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Hi,

Do any of you has regularly sell your domain to end users? If so, do you mind share with me in this thread on how find potential end users for your domain?

Regards,
Sjarief
 
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It's been while since I've posted here but I still lurk in the shadows to read now and then. I started like many investing in a few cheap domains then flipping then focusing on trying to sell to end users. I always made it easy for a buyer to contact me be that a good holding page or if the domain was parked it was with somewhere that had a buy now/communication box to make contact.

Eventually I became much more pro-active at contacting traditional endusers actual small businesses to large corporations 4 figure sales became entry 5 figure then 6 figure sales. However I soon decided to expand my company(at this point it was no longer a hobby for extra cash) to brokering with a small team I had under me and we help others close 6-8 figure deals and for the most part I do the majority of the leg work. So I hope those reading will understand this is no rookie advice.

I feel it's very wise to make yourself seem professional as possible when reaching out to endusers. If you treat the sale of your domain with the integrity and respect it deserves more often then not you will get it back even if it's just a one line response.
While I can't share all tactics I can mention the basics. Your emails should be short and to the point. Introduce yourself briefly and then the domain and the price. Feel free to mention if other parties have been contacted or even state you'd like a response even if its for them to say "not interested" many will do that.

Leave contact details of yourself in a signature in the email preferably with a contact number too.
It's always good to look for a companies CEO, CFO, Markerting Director/Manager, CTO/IT Manager and if the company is very large look for their General Counsel/IP Lawyer and message the highesr ranking person and CC the others 4 people max(including the main) these are the targets you should hit up.
Avoid "for sale" in your email subject or the price. " urgent: bla.com " can work well. Don't sound "spammy" in your email. Be Confident, Firm like this is just another day and the sale isn't that important to you if THEY buy you just want them to know.

Zoominfo, Domaintools, Linkedin and Mailtester.com will become your best bookmarked friends and that's just the start there are many other ways to find your marks.

One of them will read it and pass it on tho who needs to deal with a transaction like this or they may simply ignore it and not reply. Move on if there's never a reply within 1.5 weeks you can always state you need a reply within 5 business days if there is ANY interest in the email to stop "waiting".

Be firm with your asking price. Large companies are generally not scared of seeing a $10k asking price you'd be surprised. If you feel your name is worth $100k REALLY worth it deep down then don't be afraid to state it just make it clear you are open to counter offers if you are fishing for any offer. If they want it you'll know. They may indeed haggle but if you've inflated the price enough you'll have room to get what you wanted.

Don't get greedy unless you don't need the sale/money then feel free to play but know they can walk and never return.

Don't ignore any inquiry you get for your domains even if it starts low unless it's an appraisal scam. You'd be surprised how many emails that start with a $500 offer can turn into $300k with a little investigation and actually taking the time to reply. Working with a lot of investors with killer portfolios I know all too well how often they are tired of "fake buyers" that they ignore offers presuming them the same routine unless it mentions high figures. THAT is a mistake, you should treat every bidder with respect and politely decline and set them straight on what YOU want. You have no idea who they are or what they can REALLY offer.
If your domain is not WIPO bait then you can be "open to serious offers in x range".

Be prepared to move some deals to calls. Know what you are talking about because often they wont have a clue how a domain sale goes down apart from the fact at some point money is exchanged and so is a domain. Escrow for anything over $1500 imo unless you trust the buyer to use other methods of payment.

Be prepared to help buyers with transferring and payment process with step by step instructions if they are clueless.

I like a post someone else said about ideal times to email. Many staff members at companies get flooded by emails daily. Aim for their morning reads. Avoid contacting places on Friday you'll more than often be forgotten about. Mon-Wed is ideal.

The truth that needs to be said is many here are not cut out to ever hit it big selling domains. You need to take the time to go to that next level. I've read posts now and then on someone involved in this industry for 10+ yrs and they've never sold a domain over $2000. I and others did that in their first few sales within a few months and that was the start and we wanted more and we got it. We didn't stick with buying $20 names and hoping to flip for $500 (which is still great I wont take that away from you) but eventually you realise those names you see selling for 6 figures in DNjournal weren't bought for a few dollars. Not anymore.

Some of you will get lucky though. The few who spent under 1000 will get a lucky 5 figure deal or more randomly. It does happen.

Eventually you have to get your feet wet and spend a few grand on something you KNOW you got for a steal. Spending $5k on a name you know can get $50k for any day of the week and to some that's a tall order. To much of a risk.

So you play it safe or maybe all you can afford is a $100 to invest in a name and you hope to get $1k-5k and be content and you have your main 9-5 and again that's fine but if you want more then you need to see what the big boys are willing to do and what they're often willing to lose because you can lose.. badly.

Often you will need thick skin. I have been called a vulture , a thief, a crook by those who don't understand what you're doing.. "domains are $10 scammer" You can argue or just link them a dnjournal year to date top public sales and a polite reply that you'll stick with your crazy industry for your dignity. Keep it professional in my opinion and then move on never reply again to the next potential buyer. Often the person insulting COULD actually come back after mulling it over what's sad is sometimes these can be the actual CEO's. It's OK though I'll still take their money if they change their mind we're not here to be friends.

Don't let anyone get you down not even me. However if you've been in this game a long time and you're not making money or you need to copy someones methods word for word and can't have it fit your own style and your not in the black year in year out with your domains? Then consider stepping out of the game for your own good.

Good Luck. I mean that.
This is rich content. I am more determined to make it work in the do.ain industry despite being at my early stage
 
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So finally I have completed this wealth of information. Thanks to all that contributed to this training course. The practical journey to sale success begins now!!!
 
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Would like to see a sample af that mail. Care to share?
please share a copy of mail with me at collinsabu@yahoo dot com
 
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Hi all ,

i am following this thread , you people are doing great job, i have a domain

antivirushub.com

actually i am unable to find the target audience , can anybody tell me who are my target audience and how to get those emails.
 
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Difficulty = Opportunity

While targeting end users is difficult, there are many end users that need our help.

If we (as domainers) think it is difficult for us to find good names to sell, then can you imagine how difficult it is for end users to find good names as they don't have access to (or haven't found yet) the variety of tools we use to source names. Plus, finding good names at a reasonable price is even more difficult.

And herein lies the opportunity for us.

This is a terrific thread. I have read the entire 3,370 posts on this thread and reflecting it seems like much of the conversation is centered around outbound emailing as a way to find potential buyers. I anticipate that most of the emails being sent are ignored by potential buyers and viewed as spam these days.

Lately I have been focusing more on a content marketing strategy and have been building a group of lead capture sites that funnels (pre-qualified) leads to my sales landing pages.

My thought is that the more I pre-qualify a lead, the better the opportunity the landing page will provide results.

It seems to be working which is why I am expanding and building out more seed sites to capture more "buyer intent" traffic to my landing pages. "Rinse & Repeat" seems to be working.

It is like affiliate marketing for your own product (domains).

Has anyone else built this type of funnel for their personal use?
 
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This is what I have been trying in an amateurish way. It lead me to look at ping trees ( used in selling payday loans), and I even started a thread about them here on NP. So far no replies though, and I suspect that this is because domainers are jealous of the leads and contacts.
 
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what about those tricky sites where just by visiting them they capture your email address? wouldn't Mcafee or any other antivirus detect this? and block it? would be perfect if some "tire kicker" came around checking out the domain for obvious reasons and you capture their email address and auto send them an email like .

"Saw you checking out this domain. Interested in buying it?"
 
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what about those tricky sites where just by visiting them they capture your email address? wouldn't Mcafee or any other antivirus detect this? and block it? would be perfect if some "tire kicker" came around checking out the domain for obvious reasons and you capture their email address and auto send them an email like .

"Saw you checking out this domain. Interested in buying it?"

I think it would be better to have an opt in list - "Click here to join our list, and be first to see any new niche specific names we find".
 
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Hi.
What work the best for you in outbound marketing? Including the price in first email or not? Have you try both? Do you follow up?

Thanks!
 
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Hi.
What work the best for you in outbound marketing? Including the price in first email or not? Have you try both? Do you follow up?

Thanks!
Always follow up.
Include or not the price in your email is not a killer factor.
If you not put the price you may have an higher response rate at the first email but after they ask how much you can easily got no more replies.

Btw i prefer not to include the price as I want to know if there is interest or not, then it's possible to discuss the price.
Unless the price is low (max 3 figures) I would not put it in the first email to endusers.
If we talk about outbound to other domainers things can change
 
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nRNF, thanks for all great ideas

But, what FSBO means? Are using eBay for the auction?

Alan, I never thought of this, great idea.

Any other ideas?

Sjarief
FOR SALE BY OWNER
 
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One thing I have learned, outbound marketing works, the fine print though is that it takes a lot of time and the results simply are not worth all that time.

I found myself thinking, is this a profitable business if all I am being told is to buy names that have value and sit on them until someone (hopefully an end user) comes with an inbound offer. This frustrated me and then I went back to the basics of supply and demand. The only way to be profitable is to get domains that are high in demand. If you keep playing the guessing game it just won't work.

So to connect this to your question, buying domains people actually want will take care of the problem of where to find end users or buyers in general because now you will get a ton of offers due to the high demand of the domain. Not only that but you have the option to put it up at an auction site knowing it will sell for a good profit.

- Will
 
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Always follow up.
Include or not the price in your email is not a killer factor.
If you not put the price you may have an higher response rate at the first email but after they ask how much you can easily got no more replies.

Btw i prefer not to include the price as I want to know if there is interest or not, then it's possible to discuss the price.
Unless the price is low (max 3 figures) I would not put it in the first email to endusers.
If we talk about outbound to other domainers things can change

I agree on the follow up, this is so important especially on inbound offers. These are golden prospects who are interested in buying your domain. You need to come up with a method of following up with all your inbound offers that at one point reached out and were interested in the domain name.

You will be surprised how effective it is. It doesn't have to be every day you can follow up twice a month and that will be enough to simply stay in the prospects mind and be there accessible in case they change their minds and want to buy the name at the price you want or close to it.

- Will
 
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Hi guys. I actually bought this two domains: strategyforforex in king and manchesterroofers.co.uk. What do u think about the Prospects of a sale of these domains?
 
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Forex is a trademark name. No good!!!
 
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@domains wanted
Why would you assume that I am not a native speaker? That is a quick judgement because of my name.

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4) I am sure we can find a price that meets both our needs.
5) I hope this helps.
6) A domain name strategy is an important part of your overall digital strategy
 
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what about those tricky sites where just by visiting them they capture your email address? wouldn't Mcafee or any other antivirus detect this? and block it? would be perfect if some "tire kicker" came around checking out the domain for obvious reasons and you capture their email address and auto send them an email like .

"Saw you checking out this domain. Interested in buying it?"

I never understood how a website can capture a web surfer's email address. Is this possible only with browsers like Chrome that allow you (almost force you) to login to you gmail email account to use certain functionalities of the browsers? I don't use Chrome and when I do I don't log in when I use it. TO the best of my knowledge I have never had my email address captured simply by visiting a website. I also don't check my gmail accounts online, I use Thunderbird. Maybe that helps me to avoid the capturing of my email address?

Well, regardless of how it works, email accounts are very personal to people, like a phone # or address. I highly doubt most people looking to buy a domain would buy one from you if you capture their email address without their consent.

But you can definitely sell erection pills, diet pills, get-rich-quick systems, debt consolidation, work-at-home promises, payday loans, "getting laid" courses, etc, etc, etc, that way. Those are desperate, gullible, self-absorbed, lazy consumers that will buy almost anything that has a "special offer" attached to it even if it's spam (which is why commercial spam and telemarketing still exist today). These people either don't understand what spam is or don;t care as long as they are being told they get something for nothing or something impossible for $$9.95!

Domains? Hmmm, not so much.
 
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I never understood how a website can capture a web surfer's email address.


about ten years ago or longer
there was a bug in the most common browser
that allowed the email to be captured
when a visitor comes to your webpage
that bug is long fixed
 
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Has anyone used Fiverr to find end users? Any suggestions for good providers? The email lists I've received so far haven't been very good...
 
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How to solve new GDPR WHOIS masking in order to find potential end users ?
 
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How to solve new GDPR WHOIS masking in order to find potential end users ?
I am literally here for this. I'd like to think there is another way out for outbounders? I have a domain I'm thinking of hand regging, but this new GDPR policy is holding me back
 
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