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I lose $42,000 on an escrow.com transaction as pdd.com, help please.

Labeled as warning in Warnings and Alerts started by American, Jan 9, 2018.

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  1. BrandMart

    BrandMart Randomhiker.com VIP

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    Enlighten yourself - https://dnstrails.com/#/domain/domain/3620.com

    As of now 3620.com belongs to:
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  2. tech4

    tech4 Established Member ★★★★★★★★★★

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    I mean previous owner information you need to pay for it via whois, is there a free one out there? I want to look at both PDD and 3620 previous owners' and ips for both if there is a connection.

    Simply random theft? Connection?
     
  3. BrandMart

    BrandMart Randomhiker.com VIP

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    3620.com previous owners. Ip can't be found unless NetSol share it.
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  4. WillW

    WillW BFY.co Blue Account

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    I'm so confused
     
  5. tech4

    tech4 Established Member ★★★★★★★★★★

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    So basically if the Registrar + Escrow worked together, everything would solve itself, provided that they provide information in the first place.
     
  6. BrandMart

    BrandMart Randomhiker.com VIP

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    Could be. But unless @American tells them and us why friends' names / accounts were used for the deal, nothing will work out. It's not too complicated to get an Escrow account or Netsol account thesedays.
     
  7. Lox

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    Sitrok = French last name. (spotted in Israel net also) With a bit of twist and never ending creativity #122
     
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  8. tech4

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    We may have something here, the funds transferred in this case was Euro and USD. So Euro must go to Europe, USD a partner in the USA or so?
     
  9. TERADOMAIN

    TERADOMAIN Top Member VIP

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    Hi,

    I will gather more info soon and share with all friends here.

    So many red flags from both side.

    Thanks
     
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  10. jberryhill

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    [​IMG]

    You are essentially correct. They also can't work together for a number of reasons.

    The basic problem, which is going to get much worse with GDPR implementation, is that the "sale and payment" system, and the "domain registration and transfer" system, are two independently operating systems.

    There are a couple of ways to tackle the consequences of that basic structural problem. One is to have an integrated registrar/marketplace system. The limitations of that system are that transactions can be authoritatively implemented only in relation to names registered with that registrar.

    Another is to have a direct channel between the registrar and the "marketplace/payment" system under which the registrar can agree to implement changes based on (a) party confirmation from registrar, (b) payment confirmation from "marketplace/payment" system. This would require a few changes to the registration agreement, and of course the registrar would have to have an incentive to do so, such as a split of fees.

    That would solve some problems, but not all.
     
  11. Argentum

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    Use next time their concierge service which is little bit more expensive but you have more chances not to loose tour domain or money.
     
  12. creataweb

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    You haven’t read the thread.
     
  13. Lox

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    GoDaddy/AfterNic waiting to top with barbecue sauce.
     
  14. kool1

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    Who knows what happened here, so many variables. If a domainer was really out $42k, a gofundme page would hit $42k in not time. We have all been there, and the core community is very generous.

    But, on another note, if you wanted to send $42,000 out of China, you couldn't because of capital controls. Or you could buy a stolen domain, have the money sent to a friend, and then when the government put the squeeze on you, you have this great story about what you bought.
     
  15. Nat Hunt

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    Say no more.
     
  16. Lox

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    Silk-ing road :)
     
  17. MapleDots

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    Hmmmmmm

    Where is op??

    American
    American
    American
    American

    By George I think he's left us :meh:
     
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  18. DomainBELL

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    record your voice saying something interesting for us...
    so we can HEAR you... (smile)
     
  19. American

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    when i bought 3620.com,i don't know the seller was a liar,i won't check the seller want usd or eur,this domain was auction at sedo.com,I'm already bought many domain on sedo,the money over $70000 USD.i think sedo.com will check the domain was safe and then show it on sedo.com auction,but when i ask him,they told me,they are just a trade site,don't care the domain was stolen or not.
     
  20. American

    American Established Member

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    this name is the same as I'm a Chinese,but i can named American,it's just a network username.
     
  21. American

    American Established Member

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    I want tell you,i'm a domainer,i buy domains and sell it,China domain market is very hot,i can buy it at today,and sell it tomorrow,you know what i mean,if you need,i can prove the proof that i paid for namejet.com or any you can find the domain under my name "yue er" or "lou zhiyong".
     
  22. BrandMart

    BrandMart Randomhiker.com VIP

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    We understand that you are a frequent domain flipper. What looks fishy is you used your Friend's Escrow to make payment. Did you use his/her account to pay for domain via SEDO too? Why didn't you make payment via your Escrow?
     
  23. American

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    The seller sent the first email to me and told me he is the 3620.com seller.
    i check my sedo.com Transfer Documents,it's the same email address. upload_2018-1-11_12-16-27.png
     
  24. BrandMart

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    lol.. both names are for same gender? Looks like Samuel & Samantha are same these days :-P
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  25. American

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    www.benmi.com

    This is China domain tool website that i used.
     

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