How Can You Get A Domain The Day It Expires?

[seven]

What service can you use to get a domain as soon as it expires? If so, where and how much does it cost?

I wouldn't think you can but I've had two Godaddy domains plucked from my account right after they expired.

 

[Erdy]

That's not possible. You could still reactivate those domains in Godaddy, I think for 14 days. Login to your godaddy account and then click this link and it will show your domains that have already expired:
Recover Expired Domains:
https://dcc.godaddy.com/default.aspx?activeview=redemption&sa=

If you want detailed information about Godaddy expire process, check this:
http://www.namepros.com/domain-newbies/680209-help-namejet.html#post3949417

 

[1901gt]

What about those domains under "Pending Delete"? How to capture them the moment they got deleted from the registry?

 

[lida]

I heard that you can register an expired domain name after 1 month of expiring date.

 

[DotWeekly]

That's not possible.

Technically, you are correct, but I have seen a domain go to auction / pending delete the day it expires.

Snapnames does it often!

In general, there is really no way to get a domain the day it hits the expire date. The expire date is really 76 days prior to when the domain may get released from the registry. 70 of those days, the domain could be renewed or sold by the registrar (or kept by the registrar).

Your best chance at buying a domain name on the day it expires.... contact the owner via whois!

 

[Name Trader]

I agree with Erdinc. You can recover domain taken out of your account for up to 70 days if you pay their $80 redemption fee. I just put one in my cart. You can recover domains taken out of your account for up to 18 days at normal renewal fees. And you can transfer out domains taken from your account for up to 30 days without paying any additional fees to GoDaddy. If domains are taken out of your account on the day they expire, and they don't appear in your Recover Expired Domains List, I'd suggest they have been stolen and you should be contacting GoDaddy if you want them back.

 

[polarcrow]

Hey,
I'm sorry if i'm understanding this thread incorrectly(English isn't my native language).
Let's say a domain expires, and goes on auctions. Does the previous owner still have time to renew his domain after the action ends?

 

[Erdy]

Does the previous owner still have time to renew his domain after the action ends?

polarcrow,
Yes, and it happened to me twice at Dynadot. They auction their expired domains between day 30-37 after the expiry and at the same time they allow the previous owner to renew his domain for regular registration fee for 40 days after expiry. This is totally rubbish and something very stupid from the folks over Dynadot who are actually smart people.

Godaddy does the same but it never happened to me although I buy a lot of domains at Godaddy. What they do is they auction the domain, you win the auction and you pay. But then you have to wait about a week for the domain to arrive in your account. During that time the previous owner can still recover his domain but they charge more than the regular registration fee.

With domains at namejet and snapnames pre-release auctions, the domain can be pulled while the auction is still running. I haven't hear a domain being pulled after the auction was completed.

With pending delete domains, it is not possible for the previous owner to recover it, and the previous registrar has no control over the domain and has no advantage against other registrars when dropcatching the domain.

Stub,
Are you sure about the 70 days to recover expired domains? I think this doesn't apply to domains that are sold in auction.

It is true there is a 30 day grace period to undo a deletion request. When the automated renewal expires at day 45 a deletion request is assigned for the domain and it can be undone. However this is more complicated then renewing a domain within the 45 days. The registrar would need to contact the registry to undo the deletion request.

Theoretically the domain can be recovered until it enters pending delete, however godaddy doesn't seem to apply that and they stop the recovery at day 42 according this article: http://community.godaddy.com/help/608

In other words at Godaddy,
between day 0-18 you can renew your domain at regular reg fee
between day 19-42 you can recover your domain for $80 plus reg fee

Other registrars do things differently. However I don't think they can recover your domain after day 45 if it was sold. Verisign simply renews all expired domains for one more year and they expect the payment to arrive within 45 days. If the payment does not arrive, they cancel the renewal and they set a deletion request for the domain that waits on hold for 30 days. However that deletion request can be undone.

On the other hand, if a domain is sold in pre-release auction it will be sold before day 45 while it is still under the control of the registrar. As soon as the domain is sold in auction the registrar will pay the renewal fee to the registry and the expire circle will stop. So there will be no 30 day deletion request on top of 45 days that can be undone. So, yes I think you can recover an expired domain even between day 45 and 75 (or usually between 42 and 72 because registrars don't use the full 45 days) with some registrars other than Godaddy but only if it was not sold in pre-release auction.

 

[DaddyHalbucks]

Don't let the good names expire, always register them out many years.

 

[Domagon]

... it happened to me twice at Dynadot. They auction their expired domains between day 30-37 after the expiry and at the same time they allow the previous owner to renew his domain for regular registration fee for 40 days after expiry. This is totally rubbish and something very stupid from the folks over Dynadot who are actually smart people.

The practice of reselling another registrant's expired domain is sketchy, and so various major drop services allow the previous registrant to recover it and/or (if the registrant agrees) to get a percentage of the sale.

More to the point, expired gTLD domains are supposed to be deleted and go through the delete cycle, which includes the 30 day registry redemption period...

Drop services often skip doing that, and thus may try to remedy that deficiency, to some extent, by giving the past registrant extra time, often even beyond the date the domain has already been sold.

It is true there is a 30 day grace period to undo a deletion request.

Do you mean the registrar? Don't always count on having 30 or whatever days, especially with some smaller drop-catcher registrars that delete domains far sooner.

When the automated renewal expires at day 45 a deletion request is assigned for the domain and it can be undone. However this is more complicated then renewing a domain within the 45 days. The registrar would need to contact the registry to undo the deletion request.

For the unrestricted, legacy gTLDs (talking .com, .net, and .org in particular), the registry does nothing. It's up to the registrar ro initiate the delete request - if the registrar doesn't by the end of day 45, they are, typically, on the hook for the registry renewal fee.

As for the amount of time one needs to wait, that depends.

You mention GoDaddy and 42 days ... don't always count on it - in my view, the first 75 days from the expiration date, regardless of the registrar, is most risky with resold expired domains (those that did not go through the full delete cycle, including redemption period) potentially being taken back...

Even beyond 75 days, there can be a slight risk, though it becomes virtually nil for most - but if it's a high-profile domain and/or the ownership history is very sketchy, there could be trouble even many months later.

Ron

 

[richiathton07]

I agree with Erdinç. You can regain control of your account to remove up to 70 days if you pay your $ 80 fee redemption. I just put one on my car. You can retrieve the domain out of your account for up to 18 days in the normal renewal fee. And you can transfer the domain to your account for up to 30 days without paying any additional charge to GoDaddy. If the domains are taken from your account on the day of expiry and not on your list of expired domains Lost, I suggest they have been stolen and must contact GoDaddy if you want them back.

 

[DU]

GoDaddy has terms that say after expiry that they take ownership of the name so that if you buy it at expiry auction and wait 7 days or thereabouts it's yours. It can't be recovered as GoDaddy has made you owner.

At Namejet you can win an auction but have to wait the full period (another 30 days or so) before it's fully yours even though you are the registrant in the whois. Recovery fee is about $160 or so I think.

I've had 2 names taken from me at GoDaddy after winning an auction recently.

 

[manishy]

Some registrars put the domain names for auction right after they expire. Before buying the domain name you should have read the terms of service. You need to bid in the auction for the expired name, whoever bids higher will get the domain name.