called "Automobili Lamborghini S.p.A." is attempting THEFT of my asset, nomenclature and taxonomy they possess ZERO rights to.

https://www.udrpsearch.com/wipo/d2022-1570

Counter measures to humiliate such endeavours are afoot. Unlawful theft will be duly punished through legal and commensurate counter efforts including any coerced and submissive accomplices.

Humiliation is inevitable should they desire METAWAR, even as the car company, NISSAN, found out with NISSAN.com
https://web.archive.org/web/20200131113518/https://www.nissan.com/

This is enough for now, I will continue to update as necessary.

In the meanwhile, you can add me on lichess (@lamboDOTcom).

We will save our industry from the filth that seeks to dismember it's legitimacy.

Thank you for time and God Bless. May the VRIL be with you.

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Ding.... Round Two. I wish you better luck this time. I personally I have no understanding of the law other than you are allowed to bring this case. Better luck the second time around.
 
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Lambo as a nickname should have died in UDRP process, never to be mentioned again.

How you got that nickname?

Well, when I was just a kid, I always wanted to get a Lambo, and I told my friends that, and... Uhmm, I cannot say that. Dang it!

Well, as a kid I spent my summer holidays at my grandparents coutryside house, where I looked after sheep. I told my friends that, and they suddenly started chanting: Lambo!... Lambo!... Lambo!

$50 million price. You showed other potential end users that can use lambo, but can you show us the one that can pay that much? Or is it just car company?

Let's assume acquisition price is $100k. Would you sell it to the wool products company for $250k? I don't think so. In the back of your mind you'll be like: man, I think Lamborghini would pay at least $1M.
 
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I mentioned this before but will word it a little differently in hopes that someone can point out a weakness:

For domains in general:

If the complainant never existed, is it reasonable to believe that the domain has value to at least one other party?

If the answer to that question is yes, then the complainant is in line for a desirable domain (trademark is irrelevant if not being infringed upon).

Is there any weakness in the above? I feel this needs to be discussed.
 
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For domains in general:

If the complainant never existed, is it reasonable to believe that the domain has value to at least one other party?

If the answer to that question is yes, then the complainant is in line for a desirable domain (trademark is irrelevant if not being infringed upon).
What would be a good name for this rule that could help trademark owners more easily understand when they should or should not start a UDRP?

Multiple Potential Buyers Rule?
More than One Potential Buyer Rule?
 
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Two more rules up for discussion/point out any weaknesses/naming of the rule. Note: I’m not a lawyer, this is not legal advice…this is a discussion.

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Price rule. The future price a buyer is willing to pay is not known. Offer price is at the discretion of the seller. Domain may never be sold.

For domains which have sold at the highest prices: is one able to 1. Know who the buyer would be before it was sold 2. Know the price the domain would sell for 3. Know the price the buyer was willing to pay 4. Know the highest price another potential buyer would pay 5. Know if a company will be created tomorrow who would also want the domain.

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Offering to Sale Rule: If the Multiple Potential Buyers Rule is valid and in effect (along with any trademarks are not being infringed upon), Offering the domain for sale to as many potential buyers as possible or only to one is at the discretion of the seller. Assumption is made that any potential buyers would want to know if the domain is for sale rather than not knowing.

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Moral of the story:

You don’t know who will buy a domain

You don’t know at what price a future buyer is willing to pay

If I am a potential buyer of a domain, I want it offered to me before it is sold to someone else.

If you want a domain, buy it if you can before another potential buyer buys it.

That’s normally what a current registrant has done.



discussion/corrections/weaknesses welcome:)
 
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Hello frens,

I AM LAMBO of LAMBO.com and I will defend, defeat and humiliate those endeavouring to steal any of my domain name brands - including my moniker.

We have stood by in meek positioning watching poor decisions, one after another, rendered typically by "SOLE PANELISTS" - albeit with exceptions and inconsistency.

Digital assets stripped from legal holders and registrants who immediately (apparently), default to defensive posturing against Reverse Domain Name Hijackers (RDNH).

The injustice propagated against domain investors, speculators and BUILDERS - will not continue as it has.

In my case, a car company called "Automobili Lamborghini S.p.A." is attempting THEFT of my asset, nomenclature and taxonomy they possess ZERO rights to.

https://www.udrpsearch.com/wipo/d2022-1570

Counter measures to humiliate such endeavours are afoot. Unlawful theft will be duly punished through legal and commensurate counter efforts including any coerced and submissive accomplices.

Humiliation is inevitable should they desire METAWAR, even as the car company, NISSAN, found out with NISSAN.com
https://web.archive.org/web/20200131113518/https://www.nissan.com/

This is enough for now, I will continue to update as necessary.

In the meanwhile, you can add me on lichess (@lamboDOTcom).

We will save our industry from the filth that seeks to dismember it's legitimacy.

Thank you for time and God Bless. May the VRIL be with you.

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This simply means god is not on your side. Accept your destiny and move on. You will get what you are destined for
 
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lambo,
enlighten us:
what has happened in the end?!

I saw, you listed your domain for....

$50,000,000?!

So, automobili lamborghini have not been able to catch it from you?!


Regards
 
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lambo,
enlighten us:
what has happened in the end?!

I saw, you listed your domain for....

$50,000,000?!

So, automobili lamborghini have not been able to catch it from you?!


Regards
Hello, there is an ongoing legal matter to ensure I am the Admiral as I AM LAMBO.
 
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I read the firstr page and thought lambo would win... and then i realized the first page is a year old, so i skipped to the last page... and found out lambo lost... wow... this is so sad.

It actaully depends on when Lambo acquired the domain name, tbh.
 
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Tbh, I don't think the decision is fair. Lambo was never PPC'd or targeted the car company as soon as Blair acquired it. But, i saw a screenshot that the registrar was doing that... but again, that's not Blair's doing, but the registrars.

The second prong, does he have an interest in registering the domain name? Yes. He could have argued that it's a popular brand used by 100s of companies, the car company being only ONE of them, and so he found it a valuable domain investment.

I'll probably forget this thread existed, but I'm just going to hope that he wins this. That would be a relief to us all.

The entire truth is that the car company did not want to pay him for hte domain... so now they're stealing it. It was parked for sale with no ads for their cars... it was basically doing its own thing in the domain industry without infringing on the car company's rights.

I fear, after this, even if the respondent wins, no one will want ot buy that domain, lol. They'll just fear that the huge mega car company ius going to try to steal it again.

So, it's actually a loss for both sides, but on Blair's side the most.
 
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DISSENT

Automobili Lamborghini S.p.A. v. Domain Administrator, See Privacy Guardian.org/ Richard Blair. Case No. D2022-1570.

Dissent: The Hon Neil Anthony Brown QC

Introduction and Summary

This panelist would dismiss the Complaint for the following reasons. The Complainant has a trademark for LAMBO and the disputed domain name is identical to that trademark. The LAMBO mark is the Complainant’s orphan child: the Complainant does not use LAMBO to identify its motor vehicles and is clearly not interested in using it for that purpose. Why would the Complainant want its prestigious and expensive motor vehicles referred to by the down-market name “Lambo”? It clearly would not. It should be noted that the LAMBO trademark was abandoned in the United States before the Respondent, also in the United States, registered the disputed domain name. A domain name should not be transferred to a complainant who does not have a relevant trademark that is in practical use. The Respondent also has presented an arguable case that he is commonly known by the domain name and he therefore has a right or legitimate interest in the domain name. Nor has he committed any act that amounts to bad faith in either the registration or the use of the domain name.

The Complainant also has trademarks for LAMBORGHINI. The domain name is not identical to that trademark. Nor is it confusingly similar to the trademark because, although some Internet users may think it invokes the Lamborghini name, the domain could and in numerous cases already does, invoke a wide range of goods and services other than Lamborghini. It therefore cannot be said that Internet users would on the balance of probabilities be confused in any way by the domain name. The Complaint therefore fails with respect to the LAMBORGHINI trademark. The Respondent also has a right or legitimate interest in the domain name and did not register it in bad faith. Advertising a domain name for sale to the public generally is not an offer to sell to the Complainant or a competitor. It is unwise and inappropriate for panels to enter into the question of whether the price asked for a domain name is high, low, reasonable or otherwise appropriate or inappropriate. A panel should confine itself to the jurisdiction conferred by the actual wording of the UDRP. That jurisdiction is confined to out-of-pocket costs and does not extend to the value of a domain name.

These questions will be dealt with in turn, but several preliminary issues have arisen which will be examined first.

The Complainant’s Supplementary Filing and the Respondent’s request for anonymity The Complainant’s Supplementary Filing

This panelist would allow the Complainant’s supplementary filing. The Complainant has asked for leave to file a further submission in reply to the Response and the majority of the panel has rejected that request. The Complainant had set out in the supplementary statement its opposition to there being a finding of reverse domain name hijacking; the criteria for making such a finding; an argument that the complaint had been brought in good faith and the public offer by the Respondent that the domain name was for sale. The statement went on to deal with whether the word “lambo” was generic, whether the Respondent was commonly known as Lambo, the expiration of its US trademarks for LAMBO, the use made by other parties of the word “lambo” and the Complainant’s trademarks.

All of those issues are clearly relevant to this proceeding and the Complainant should be permitted to have its say on them. It could scarcely have done so before the Response was delivered. No harm would be done by allowing the further statement covering those matters. The proposed further statement was no longer than two pages. This panellist does not agree with the Complainant on those issues, but it was entitled to put to the panel everything it had to say on them. Moreover, the UDRP and its rules make it clear that it establishes a process which the Panel exercises judicially and with regard to the parties’ due process rights. Obviously, panels must exercise restraint on what additional material they allow, but to prevent a party from putting clearly relevant, concise and limited material to the panel as the Complainant wanted to do in this case would be a substantial departure from proper practice. This panelist therefore urges the Panel not to take that course.

The same principle applies to another, and a major, issue that arose concerning the Respondent’s case and which will also be referred to later. The Respondent submitted that he was commonly known as “lambo” and that this established his right or legitimate interest to the domain name. The submission was supported by some, although limited, evidence. It therefore seemed sensible to issue a procedural order under Rule 12 to see what further evidence there was of the Respondent’s being known as “Lambo.” The Respondent is unrepresented and is up against a substantial firm of lawyers that represents the Complainant. Panels can help unrepresented parties by ensuring at least that they have a fair opportunity to present their case in full and there is a strong case for giving them some leeway in presenting evidence, especially if it can be done reasonably quickly and concisely. In this particular case, the Complainant had submitted that the Respondent’s evidence had come from “just three (rather unknown)” Internet communities” and it therefore seemed to this panellist that no harm would be done or delay incurred if the Respondent could provide some further information that might persuade the panel one way or the other whether he was commonly known by the nickname Lambo, as he alleged. This panellist is therefore of the view that if the procedural order is not issued the Respondent would be denied a proper opportunity to present his case and to be heard.

Respondent’s request for anonymity

This panelist would not accede to the Respondent’s request for anonymity. There is no doubt that there is power to redact the name of a party from the decision of a panel. This panelist has made several such orders. It is usually done in cases where someone has registered a domain name but has misleadingly given the name of a third party as the holder of the domain name in question, whereas the person named has had nothing to do with the registration or use of the domain name. The domain name has then been used for a fraud, but when the name of the innocent bystander is exposed in the panel’s decision, it would naturally be assumed that he or she was the wrongdoer. To avoid this slur, a panel will, in an appropriate case, redact the innocent bvstander’s name and anything else that might identify him or her, such as an address. But there must be at least a demonstrated reason for doing so. That is because one of the bases of the UDRP regime is that it is public and that the public have a right to be told what is happening in the domain name world. This is because the Internet is now one of the major forms of human communication and the public is entitled to know how it is being used.

There is nothing particularly magical about that approach. The UDRP process is governed by its Policy and Rules and all domain name holders are contractually bound by them from the time they acquire their domain name. The Policy itself, at paragraph 4 (j), provides that “All decisions under this Policy will be published in full over the Internet, except where an Administrative Panel determines in an exceptional case to redact portions of its decision.”

Those who drafted the UDRP must have thought this power was significant, as it is included in the Policy itself and then in effect repeated in Rule 16 (b) which says that “Except if the Panel determines otherwise (see Paragraph 4 (j) of the Policy), the Provider shall publish the full decision and the date of its implementation on a publicly accessible web site.” They must also have intended that the principal question for the Panel is whether there are circumstances that justify departing from the default position of full disclosure. So, the question of whether or not to redact part of a decision such as the name of a party must be exercised judicially and in the light of all the surrounding circumstances and having regard to the purpose of the provision and general notions of justice and fair play. Thus, in the present case, the threshold question must be: is this an exceptional case? The answer is no, it is not exceptional. No case has been made out to show that it is exceptional, and it does not seem to be so. Nor has any other case been made out to justify departing from the obviously intended requirement of publication of “the full decision”. It should also be remembered that beside the understandable interest of the Respondent in privacy, there is also a significant interest in the public in knowing what is going on in the domain name world and who is doing it.

Accordingly, putting all of the above considerations in balance, this panelist finds no case has been made out for redacting the name or any other information that could identify the Respondent.

Identical or Confusingly Similar The Complainant’s trademarks

On the evidence, the Complainant has shown, first, that it has two registered trademarks for LAMBO, one issued by the European Union Intellectual Property Office (EUIPO) and a Swiss one. They are virtually the same. The European trademark is registered with respect to “Vehicles”, among other classifications, and it clearly applies in the present case. The Swiss trademark also applies to “Vehicles.” It is, however, notable that the Complainant does not have a registered trademark for LAMBO in the United States, where the Respondent is domiciled. Nor did it have one when the Respondent registered the domain name, so how he was expected to know that it had two European trademarks for LAMBO is something of a mystery, especially when the LAMBO trademark in the country where he lived had been abandoned before he decided to buy the domain name.

It should also be added for completeness that there is no evidence that the LAMBO trademark is used by the Complainant or has ever been used by it to sell its motor vehicles or anything else. In the Complainant’s family of trademarks, it is clearly the orphan child, not registered in the Complainant’s biggest market and, although registered in Europe, not used there. And so indifferent is the Complainant to its orphan child that it abandoned the trademark and has not sought to replace it with a new trademark for LAMBO.

The Complainant also has several registered trademarks for LAMBORGHINI, not surprisingly, because that is the name of its well-known and expensive motor car. Nor is it surprising that for the same reason, the Complainant has many more trademarks for LAMBORGHINI than it has for LAMBO. One of the US trademarks the Complainant relies on is No. 74019105 for LAMBORGHINI with respect to “Automobiles and their Structural Parts” so it clearly covers the Complainant’s Lamborghini motor cars. As well as the single trademark for LAMBORGHINI that the Complainant relies on, it also has the US registered trademark for LAMBORGHINI No. 1622382 with respect to “vehicles”, and the registered trademark No. 1622382 for “cars”. It is clear therefore that the Complainant wants its cars to be known as LAMBORGHINI and not LAMBO in which it seems to be completely indifferent.

That view is re-enforced by the Complainant’s conduct since the new regime of generic top level domains was introduced. The Trademark Clearing House was established to deal with the very situation that has arisen in this case, namely how to alert the commercial world to the fact that companies like the present

Complainant own verified trademarks that should not be compromised by new domain names that trespass on them. As the ICANN website is in evidence, it is appropriate to look at ICANN’s Trademark Clearing House to see how the Complainant has handled its trademarks. The Complainant has registered LAMBORGHINI but not LAMBO as its trademark3. A search for LAMBO produces the result:”Your search yielded no results.”4It is clear that the Complainant has little if any interest in the word “lambo” when it comes to registering domain names. There is, for instance, no warning or embargo when one registers domain names like lambo.auto, lambo.car or lambo.cars.

Moreover, the Complaint does not reveal that the Complainant once had a USPTO trademark for LAMBO in the United States, the country where the Respondent was and is domiciled, but it abandoned that trademark on August 11, 2017, five months before the Respondent acquired the disputed domain name. This shows a distinct lack of enthusiasm on the part of the Complainant in having its prestige motor vehicles identified as LAMBO, which is hardly surprising.

Moreover, the evidence does not show that the Complainant tried to undo this state of affairs or rectify it by registering another trademark for LAMBO in the United States. Thus, when the Respondent bought the domain name5, the Complainant had abandoned its LAMBO trademark in the United States where the Respondent lived and put no other LAMBO trademark in its place. As noted, the United States is the largest market for the Lamborghini6 although the Complainant allowed its LAMBO trademark in the USA to expire and for no reason that has been given. In other words, it sells more vehicles in a market without the LAMBO trademark, namely the US, than it does in markets with the LAMBO trademark. No explanation has been given as to how or why its trademark for LAMBO came to expire. Whatever this proceeding is about, it is therefore not about the need or desire of the Complainant to recover a domain name that is transgressing on its LAMBO trademark because the Complainant is obviously completely indifferent to the use of its LAMBO trademark, even in its largest market.

Identical or Confusingly Similar

The Complainant must then show that the domain name is identical to one or other of its trademarks. The Complainant argues that the domain name is identical to the LAMBO trademark. It clearly is.

The domain name is not identical to the LAMBORGHINI mark and the Complainant does not argue that it is. It cannot be identical because it consists of different letters from the trademark and therefore does not sound or look the same as LAMBORGHINI.

But is it nevertheless confusingly similar to LAMBORGHINI? The Complainant argues that it is. This panelist is of the view that the domain name is not confusingly similar to the LAMBORGHINI trademark. It is similar, as there are enough letters in the domain name that are also in the trademark, and in the same order, to make it similar to the trademark. But is it confusingly similar?

There are three points here that must be understood. First, the test is whether Internet users in general would probably find them confusingly similar, not whether that conclusion is possible. The test is the balance of probabilities, as it is in all such proceedings and the Panel should not depart from that test.

Secondly, it is possible that some users would find them confusingly similar and it would be naïve to deny that this is so. No doubt there are some people who use the word “lambo” as a slang word or common patois to refer to LAMBORGHINI, in the same way that they might use the expression “Rolls” to refer to a Rolls-Royce, or “merc” to refer to a Mercedes-Benz. That does not mean that such a belief is widespread or

3 https://www.trademark-clearinghouse.com/search/node/lamborghini language:en

4 https://www.trademark-clearinghouse.com/search/node/LAMBO language:en

5 On 28 February 2018

6 https://www.best-selling-cars.com/b...ghini-worldwide-sale-by-model-and-country/and page 13/24 of Complainant’s Annex 04.

that it is popular or so common that a panel should regard it as the way Internet users in general see the word “lambo”. The Complainant itself certainly does not encourage them to do so.

Thirdly, whether Internet users in general would probably find them confusingly similar is a far more doubtful proposition. This panelist is not persuaded that they would. The main reason why he doubts this is because there is a lot of evidence that the word “lambo” is recognized as standing for goods and services that have nothing to do with the Lamborghini motor car and that it is actually used in those other uses of the word to mean any of that variety of other goods and services.

This can be seen from the original owner whose name was Lambert and it is entirely legitimate that the name would appeal to anyone of that name or anyone who had the name “Lambo” as a nickname or who is engaged in any activity that could attract that word. The Respondent was “first come, first served” and is entitled to the benefit of acquiring the name, particularly if there is a legitimate use to which it could be put, as is so in the present case.

The evidence shows that the word can legitimately refer to and is actually being used in the following proven uses, none of them being Lamborghini: it is used as a popular nickname, the name of a film7, a cartoon character 8, an Australian wool product9, a word derived from the verb lamber10, the US footballer Josh Lambo11, a model12, a given name13, a nickname14, lambswool products15, a variation of lamber16, a Greek recorded album17, the brand name of an allegedly rejuvenating cream18, Lambo vegetarian capsules19, and a collection of cult figures20 as well as the use by the original registrant John Lambert which may well attract others with the same name. There is also a current USPTO trademark registered on May 28, 2019 for use of the word for electric razors and a USPTO trademark application filed as recently as April 21, 2021 to use the name for teleconferencing. Thus, there is plenty of evidence to show that the word is used for a variety of goods and services that do not involve Lamborghini at all.

Part of the difficulty of being certain on this issue is that some Internet users would probably see the word as being pronounced as “lamb-o”, meaning that it is derived from the word “lamb”. Clearly some of the registrants who have registered “lambo” as a trademark or domain name interpret the word in that way and not as an abbreviation or slang word to invoke the notion of the Lamborghini motor vehicle.

In any event, and this is the main factor that has persuaded the present panelist to his conclusion, the Complainant could have at least attempted to prove its proposition by evidence on which the Panel could act, instead of the assertions made by the Complainant’s lawyers. Every day of the week, trademark owners in litigation prove the association of names by evidence, properly tested and scrutinized, of how the relevant public see the name of a particular brand. This is done by focus groups and survey evidence and is often accepted by the courts. But the Complainant has made no attempt to assemble such evidence in the present case.

7 https://www.imdb.com/title/tt7496048/

8 https://reborn.fandom.com/wiki/Lambo

9 https://www.tamboteddies.com.au/product/tambo-lambo/

10 https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/lambo

11 https://www.cbssports.com › nfl › players › playerpage

12 https://www.deviantart.com/1shinigami1/art/MMD-model-DL-Lambo-Katekyo-Hitma-Reborn-843592965

13 https://au.linkedin.com/in/lambo-kanagaratnam-419b346

14 https://liquipedia.net/starcraft2/Lambo

15 https://www.littlelambo.com/

16 https://www.thefreedictionary.com/Lambo

17 https://www.definitions.net/definition/LAMBO

18 https://oceanking.com.au/product/lambo-sheep-placenta-cream-24-hour-time-release/

19 https://labo-lambo.be/

20 https://opensea.io/collection/thelonelyfroglamboclub

Taking all of these facts into account, it therefore seems to this panellist that the Complainant has established that the domain name is identical to the LAMBO trademark, although the Complainant has no interest in the mark and does not use it. It is therefore inappropriate to order transfer of a domain name to a party that does not have a trademark that it actually uses to identify and protect its goods and services.

The Complainant, however, has not established that the domain name is either identical or confusingly similar to the LAMBORGHINI trademark, so as to show a breach by the Respondent of that element.

Rights and Legitimate Interests

The Panel should not find that the Respondent has no right or legitimate interest in the domain name.

The case against him seems to be that he has bought a domain name and has put it up for sale at a high price. None of that is a ground for denying his right to the domain name. He has a very clear right to the domain name and a legitimate interest in owning it. In substance, he acquired the domain name legitimately by buying it, which the Complainant could have done but did not.

The Respondent has kept the domain name and has used it only to develop it for later use until it is sold. In particular, he has certainly done nothing at all that would negate his right to acquire and own the domain name, for he has not pretended he is the trademark owner, passed himself off as such, mislead any Internet users, sold counterfeit goods, engaged in typosquatting to confuse the market, gone off on a phishing expedition or used the domain name for pay-per-click income or in any other way improperly.

As has been seen, the word “lambo” admits of many meanings and uses, some of them generic and /or as a common word used for a variety of goods and services other than the Lamborghini. The Respondent therefore has a substantial right to register any such word as a domain name and to take advantage of whatever he or anyone else sees in the name, at whatever price he can obtain, provided of course that he does not pretend to be the Complainant, copy its name or trademark or engage in any other impropriety, none of which the Respondent has done.

There being many such legitimate uses of the word “lambo”, the Respondent or anyone who got in before him clearly has the right to acquire such a domain name simply because it can be used for so many different, and legitimate, purposes. Such a person also has a legitimate interest in retaining it and making it available for that purpose at whatever price can be obtained.

In those circumstances the Respondent had a right to acquire the domain name and he has a legitimate interest in keeping it for sale.

The offer to sell the domain name

The Complainant has become agitated at the fact that the Respondent has put his domain name up for sale and at the high price he has been asking. The domain name is the property of the Respondent and his ownership should be respected. He has every right to sell it, at the price he is asking and at the price he thinks he can obtain. Panelists have frequently declined the opportunity to enter into the market and make judgments on what a domain name is worth and that position should be maintained. It is certainly not for the Complainant’s counsel to submit, as it does, that the price being asked is excessive or unreasonable and there is no authority for taking the view that such an intrusion is legitimate. The Respondent has not tried to sell the domain name to the Complainant or a competitor, but to the public at large, which he and every other domain name owner has the right to do. He is therefore not in breach of the UDRP Policy.

No active website

The Complainant is also wrong in suggesting that there is anything untoward in the domain name not resolving to an active website. The Complainant has submitted that Internet users will expect a website of the Complainant under the disputed domain name because the domain name is the well-known and popular abbreviation of the Lamborghini website. That argument has no merit and is not borne out by the evidence. Indeed, the Respondent has given evidence that he is a developer of domain names and that his practice is to develop domain names and then sell them, which he is entitled to do and that this is what he has been engaged on with respect to the domain name in the present case. Again, that is wholly legitimate.

It would be a very bold decision to declare in effect that a person who has bought a domain name and not engaged in any conduct that has ever been seen as a breach of the UDRP, should be deprived of its own property simply for retaining a domain name.

In particular, the Respondent says that he has a history of “engaging, outsourcing and contracting work to freelancers…” and that some of his work is “in an ongoing development stage pre-launch”. He has tendered an exhibit showing actual work having been done on such projects. That evidence therefore tends to suggest that the Respondent is truthful in stating that his plan is to develop the domain name for sale, which is itself legitimate. Moreover, that point is supported by the fact that the evidence is that the Respondent has “an established record as a builder and developer of domain names and …( has had) success as a domain name investor too”.

The Respondent has certified that all of the information he has provided is correct and the Panel should accept his evidence as such.

The Complainant appears to have has contributed nothing from its own knowledge. Its submission therefore is of limited value.

Commonly known

This panelist is also concerned about the way in which the major defence of the Respondent has been dealt with. The Respondent submitted that he has “an established online footprint and is known in communities and in a personal capacity by” the name Lambo, the same as the domain name. In other words, he raises the defence that he is commonly known by the domain name, which is a complete defence to the second element of the UDRP and hence to the entire claim, so it is important.

In support, the Respondent has tendered in evidence some testimonials21 from acquaintances to the effect that he was known as Lambo, which go some way, but only some way, to verifying his position and although they are limited in number, he has certified that his submission is “complete and accurate.” His evidence was not entirely clear, as it did not have the professional gloss that was apparent from the Complainant’s case that was clearly prepared by a lawyer, which puts the Respondent at an obvious disadvantage. It therefore should be remembered that the Respondent is not represented by counsel and is opposed by obviously significant professional representation. There is an obligation on panels under Rule 10 to “ensure” that the parties are treated with equality and that each party has a fair opportunity to present its case, and this must be particularly so when a party is not represented.

The Complainant replied with an unsigned supplementary submission from its lawyer that asserted that “The Respondent is not commonly known by “lambo”“. How the Complainant’s counsel would know this, one way or the other, or what was the basis of its assertion, was not disclosed and is a completely unsupported by any evidence. It then took umbrage at the fact that it showed only that the name had been used as a nickname “in just three (rather unknown) Internet communities…”. Three witnesses seemed to the Complainant not to be enough and it presumably wanted more.

21 Annex 8 to the Response

There was therefore a direct dispute on the evidence, generated mainly by the Complainant. On the other hand, the Respondent had said clearly enough and with some, although limited evidence in support, that he was known as Lambo, probably pronounced as “Lam-o”.

It seemed therefore to this panelist that in the state of the evidence as it was, it was appropriate to issue a procedural order to enable the Panel to test the assertions of the Respondent and elicit in the Panel’s own way and under its own supervision, whatever evidence there was to show, one way or the other, whether the Respondent was commonly known as Lambo.

It also seemed to this panelist that to give equal opportunity to both parties it would be probative to invite the Respondent to clarify some of his evidence. If this were not done, there was a real risk that the parties would, in the case of the Respondent, not be treated equally and would not have a fair opportunity to present its case. The majority of the Panel was not able to see its way clear to agree to this proposal which is a serious barrier to finding that the Respondent has “no” rights or legitimate interest in the domain name, when clearly he had some rights and may well have more. He may have some rights that could come to light only as a result of the procedural order.

The result is that the evidence has been left in an unsatisfactory state which is prejudicial to the Respondent but could so easily be rectified. It also potentially runs foul of the duty of the panel to ensure that the parties are treated equally and that each party is given a fair opportunity to present its case. The Respondent seems to this panelist to have been denied that opportunity, which compromises his due process rights.

This panelist would therefore not agree to order the transfer of the domain name to the Complainant while that issue remains unresolved and yet could be resolved by a procedural order that would clarify and expand the evidence.

That not being done, this panelist is unable to find that the Respondent has no rights or legitimate interests in the disputed domain name.

Bad Faith
Registration in bad faith

The Complainant must first show that the Respondent registered the domain name in bad faith. It has not shown that the Respondent did this or anything remotely like it.

The Complainant claims, first, that by buying the domain name the Respondent broke paragraph 4(b)(i) because he acquired it primarily to sell it “to a competitor of Complainant” (emphasis added). It does not allege that the Respondent acquired the domain name to sell it to the Complainant itself and it would be a very bold complainant who would claim that intention when there is no evidence to that effect. The Complainant therefore seems to have acknowledged that it is not arguing that the domain name was bought with the intention of selling it to the Complainant.

However, the Complainant has alleged that the Respondent bought the domain name to sell it to a competitor of Lamborghini. The Panel should reject this allegation. Why would the Respondent buy a domain name which the Complainant has submitted in effect means “Lamborghini”, but intending to sell it not to Lamborghini but to a buyer that does not sell Lamborghini?

Apart from being non-sensical, there is no evidence to support this allegation. There is also no clue as to who such an eccentric purchaser might be who would want to buy a name carrying not its own brand but the brand of a rival.

Secondly, the evidence and the only evidence, is that the Respondent advertised the domain name for sale, not to Lamborghini, or to a competitor of Lamborghini, but to the world at large on the general market. That is not prohibited and is not proscribed by any provision of the UDRP. Nor does it show that the Respondent intended to sell it either to Lamborghini or to a competitor. If merely offering a domain name for sale to the

public is held to be bad faith, virtually all sales of domain names would be prohibited, which was clearly not intended.

Accordingly, the Complainant has not shown that the Respondent wanted to sell the domain name to the Complainant or to one of its competitors or that it tried to do so. It has already been conceded that some users will understand lambo.com as invoking.

Thirdly, the Complainant says that registering the domain name is in bad faith because it is identical or confusingly similar to a “famous or widely known trademark.” If the Complainant means that the trademark is LAMBO, then that trademark is not by any stretch of the imagination either famous or well-known and many users clearly use it when they are specifically not referring to the Lamborghini motor vehicle. If the Complainant means LAMBORGHINI, the domain name is certainly not identical to that trademark and, as already shown, the public uses the word “lambo” to describe generic objects and a wide variety of uses that refer to all sorts of goods and services that have nothing to do with the Lamborghini motor vehicle.

Fourthly, the Complainant says that the Respondent knew or should have known of the “use” of its “trademarks. Again, if the Complainant means LAMBO, the Respondent could only have been aware in the United States, not of the use of that trademark, but of its non-use and the indifference that the Complainant had to its use. If the Complainant means the LAMBORGHNI, there is no evidence that the public in general would probably see “lambo” as necessarily referring to Lamborghini motor vehicles. But there is evidence that those involved in the many uses of the word “lambo” as a name or description of an object would probably see it within those meanings and not as referring to the Lamborghini motor vehicle.

Fifthly, the Complainant relies on the proposition that “(t)here is no conceivable legitimate interest for the use of the disputed domain name by the Respondent or the underlying registrant.” That is not so, it has been shown that there is a wide variety of actual legitimate uses that are made of the domain name which have no connection at all with Lamborghini. Offering a domain name with such wide legitimate potential to a wide potential market can hardly be described as being in bad faith.

The Complainant has thus not shown that the domain name was registered in bad faith.

Use in bad faith

The Complainant’s case is strangely silent on the issue of use in bad faith which it must prove. Offering a domain name for sale, at any price, is not in bad faith when the domain name may be of interest and value to a wide variety of potential purchasers within any of its many meanings of which evidence has been given.

That is the only use in question, as the Respondent has not used the domain name for anything else. Putting the domain name up for sale is the only use to which he has put the domain name and that use is entirely lawful, no matter what the price the seller asks.

The Complainant has thus not made out the case that the domain name was registered and/or used in bad faith.

The Complaint should be dismissed for that reason in addition to the other reasons already given.

/The Honorable Neil Anthony Brown QC/ The Honorable Neil Anthony Brown QC Dissenting Panelist

Date: August 2, 2022
 
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I did not look up the above case yet, but I note that you quoted the DISSENT.

He might do better putting up a website where the domain is used for legitimate purposes that have nothing to do with Lamborghini. For example...say someone had the domain ibm dot com and had maintained some kind of website that had absolutely nothing to do with the computer company and had been up for a long time, it is conceivable that such a person and such fair use could overcome an infringement claim.

In his case though he's merely posted lambo dot com FOR SALE and for a rather high price that implies that he is riding the coattails of Lamborghini and it therefore gets more sketchy as to whether this is fair use.

What I am saying, I suppose, is that this is one of those domains where he could get away with using it but perhaps not selling it, at least not selling it easily. If he does want to sell it, he could post the website along the lines of what I suggest and have something on there indicating that the domain is for sale.

Sorry but Lambo is just too close to the mark and is a common nickname for a Lamborghini.
 
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Okay I just read the case decision. I am coming late to this party and just noticed this thread for the first time, today. My opinion posted above was based on shoot from the hip thoughts without knowing the outcome, and, it turns out, was spot on,

For the foregoing reasons, in accordance with paragraphs 4(i) of the Policy and 15 of the Rules, the Panel orders that the disputed domain name, <lambo dot com> be transferred to the Complainant.

with the majority decision echoing what I wrote above, which I wrote before realizing that this matter had already been adjudicated.

What is the status of the case now? Did the lambo domain owner appeal that ruling?
 
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Just out of pure curiosity @lambo.com, if they came to you offering to trade the name for a base Huracan, would you go for it?
 
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What is the status of the case now? Did the lambo domain owner appeal that ruling?
You'd need to read through the thread, I arrived late as well. But, everything todate is covered. A fascinating read. You can't really summarise it. Sure, there's lots of comment and filler but, easy to skip. I hope Lambo wins his court case
 
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Yes. There is a case pending in Arizona. Lamborghini has filed a motion to dismiss, and it is one of the dumbest arguments I've seen in a long time. They are certain to lose that motion.

Docket here:

https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/64919795/blair-v-automobili-lamborghini-spa/

I post updates to this thread:

https://www.namepros.com/threads/la...nt-files-lawsuit-against-lamborghini.1281970/
Just fyi, @jberryhill is the most valuable member in this community. Each post is exact and spot on!
 
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