Holo vs VR vs MR vs AR vs any other reality (All realities)

[VRdommy]

Intel Project Alloy - A Must Read
http://www.pcworld.com/article/3108...first-open-source-third-party-vr-headset.html

The pace of change with new VR product designs is about to increase exponentially.
And while this is one thing to move that along, it's not the only thing.

...MORE...
http://www.trustedreviews.com/news/intel-project-alloy-vr-ar-merged-reality

 

[mrcurly]

Added one to the portfolio -

.com

ARLenses

 

[xr reality]

Cryptobank.com sells for $125,000 good sale for virtual currency

 

[Type-In]

https://www.thedomains.com/2017/05/02/sedo-weekly-sales-led-piech-com-79000/

LiveAR.com 2,500 USD (not mine)

 

[MetaverseBranding]

Microsoft possibly working on 'massively social' VR game for PCs and consoles
https://www.neowin.net/news/microso...massively-social-vr-game-for-pcs-and-consoles

I still think 'SOCIAL' is where the the VR/AR action will play out in quantity. Time will tell.

Well not VR/AR keywords, would of loved those as well but myself and Elad got:

Social MR (.com)

 

[Digital Nomad]

V/i/r/t/u/a/l/Deck in the KingCOM, as in holodeck...

 

[Digital Nomad]

GameMR. com any potential ?

It got HUGE potential! Wonderful name, congrats

 

[MetaverseBranding]

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GamesAR.com

Amazing, can't compete with that one

The only games related AR domain I have is AR Arcade (.com)

 

[Virtuality Domains]

Hey guys, have been away for a while, hope all is well. Just wanted to say the quality of the posts in this thread have improved considerably over the past year, I’ve learnt a ton, so thanks. Secondly, given you’ve all torn the “VR Terms” and “what will apple do” debates to shreds I thought I'd throw my bullsh*t predictions on the pile. (meant to post this months ago).

Apple will launch iVR & iAR tech, apps and platforms in June, but the combination of the two worlds will be primarily marketed as iXR.
OR...
Apple will launch the following;
iAR for 'tech & apps' associated with 'MobileAR & Tablets'.
iVR for 'tech & apps' associated with 'MobileVR & HMDs'.
iXR 'tech & apps' used with 'XR Glasses that sync with the i8' (out in mid-2018).

The big question is whether iVR/iAR will be launched on a i7S or a new i8. Scoble might be onto something regarding iPhone's 10-year anniversary. Given the i7 still has another year in its cycle I can only see Apple doing one of two things in June/July;
...they'll either announce a new i8 (iVR/iAR/iXR compatible) with a partially transparent screen for their 10-year anniversary, one year early in the iPhone7 cycle (if iXR is revealed to be 'glasses' and not just an umbrella term, then iXR will be announced for release in mid-2018).
OR...
...they'll launch iVR/iAR/iXR on a new iPhone7S at the anniversary. The i8 won't be shown in 2017 as they'll want to maximise i7S sales. (again, if iXR is revealed to be 'glasses' it'll be announced for release in mid-2018). This means the i8 launch would probably coincide with the XR glasses launch and they would be launched as together in mid-2018.

My gut tells me such a radical shift in mobile tech is due in 2018, not 2017, so unless Apple's R&D is a year ahead of everyone else I don’t expect the i8 or XR glasses until early-mid 2018. In the meantime all you iPhone imbeciles will need to be happy with an update, a new app, and a new watch which will eventually sync with your XR glasses ; )

Regardless of release times, Apple will use 'XR' primarily because it is short, aesthetically pleasing, and it has sex appeal. IMO, Apple won't use the term 'mixed reality' or 'MR' (iMR?).

Microsoft will keep identifying it product range as Mixed Reality but will also release hardware and software primarily described as 'virtual reality' under the 'mixed reality' umbrella (MR will be portrayed as the superior product). MS won't adopt the term AR until they're ultimately forced to around mid-late 2018, but again it will be a sub-set niche under MR. MS will not officially use the term XR.

Hololens wont launch to the public until early-mid 2019.

Scorpio will be announced sometime June-Oct this year for an early-mid 2018 release. A wireless HMD for Scorpio will be announced late-2017 but other HMDs launching this year will be Scorpio-compatible so it won’t be required.

Zoon does not make a comeback.

PlaystationVR will release an upgrade to the PSVR by Oct-2018, but the big changes won't happen until mid-2019 with the release of the PS5.

HTC will release a wireless gen-2 Vive sometime between late-2017 and mid-2018.

Magic Leap will release dev kits in early-2018 with a launch date of early-mid 2019.

Google will release a wireless HMD in collaboration with HTC and Lenovo in late-2017 for an early-mid 2018 release. Google will primarily focus on expanding the Daydream platform and incorporating AR & AI into Chrome in 2018.

Facebook will launch a ‘VR Rooms’-like section on their platform at F8 2018, but it will take a while to roll out. Ultimately, VR will take a backseat to its AR operations for at least 18months as FB directs its resources towards merging AR with its user-experience. Zuckerberg's 10-year plan for VR won't really begin to gain momentum until mid-late 2018 when more HMDs are available and the VR marketplace is more settled. FB will attempt to cast itself as an all-inclusive AR/VR platform (eg, directions, shopping, VR rooms), and won’t officially promote MR or XR unless in a massive deal with MS or Apple. FB will also reluctantly support the release of a mediocre Rift 2.

Oculus. The Rift is in a little trouble. With a ton of new HMDs flooding the market in 2017/18, PSVR growing steadily and Scorpio to launch in early-mid 2018, Oculus will quite possibly be squeezed out of the HMD marketplace unless the price drops by 30% or the wireless Santa Cruz cements itself as a top-3 HMD. Regardless, something has to change, and a merger is a good option imo.

Intel announced it will release its Project Alloy in late-2017 but I think there is a good chance we won’t see it until early-mid 2018. I think it will initially be a failure but future big-name collaborations will allow for a gen-2 to be released under another name.

Lenovo will release one of the best HMDs in mid-2017 and then follow it up again in mid-2018. I wouldn't be surprised if they can create a top-3 HMD in one of these years (price and quality).

Random Predictions
Spielberg's Ready Player One in 2018 will be among the top-5 biggest marketing events for VR before 2019.

Scorpio will massively change the VR market-share and power balance in 2018. This will force at least one big name to pull-out of the market by 2019 and another to look for a merger (my money is on Oculus being one of them).

PCVR/WebVR will begin to gain traction with the flood of new VR HMDs in 2017. Google and Facebook developments in Social VR will be key to the rate of growth.

Terms
‘VR’ will sell 3-5 times as many domains as any other term.

‘AR’ will sell a lot but isn’t as well suited to domains as VR.

‘XR’ will sell (if Apple adopts the term) but given it’s a catch-all term specific keywords won’t generally apply. If Apple can cement the term into popular culture it will eventually become more applicable to domains.

‘MR’ will sell but given it’s a catch-all term specific keywords won’t apply to the same extent as VR or AR. If MS can cement the term into popular culture it will eventually become more applicable to domains.

'Holo' will eventually sell but demand won’t begin until 2019 at earliest, probably 2020. This is primarily dependent on the future of the Hololens.

'360' will sell initially but fade out by 2020.

‘WebVR’ will sell a few but not many.

‘Merged Reality’, ‘Hyper Reality’, ‘AVR’, ‘MVR’, ‘MobileVR’, ‘Augmented’ and ‘Virtuality’ won’t sell much.


Ok, thats enough rambling. If I'm way off on any dates or details, or am just forgetting something obvious or worth mentioning let me know, cheers.

PS: Bought my first XR last month..... XR///Communications

 

[Domainsyrup]

I thought about this possibility too... Should've grabbed up VRcoin(s) but wasn't thinking... I did get
VR tokens
AR tokens



Interesting coincidence, I just made my first ripple investment this week... GL to us both... (Total crapshoot at this point, IMHO... )

I grabbed:
VRBitcoin(s)
VRcoins
CoinVR
ARethereum
VRethereum
EthereumVR
BlockchainVR
BlockchainAR
VRtoken
TokenVR
CreditVR
.com
IMHO, blockchain will be huge in virtual reality.

 

[gilescoley]

There seems to be some good interest in VR/Holo names at the moment

I'm in negotiations with one of my VR names and if the sales completes, it will be in the 3x,xxx range. The buyer is not from a startup but an existing VR company. We have been emailing about this for about 3 weeks and he is trying to get approval for the funding. I wont be budging on the price and I'm prepared to lose the sale if I have to, there will be more buyers for this name in future.

Just sold one of my holo names for 14.5K, will reveal more soon...don't post any names on here if you think you might know, thanks

 

[Elad n]

Sold XRgear(.)com 5k , thought you guys would want to know .

 

[MetaverseBranding]

SOLD AR Mirrors (.com) for $500

Cheap price but only purchased for low $xx a few months ago.

Gone to a company that it will be perfect for though so I am happy with that

 

[Digital Nomad]

Mixed Reality will NOT win out. Reminds me of when IoT first started emerging/trending as a keyword 12- 15 years ago and Qualcomm and a consortium tried to rally with the term IoE which made sense except no one cared to change terminology despite some prestigious companies/persons trying to push it. IoT was enough and if you go to Qualcomm website today... it's all IoT. Some domainers invested in IoE despite it nontheless and lost money, I mean almost no sales..... XR conveys what it needs to convey and has been embraced en masse and the branding usage is clear- very hard to for something else to win out.

Yes I believe so too, XR is the umbrella term for the others MR, AR and VR etc. and indeed I see it widely adopted by major companies like Qualcomm:

Our extended reality technologies bridge the gap between physical and virtual worlds.​

Qualcomm Technologies is accelerating the future of extended reality (XR) with our Snapdragon® XR technologies, designed to seamlessly merge the physical world with digital. Our best-in-class XR solutions include processors, software and perception technologies, reference designs and developer tools that help create a new future of unlimited potential for both enterprise and consumers. With the combination of high performance and low power computing, 5G and AI, XR may have a greater impact on our world than PCs and smartphones combined.

 

[BostonDomainer]

I agree with this, I've always thought that the MR acronym will never catch on. I still have my doubts about 'metaverse'. Given the obvious fact that Apple will probably sack any employee who ever says the word in public, and the equally obvious fact it is at least a decade away from even becoming a thing, I suspect as VRDommy once said here, it will have about as much durability as the term 'cyberspace' had.

I would strongly suggest a more in depth analysis on the keyword 'cyberspace' as it actually perfectly highlights the path investors should want Metaverse, XR, VR or any other emerging terms to take. And we would be lucky for such terms to have "as much durability as the term 'cyberspace' has... not had. Think of all the lasting offspring concepts that has rooted from it.... "Cyber Security" , "Cyber Punk", "Cyber Monday" "Cyber Bullying" etc etc. The impact has been long lasting beyond the standalone CyberSpace a term first used as we know it in the late '90s and seeing yet another emergence occuring.

Metaverse on a lexicological level has the same footprint and weight. And as I wrote back in September of last year... focus on meta+keyword or keyword+verse.com. Those who listened started messaging me their sales in private. More action occur in private then most realize.

The first meta name I tried acquiring from my emails was Meta/Coin.com back in 8/2017 and other domainers around that time had already started getting a few... but they bought metaverse+keywords... search the forums around that time and the data is there. I always go shorter because that's just how we as humans are wired. How many people shorten Edward to Ed or Elizabeth to Liz etc etc. Key into this aspect of human behavior. And the long tails are great too if you have killer terms like @Elad n that were industry focused. With domains... brands take an aspect of the familiar and do a little tweaking. Taking either the prefix or suffix or the whole keyword is always a natural first choice.... then the synonyms then you mix things up with brandables. This is almost always the formula from what I've seen over the years.

Anyways I digress. The fact is having doubt alone is not a good enough reason to not invest especially in emerging tech niches. If you can't quantify the doubt... it's just a feeling and you can't be a successful domainer on feelings alone. Research and quantify the risk.

Fun fact... I actually stopped buying meta domains in general in October of last year and just bought my first one since 2 weeks ago. I had already pivoted the focus to +verse.com +realm.com +world.com +reality.com and the foundational metaverse economy like +avatar and skins etc etc. The impact of metaverse and the term meta/metaverse is not going anywhere in the next decade. You have to invest in the whole concept as a domainer so if metaverse did dissapear... who cares because you "covered your own ass" as we always said in the military. And it's very hard for a new term to come in and reach critical mass. It took XR a long time to get there too.... anyways

I wish everyone success! We're all in the same game and these discussions help a lot of beginners and even experts who just aren't versed in a particular niche. And the search engines pick these up.

I bow out now. Happy hunting and good luck to all whatever direction you take.

(I will be opening my self up for free private mentoring or focused questions or just networking via Whatsapp if anyone is interested. I've helped a number of people on here already who are killing it now)

I need ️ lol

 

[Digital Nomad]

Just hand registered "Gaming Immersion" dot-com

Within 30 minutes of registering the name I got an offer via Afternic, WTF, someone playing with me here? lol

Just noticed that the offer came in right before I posted the domain here on NP, so must be a legit buyer.

 

[Digital Nomad]

Apple might be building its own version of the metaverse​

https://www.phonearena.com/news/Apple-might-be-building-its-own-version-of-the-metaverse_id143660​

It is hardly a secret that Apple has big plans for AR/VR technology - Tim Cook even went as far as saying that that could be the “next big thing”.

Now we are getting the first taste of just how far the Cupertino company is willing to go. Bloomberg’s Mark Gurman reports that Apple is now beginning to work on a whole “3D mixed-reality world” and is seeking out new talent to that end.

This information is based on a recent Apple job listing and was first brought forward by Gurman himself in the latest edition of his Power On newsletter. According to the prominent tech pundit, whose track record concerning Apple leaks is impeccable, the Cupertino company could be building a virtual environment similar to Mark Zuckerberg’s “metaverse”. Gurman jokingly quips that the controversial term will never be officially used by the company. Regardless of how Apple decides to name this virtual universe, one thing is certain - the rumored VR/AR headset is only the beginning.

With Google also set to enter the fray with a headset of its own sooner rather than later, no less than three American tech giants will be looking to pave the way for our VR/AR future. It seems Tim Cook was right - that truly is “the next big thing”.

 

[Kingslayer]

And btw, the offers for xrporn are from a big company working on immersive porn and from the number 2 domain brokerage firm worldwide.

But yea maybe I can get the owner of arvrporn.com to agree for a trade.

Its hard to have a conversation with you, you speak with too much emotion and i don't think its emotion for the good of the tech, it's emotion for your own interests which is understandable in some ways (no one wants to lose money), but everyone here is in that position, we all have put money into different things, it's ok to have investments but talk objectively.

But you often do it in a dickish way, it's like you are saying 'F everyone else as long as I'm ok' and you regularly talk as if 'everyone else is wrong and I am right' but again you have been wrong on many things.

You said it yourself, no one has a crystal ball but then after saying that you belittle other peoples investments (VRAR) straight after.

Personally I'm not invested in VRAR+keywords in domains, but what happens if XR becomes nothing and VRAR goes on to have more relevance?

And whats all this no2 brokerage firm in the world? Do they know they are the number 2 brokerage firm in the world, do they accept that and call themselves that? You are talking rubbish.

 

[Kingslayer]

Impressive device. I'm not sure how popular it's going to be with a $3,499 price tag, but I'm really impressed by it, hopefully it doesn't become Apple's Google Glass and is the device to elevate immersive tech to the next level.

Interestingly no mention of XR or xrOS, the operating system for VisionPro is called VisionOS.

 

[Elad n]

I want a giant to use it.. Till then ill stick to what i have, and focus on my bigger investments, mainly in MR and some AR Holo VR on the side.

That said I do own XRglasses, XRshopping, XRdating, XRexperiences XRbets and some more in king juat in case.

 

[MetaverseBranding]

Today's handregs:

Music XR (.com)

Holo Chatroom (.com)

 

[MetaverseBranding]

Let’s just hope you’re wrong about that mate, my last buy cost me 5 figures and I know a few others have paid 5 figures for domains on here.

Way I see it is quality beats quantity and this is the case with anything in life, not just domains.

There's thousands (potentially millions) of poor to average names available and only few quality, everyone wants quality and quality costs money, so if you pay money out for quality, demand will always be there.

I think if your still registering names now (April 2017) and see 5 to 6 registrations or 5 to 6 average names equal to a premium, It’s probably the wrong move imo, 9 times out of 10 unregistered (or dropped) virtual domains are probably unregistered/dropped for a reason.

I think you are right about quality over quantity, but I still believe there is good ROI potential on names that people are allowing to drop.

I have listed a few from 2017 below which I personally feel have great potential for good ROI:

2017 purchases

connectvr (.com).....................247 USD
vrdestination (.com)................204 USD
constructvr (.com)...........404 USD
estatevr (.com)..................555 USD
vrgateway (.com)...............416 USD
vrboutique (.com)..............655 USD

My last VR purchase was $69 for BuildingVR (.com), not premium but a good double meaning that I hope will bring some ROI:

 

[xr reality]

Just some 360 sales now i am not comparing these sales to holo but just to show some prices 360 are going for

Showing first 100 matches:

Domain name Date Price Broker
360.com
February2015 $ 17,000,000.00 USD Vodafone
local360.com
January2012 $ 51,000.00 USD AfterNIC
trade360.com
April 2014 $ 42,500.00 USD AfterNIC/GoDaddy
lab360.com
April 2015 $ 40,000.00 USD DomainProducts/Sedo
trip360.com
April 2016 $ 35,000.00 USD Uniregistry
football360.com
June 2008 $ 33,000.00 USD Private sale
2360.com
December2015 $ 27,577.00 USD NameJet auction
360.org
September2010 $ 25,500.00 USD Sedo
bible360.com
July 2011 $ 20,000.00 USD Sedo
engineering360.com
September2014 $ 19,500.00 USD DomainProducts
xbox360achievements.com
August2008 $ 17,800.00 USD Moniker
iq360.com
November2013 $ 16,000.00 USD
360power.com
March2014 $ 15,000.00 USD Sedo
christian360.com
February2012 $ 15,000.00 USD Sedo
electronics360.com
April 2013 $ 15,000.00 USD Private sale
latitude360.com
April 2012 $ 15,000.00 USD Uniregistry
med360.com
May 2011 $ 15,000.00 USD Sedo
money360.com
September2010 $ 15,000.00 USD Sedo
applied360.com
December2015 $ 13,500.00 USD Uniregistry
spectrum360.com
January2016 $ 13,500.00 USD DomainProducts
ac360.com
March2008 $ 12,901.00 USD Sedo
360eye.com
January2014 $ 12,500.00 USD AfterNIC/GoDaddy
is360.com
September2014 $ 12,500.00 USD
360.de
October2009 € 7,700.00 EUR Sedo auction
mobile360.com
May 2011

 

[Digital Nomad]

Check out the Google trend for Mixed Reality (MR)

 

[sirlordcomic]

My newest acquisition for all things VR & AR, thoughts?

I/m/m/e/r/s/i/v/e/C/o/m/p/u/t/i/n/g/.com

Inside Google’s Slow-Mo VR Moonshot

Clay Bavor knows immersive computing is a long-term project. Here’s what he’s doing to make it happen faster.

https://backchannel.com/inside-googles-slow-mo-vr-moonshot-c1c739d310aa

https://www.forbes.com/sites/forbes...ow-a-pervasive-computing-sequel/#22269d057b74

Today, Clay Bavor and the VR team delivered some exciting news starting off with his thoughts on the technology. Bavor believes that VR and AR fall under one umbrella called the “Spectrum of immersive computing.” Instead of separating the two technologies, Bavor believes that they conjoin through the process of computer generation.

In the meantime, if VR and AR are two points on a spectrum, what should we call the spectrum? Here are a few ideas — immersive computing, computing with presence, physical computing, perceptual computing, mixed reality, or immersive reality. This technology is nascent, and there’s a long way to go on our definitions, but for now, let’s call this immersive computing.

 

[MetaverseBranding]

Still holding "best in breed":

Fashion VR
(I've turned down low $$$$$ for this sucker, so I sure hope this VR "fashion" thing pans out! )

Great name

I have the AR equivalent Fashion AR: