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I love the .biz extension but it's not looking so hot!

Labeled as .biz in gTLD Discussion started by Steven McEvoy, Feb 24, 2018.

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  1. alcy

    alcy Active Member VIP

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    hahah well.. you know hwo it is.. logic does nto always win in life.. and domaining is part of life.. neither does always win what we prefer.. like or love more... which is why its always best to leave our personal preferences or likings out the window in domaining :) what sells is what sells. whether it makes us happy or sad :)

    enough on that then... just remember... co > biz... ALWAYS.
    im not saying co is the best extension in the world. just saying its infinitely better than biz.

    cheers.
     
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  2. MapleDots

    MapleDots Domain Properties 2010 - 2018 VIP

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    There is a lot of wisdom in that (y)
     
  3. Kate

    Kate Domainosaurus Rex VIP ★★★★★★★★★★

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    Also, 'biz' is slang, doesn't look professional. What doesn't help is the fact that it's in direct competition to .com.

    Another big factor since the early 2000s is the shift to ccTLDs. Anything else than .com is just that, an alternative, never a first choice.
     
  4. gpmgroup

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    I don't think you should be so certain here, a .co with a matching famous .com can be a serious headache for any business, they would almost always be better going for some thing that distinguishes them.
     
  5. cooljub

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    The fact that 'biz' is a crass abbreviation of business is the turn off for me. Doesn't seem very businesslike.
     
  6. MapleDots

    MapleDots Domain Properties 2010 - 2018 VIP

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    Not so crass, it is generally a well accepted term

    Its on thesaurus.com
    http://www.thesaurus.com/browse/business?s=t
     
  7. MapleDots

    MapleDots Domain Properties 2010 - 2018 VIP

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    British Dictionary definitions for biz
    biz1
    /bɪz/
    noun
    1.
    (informal) short for business

    biz2
    abbreviation
    1.
    a business

    Collins English Dictionary - Complete & Unabridged 2012 Digital Edition
    © William Collins Sons & Co. Ltd. 1979, 1986 © HarperCollins
    Publishers 1998, 2000, 2003, 2005, 2006, 2007, 2009, 2012
    Cite This Sour
     
  8. bmugford

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    In general I agree, but there are times .ORG might also be a first choice.

    Brad
     
  9. creataweb

    creataweb Top Member VIP ★★★★★★★★★★

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    The .COM TLD means commercial (there is a .company extension too.) (y)
     
  10. MapleDots

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  11. jmcc

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    The original selling point of the .BIZ gTLD was that it provided an alternative to .COM for businesses. However, that plan went a bit pearshaped when the expected registration numbers didn't happen and the whole "gTLD for businesses" dropped. Now it is mainly a Chinese/Japanese gTLD with very little use or gains outside those markets.

    Regards...jmcc
     
  12. clasione

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  13. Jurgen Wolf

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    Per my experience with hundreds .BIZ domains during the past ~10 years...
    Waste of money and time...
     
  14. dordomai

    dordomai Active Member VIP

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    this reminds me of something
     
  15. FarOutBrands

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    I agree with you Steven, there should be more widespread acceptance and/or use of the extension than there currently is and no real rational reason for the lack of success/popularity. Especially considering the extension stands for business much like its .com counterpart (which stands for commercial) and is the first choice for many when starting a business.

    The other positive that the extension has going for it is that even though it stands for business it is generally regarded as a generic extension and is not specific much like other new gTLD's, limiting how I or others use the extension. i.e I can pretty much apply any name (keyword) left of the dot without having to worry about it meshing well or making sense with the word right of the dot (extension).

    However, I think the main reason why the .biz extension has suffered over the years has much to do with the fact that early on, it was used by a lot of individuals with shady business tactics e.g. spamming, thus developing the reputation as being a spammy extension. Once that happened it was hard for the .biz extension to shake that reputation, even though as of late it seems to be recovering from that rep.

    I also agree with others who previously mentioned that timing also is a factor in all of this. Possibly, if released later many would regard it as a top alternative to .com.
     
  16. BaileyUK

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    .Biz died the death of .info, It needs to be a Very top notch pairing to gain any sort of recognition in 2018.

    I took a chance with about a dozen .biz (same with .info) at the time of launch, never sold any,. and just about to drop the last one. I have to agree with the comment that it just doesn't read as a professional usage for an extension. but equally everyone thought dot info was going to be a very practical extension for a large business or company just for an intro site - What on earth were we all thinking, Scared about future internet tracking probably, these were after all still the internet growing days
     
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  17. BaileyUK

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    I am going to add, and I truly hope my American cousins can take my honest heart felt humour. when .biz came out, including during its pre-launch phase. I thought f*ck-me (dot).biz sounds really crass. I bet the Yanks are going-to luv it. best get in there.
     
  18. Silentptnr

    Silentptnr Hey From L.A. VIP

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    They are still selling though...

    telegram.biz 102 USD 2018-02-25 GoDaddy
    superb.biz 220 USD 2018-02-24 GoDaddy
    chat.biz 645 USD 2018-02-22 Flippa
    peach.biz 341 USD 2018-02-17 GoDaddy
    exchange.biz 510 USD 2018-02-14 Sedo
    each.biz 688 USD 2018-02-12 Sedo
    bob.biz 7,500 USD 2018-02-02 Sedo
    ex.biz 5,000 USD 2018-01-30 Afternic
    alpha.biz 2,500 USD 2018-01-18 Sedo

    million.biz 450 USD 2018-01-10 Flippa
    alcohol.biz 1,100 USD 2017-12-29 NameJet
    time-clock.biz 3,050 USD 2017-12-19 GoDaddy


    Some of those biz keywords that are dropping might have some profit in them. :)

    .biz has been weak for some time as investments go. But they are still selling.
     
  19. FarOutBrands

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    Well, I for one like the extension and would have absolutely no reservations with starting a business using the .biz extension. in fact I have an idea for a business/website and one of the names I have an eye on is a .biz. I disagree with some who say that the extension looks and/or sounds unprofessional. It is a commonly used and acceptable term in the English language, especially in the states but I guess that is just a matter of preference.
     
  20. BaileyUK

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    I agree Silentptnr, of course they will always sell for a 'niche' market bit like all the other hundreds of extensions - get the fit that fits at the right price

    as a side-story. I still own my registered company name in .com .(I'm long retired, since 50) I let the .co.uk drop the .biz owner contacted me to verify I'd let the .co.uk become available ( a flipper had offered it to him at a bargain price) I confirmed I let it go - so now it points to his .biz. but he won't pay a low reasonable amount for the .com. and this is a Global business (small admittedly) that happily pays probably my 'one-off' asking price each year, just for a fantastic global reach website on .biz.

    I'm never one to take the piss (well not in business comms) but even I'm lost on their logic
     
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  21. Daniel Owens

    Daniel Owens Upgraded Member Gold Account VIP

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    Your best luck is probably 3L Chinese Premium .Biz I mean if your going to bother to play with .biz at all. Even, better is to get some with vowels only if they are real words, something like cup.biz for example would at least make sense.
     
  22. MediaCode

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    In my observation, .biz in practice is used by small mom and pop companies or independent retail store owners who cannot afford, or do not value paying up for, a .com. It's an "also ran" extension where the potential end user buyers are budget challenged or otherwise cheap. Good luck with that.

    If it's any consolation for .biz fans, .business is not much better. I registered a few like turnkey.business and industrial.business and ultimately determined that they were all bad investments not worth renewing. No interest from anyone. What large company would want to buy, own, and use them anyway? So, I've dropped or am dropping them to reinvest the savings in better, investment-grade domain names.

    In the end, why invest in .biz or .business when you can invest in .com, the gold standard of domain name extensions?
     
  23. Daniel Owens

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    @MediaCode "...com gold standard"-you. That is almost true however, it has been hurt a lot by all the new extensions or as they call them NGTLDS. Someone can get Mike.Cafe instead of paying x,xxx for mikescafe (dot) com for example, it appears there is plans for the development of mike.cafe for the record.
     
  24. MediaCode

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    Exactly. Only a small mom and pop buyer would try to scrimp and save by buying Mikes.Cafe instead of investing in the much stronger MikesCafe.com which would benefit their business much more. MikesCafe.com is what most of their customers will type in relying on memory and their decades-reinforced habit of typing in .com into a browser. Most will not recall the new gTLD – if they even recognize it as a domain name – to type in Mikes.Cafe into their browser instead.

    If you are an investor seeking to maximize your return on investment in domain names, it would be better to own and market MikesCafe.com to a potential buyer than to own and market Mikes.Cafe to a potential buyer, all else being equal. Given that a domain investor's capital is scarce, it's far better to go with the .com despite the existence of the new gTLDs. The odds of a sale and of high ROI are simply better with .com.
     
  25. Kate

    Kate Domainosaurus Rex VIP ★★★★★★★★★★

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    But would you buy one on the aftermarket, provided your preferred domain is not available for regee ?
     

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