I lose $42,000 on an escrow.com transaction as pdd.com, help please.

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  1. American

    American Established Member

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    I don't have his real ip,He used a proxy server, just do not want me to find his true message.
    I'm already sent all transaction detail about pdd.com and 3620.com to NS and web.com.but it's not work.
     
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    American, did you ask Web why your account was locked? What was the complaint against you and when was it reported? So we know if NetworkSolution took measures or not before or after your sales to find out who the thief or just an IT insider that need quick money ??
     
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    I ask them day by day,but they just give me back onece or twice a week.
     
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    American, Post the IP (or cloak IP) maybe someone can go to that source and ask for you. Who knows. IF the thief is hiding behind proxy server, someone may ask that proxy server about a particular user on that day (particular day and time stamp) and it will reveal the source. If you give that information and time stamp of IP.
     
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    Cool. Now can you please post the negotiation email(s) you claim to have had with [email protected] regarding PDD.com...

    Without such email(s) being presented, it is unknown how you agreed on a price, or decided to use Escrow.

    This is the 4th time you are being asked for it in this thread...
     
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  6. American

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    first:209.85.218.67
    scound:74.125.82.193
    These two ip was his usually used that i can see it in my email.
    Time zone was UTC+02:00
     
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    My assumption would be that RBG.com was also stolen. Then RBG.com contacted NetSol (or vice versa), and the domain was returned to the previous owner, Rubin Brown.

    This may have triggered an investigation into Patrick Sitrok's NetSol account, where NetSol would have noticed Patrick pushed domains 3620.com, and PDD.com to OP. Then, they locked OPs NetSol account.

    Now, I am not sure what triggered what first. PDD.com could have first contacted NetSol, and that may have triggered RBG.com to have been returned to Rubin Brown. (or vice versa)

    One thing that may be considered when trying to determine this, are the dates. ie

    It appears WHOIS was updated back (from Patrick Sitrok) to Ruben Brown on 10 Dec 2017.

    OP claims to have been on vacation 10 Dec 2017. And on 11 Dec 2017, OP finds his NetSol account locked, and PPD.com had been removed from his account.

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    Provide your information with proof to the government of the country where that man reside. Also request that government for assistance related to this matter because indirectly it defames that country also.

    The registrar of the domain must investigate and help followed by any instruction of any superior authority(govt.).
     
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    How did you obtain these IP addresses? Can you please screenshot. Need proof to confirm you extracted the proper IP addresses...

    Gmail help forum has a hit (2010) regarding 74.125.82.193 -- "I want to know location of email sender by unkown user from gmail" HERE

    You will need a court order to subpoena Google for additional information behind account [email protected].
     
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    Might want to focus a search on Frank Slakmon (unless that is a fake name)

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    Here you go.
     

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    Thank you; an interesting read.

    I will make some calls tomorrow, and see what I can uncover.
     
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    VDG.com sells via sedo auction.10 bids. USA Seller. 2017 sedo creation date. upload_2018-1-12_1-32-37.png
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    A month later Patrick offers OP VDG.com for $16k...

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    On or around 7 Jan 2018 -- VDG.com WHOIS updates to LWCRST MRKTNG. VDG.com transfers out of NetSol, and into GoDaddy. Tagging GoDaddy reps @Paul Nicks and @Joe Styler so somebody from GD is aware...

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    Just a quick comment about privacy going on and off and on at Netsol, especially at weekends:
    Worth checking - is that a know glitch?

    I say that because there was a known issue at Moniker.com where privacy would spontaneously go off and on, like it was blinking repeatedly.
     
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    I'm not sure what you are asking? If you are saying you think the domain is stolen please have the domain owner contact us via his registrar who can let us know if the transfer was bad.
     
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    ... and how would I do that if I do not know who the domain owner was? WHOIS privacy...

    It looks like @American was sold a stolen domain. Possibly two stolen domains. And if so, whomever sold him those two stolen domain, also offered him VDG.com before it was transferred to GD.

    If it turns out @American did in fact purchase two stolen domains from the same person who offered him VDG.com, is it not possible that the third domain (VDG) could also have been stolen?

    Now, I'm not asking you to speculate on the above rhetorical / speculative question. In an ideal world, given this revealed information, GoDaddy stolen domain department, would communicate with NetSol stolen domain department. Though, GD prob needs NetSol to contact GD first. An important question to be asked (as I am not directly involved) is if @American had sent NetSol the negotiation emails, he just posted on this forum. Because, if so, I would think (hope) NetSol would have looked into VDG.com, seeing as it was also offered.

    Anyways, @Joe Styler, thank you for the quick response. Not sure if you've been following this thread, but I don't think we have all the facts yet.
     
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    I have not been following it which is why i asked what was happening. 11 pages is a lot to read. If a domain name is stolen and moved to us we need proof. That can come in one of two ways. The original registrant can contact the registrar they registered the domain name with and explain to them what happened at which point they contact us and we work on it with them. Or a governing authority can tell us to move the domain somewhere, i.e. a court /legal/ governmental order, arbitration panel like udrp or wipo, verisign, etc. depending on the various facts of the domain movement some or all of these could come into play.
    We take domain theft very seriously and will work with the right parties to resolve things.
     
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    Here's another scenario, if VDG is not stolen. That Patrick must be an IT consultant of PDD or works for PDD and also worked on a project for the accounting firm. Notice the distance, MO and IN are very close.

    So let's say VDG is not stolen. Meaning whoever Patrick is, he worked for both PDD and the accounting firm at some point, and that PDD may have sold it to him for years ago, and VDG also sold it to him cheap. He decides to make a quick buck, by reporting it stolen, since VDG is always on privacy for more than a year.

    In this case we may have a serial thief who is a real person somewhere in IN or MO, working for both the IT and accounting companies.

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    Basically domain PDD was reported stolen, and same person sold VDG, which comes to a conclusion that VDG must be stolen also. Now if Goddady say there is no report of stolen domain on VDG, which means that the thief is a legitimate buyer of VDG. And the approximate location of the two companies are very close, and base on the analysis done before that PDD is out of business or changed its business, and that someone inquired about PDD a long time ago but never got a respond. I think Patrick is a real person that probably is selling these domains more than once and reported it stolen so he can do it again. Because the email is @pdd or @VDG at some point.
     
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    Have you read the email transcript @American attached in a post a few posts up?

    It reveals some insight that may change your perspective.
     
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    I read the attached. Patrick said he's a broker for both domains, close friend of the owner.
    At the end, he signed as "Stas K" which I don't know, Russian????

    This now makes me think further, that there is an IT consultant working with both the accounting VDG and PDD the IT company. Somehow Patrick is that consultant or a friend of that consultant, so it confirms my thinking that there are 2 thiefs, and there is an insider! So according to Godaddy, there is no report of VDG as stolen. Which confirms that Patrick is a real person that is somehow connect to PDD & VDG and both companies are in close distance.

    And the whois for most part was private or @VDG or @pdd, which means, the thiefs were selling it and reporting stolen so it goes right back to them, and resold again!
     
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