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VRdommy

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I guess we can cover discussion of 'metaverse' names here? I know Elad has invested in some names already. Anyone else? I did some searching for available names and all the obvious ones are gone. I was really dissapointed that 'metaperverse' had been grabbed.


Seems to me there is a big differenc between holo and meta. Microsoft branded their headset 'Hololens'. Facebook are going to brand their headsets Meta Quest (etc).

The term 'meta' has not been used before or at least widely, to describe virtual reality, as opposed to metaverse.

The first adult VR site launched under the name "OculusReal****'. They were quickly forced to change it by Facebook.

Having said that, Facebook is trying to claim ownership of the way we describe the new virtual tech, and to make their company synonymous with it. So the more people use metaverse and even meta is good for them,
Much is not /and mis-understood about FB's term META.
It is a company name now. FB shares now trade under a 'meta' ticker.
It is why I bought up in a light way of how well basically they can protect the term in many circumstances. That is something I guess we will see. You will likely see meta (xxxx) for product names since meta by itself will be hard to protect. Much like 'Oculus xxxx' was, for oculus is actually a dictionary term/noun and is a real thing in the real world dating back more than a thousand years.

I might mention as well that oculusrealxxxx site you mentioned, while they did get that dreaded letter of cease and desist, their actual infringement was not the name (by itself) as you might have guessed and they do not spell that out on purpose in that letter. Had they not also included the trademark image of oculus, they might have got away with it. The image mark was a clear indication of whose mark they were confusing it with/infringing on as they are plenty of oculus marks in the tm library and none of them are products or services of adult video.
That is not to say it was not a stupid move all by itself.

In saying all of that for a more clear understanding, it's going to be funny to watch as challenges are made to the mark over the next 10 years. Yea, I see it as a never ending battle for them.
So, as I mentioned, you will see new marks for products or services as 'meta xxxx' for meta by itself is not highly protectable as a stand alone. It actually opens a lot of opportunity for future names of pre-existing domains of metaxxxxx, and there are a lot of them dating back more than 10 years. Perhaps even the majority of them are older than 10 years as difficult as that may be to believe.

I see a investor play for those pre-existing domains of likely products or services of those older metaxxxxx domains. But I would be sitting this one out because in my heart of heats, I believe that buying one now may come to a clause of 'intent' after these issues have cycled many times.
Great for the original reg if they hold'm. So, my advice is simply to watch your intent, more specifically how you promote a sale of any of these type domains. But I could buy if my intent was to short term flip. There are many opportunities in the market right now while everyone if focused on the shinny object.

We shall see.
While the term meta is hot right now, it makes a good opportunity to sell as things will relax after the hype is over and the old terms we have been celebrating will come back into focus.
And to help you properly focus, just ask yourself despite all the the recent sales, how many of these names of those sales are in actual use/ in the hands of a end-user. Investor 'perceived value' is a very volatile thing.
So, IMHO, if you are holding any, if you don't want to hold long, now is the time to sell or else wait it out.
Investors are knee jerk reactionary and everything is not clear as a bell just yet.
This is a long game and only getting started. We may yet see some new terms create similar effects in the market, but it still does not change the fundamentals. It's just a expansion of them.
 
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I'm seeing a lot of crazy metaverse domain sales. Are these all just hyped up domain resellers trading with other hyped up domain resellers? Seems bizarre to me that 'metaverse' names seem to be getting as many sales in a few weeks as VR names do in a year and AR names have in a decade.

I wouldn't trade any of my VR names for the 'metaverse' equivalent (for example, I have 'Prison VR', I would not trade for 'PrisonMetaverse', 'MetaversePrison', or for that matter 'MetaPrison'.
 

Elad n

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I'm seeing a lot of crazy metaverse domain sales. Are these all just hyped up domain resellers trading with other hyped up domain resellers? Seems bizarre to me that 'metaverse' names seem to be getting as many sales in a few weeks as VR names do in a year and AR names have in a decade.

I wouldn't trade any of my VR names for the 'metaverse' equivalent (for example, I have 'Prison VR', I would not trade for 'PrisonMetaverse', 'MetaversePrison', or for that matter 'MetaPrison'.

Not bizzare.

Just the entire world embraced the term as a term and VR is only a part of it.
Plus tons of money floating into Metaverse related companies
VR will do well as well for the right keywords.
 
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VRdommy

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VRdommy

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Not bizzare.

Just the entire world embraced the term as a term and VR is only a part of it.
Plus tons of money floating into Metaverse related companies
VR will do well as well for the right keywords.
Who are 'metaverse company's' ? Those that have the term in their name ?
OR
Those you want to call metaverse related co's because they do VR &/or AR ?
 

VRdommy

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I'm seeing a lot of crazy metaverse domain sales. Are these all just hyped up domain resellers trading with other hyped up domain resellers? Seems bizarre to me that 'metaverse' names seem to be getting as many sales in a few weeks as VR names do in a year and AR names have in a decade.

I wouldn't trade any of my VR names for the 'metaverse' equivalent (for example, I have 'Prison VR', I would not trade for 'PrisonMetaverse', 'MetaversePrison', or for that matter 'MetaPrison'.
Well, one only has to take a trip back in memory lane if you were around for it, or ask someone that was there for it in domains as the term 'cyberspace' was a/the thing. And cyber for short.
This looks a lot like that one. Except nobody (that I know of) named their co 'cyber'. LOL

I know there will be those that will say that this is different, and I am all ears/eyes !

The term metaverse will be with us for a long time. Till something new steals the show.
I think my comparison of cyberspace is very relevant.
Just speculative investing at this point. When we see them at end use, that will change things some.
 
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Elad n

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Who are 'metaverse company's' ? Those that have the term in their name ?
OR
Those you want to call metaverse related co's because they do VR &/or AR ?

Sorry for not explaining.

Right now Metaverse related companies are companies that are doing XR(both)/AR/VR/Web3 interfaces that include- Digital land/Crypto/NFTs and so on.
 

VRdommy

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Sorry for not explaining.

Right now Metaverse related companies are companies that are doing XR(both)/AR/VR/Web3 interfaces that include- Digital land/Crypto/NFTs and so on.
Well, don't take this the wrong way, as you know I am a stickler for less assumption,
but,
Who decided that? Is this written somewhere ?

I think we are seeing everyone define it for themselves and it is what you want it to be.
And that's OK.
But these are investments we are making and you want to be where consumer are. Or where you think they will be.
Still MHO that the term does not break anything as I have read some say in other threads.
It is a expansion. While I see the term used in speech heavily in the future, I'm not sure how well in names for it make a long tail out of anything. I think there is room for some choice longtails here.

So, we have metaxxxxx to work with.... see all the notes I was making in posts at the top of this page a week ago.
All of the one word metaverse names in gtld's are exception. I have a few of them myself.
As always, time will tell the longer story, but right now, I'm selling into the hype. For I'm not holding these 5-10 years. I feel I have to many. The most likely names to sell in the next 3 years are VR names.
Something big will need to happen to change that. Meta (term) is not going to do that.
Not that you can't make money selling into the hype in the short term. I already have.
This too will pass LOL
 

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Well, don't take this the wrong way, as you know I am a stickler for less assumption,
but,
Who decided that? Is this written somewhere ?

I think we are seeing everyone define it for themselves and it is what you want it to be.
And that's OK.
But these are investments we are making and you want to be where consumer are. Or where you think they will be.
Still MHO that the term does not break anything as I have read some say in other threads.
It is a expansion. While I see the term used in speech heavily in the future, I'm not sure how well in names for it make a long tail out of anything. I think there is room for some choice longtails here.

So, we have metaxxxxx to work with.... see all the notes I was making in posts at the top of this page a week ago.
All of the one word metaverse names in gtld's are exception. I have a few of them myself.
As always, time will tell the longer story, but right now, I'm selling into the hype. For I'm not holding these 5-10 years. I feel I have to many. The most likely names to sell in the next 3 years are VR names.
Something big will need to happen to change that. Meta (term) is not going to do that.
Not that you can't make money selling into the hype in the short term. I already have.
This too will pass LOL

:) it's easy for me to hold as my strategy in any Niche is the buy the best and keep a small portfolio.
So far it's working.
 

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+ Amount of money entering is unprecedented.
While in the near term or the last 10 years, I might agree somewhat, but you were not really domaining back when domains were about 20x what they are today with co's going after a choice name a bit late to the game. The isurance industry alone was nearly 10% of the volume and $ we see today. That all relaxed after facebook and co's found a identity there and access to demographic data on the entire user base that they were not getting from google or anyone else. Making potential customers a somewhat predictable commodity. Yea, it changed everything.
A lot of domainer's don't want to admit that, but it's true.
Facebook met it's saturation level and is heading off what might be next. Likely facing regulation for what it has been doing the last 12 years, it's about to read you like nobody ever has before with the emotional read for your avatar. One step ahead of regulators. But, That's a whole new story for somewhere else.

But as far as I can see, all the money is speculative investors. Not end-users. At least yet.
I'm sure we will see a few next year though. But look at the volume of sales in 5 figures+.
A lot of folks are going to draw a short straw, and a long wait, not that it is anything new.

So, if you are to say to me that co's have embraced the term, I say OK, but not with a lot of money, outside of facebook. Domain investors certainly have.
 
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Surprise ! ...Not really, but trusted sources or should I say Rumor+++...

Apple AR/VR headset is reportedly 'approaching liftoff'

https://www.laptopmag.com/news/apple-arvr-headset-is-reportedly-approaching-liftoff-watch-out-oculus

While this MR device will likely have everyone talking, I expect it to be a little pricey for the masses and there is nothing wrong with that if the quality is there. They will set a standard to beat I'm sure.

If this, Quest2 and Focus3 does not kick-start names next year, nothing will... ...Finally !

Question still remains on how long before the other/ true ARGlasses comes our way.
I'd take apple at the word they used a couple of years ago and say 2-3 years after the MR device.
Bought my first AR name 13 years ago, so, it's been a long wait.
 

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I know that I am never a popular figure here when I bust hype bubbles.
But you have to admit that I have been pretty accurate in this niche the last 5+ years.

So, I went looking for someone else to say a bit of what I have been thinking and put it in perspective.
Not that you can't find someone on the internet that agrees with your POV. But these are a little more substantial.
While these 2 pieces, I do not agree 100% of everything that is said. It's still reflects the same general overall landscape as I see it.

Watch this interview from CBSN
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/metave...ompanies-building-our-virtual-reality-future/

And this will help put our segmented niches in perspective.
https://www.forbes.com/sites/timbajarin/2021/11/23/the-coming-battle-between-vr-xr-and-ar-camps/
 

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The problem with our niche names...

You know I have said it before. The issue is still with us.
There is hope on the horizon because the first step was to get enough HMD's in the field and this xmas will likely put it over the edge this year. We certainly have enough desirable models to choose from.

SO, when dev's see a market to cater to, they will do just that. It takes more than you think because not all media is compatible with each unit made. Which is why we still need standards to really make it zoom. Dev's have to create multiple versions of the same program for a smaller market each.
Would you do the same work 5 times... unlikely. You will choose the top 2 or 3 markets, unless someone is paying you some boot money. And this does happen.

Content is where the bulk of our names will be going over the years. That is what most of us are holding.
I certainly concentrated on it and I normally head for hardware names first. But they will likely blossom last. Content is what is needed next year to keep many of these HMD's from becoming a paper weight junk toy we laugh about in old age. ( I don't actually think it will reach that level )

I am very optimistic from what I have been seeing. The wheels turn slower than we want as the issues are worked through, one at a time.

https://uploadvr.com/pc-vr-new-content-editorial/

So, keep a eye on software sales next year because that will signal the opportunity to dev's and boost our niche names and the expansion of the entire system will gain pace accordingly.
I would review your pricing on names for content,
because name sales will happen way before software announcements for them.
 

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So,
According to DNJ this week for 2 weeks....
MetaTime.com $40k
MultiMetaverse.com $6k

Both with a coming soon lander. But I'm going to guess that they are used for a traffic re-direct to some niche unrelated site within the next month. A investor who also markets traffic and seo ?
One of them appears to be Japanese. Time will tell.
Anyone want to guess how long before a end user comes along for the big hit ?
(to understand why I say sell now on good offer or wait it out long)
I don't mind selling to other investors if the price is right.
But a great name is always worth holding. Is anyone holding a 'great name' ?
I guess it's time to say Merry Christmas !
 
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