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HELP -FED UP with domains

Located in Domain Beginners started by blumutt, Jul 10, 2019.

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  1. blumutt

    blumutt Established Member

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    I'm a 74 year old male, and I'm FED UP. I have been buying domains since 2016. I tried selling on Sedo at one point. No sales. I have them at Undeveloped (is now Dan.com). Still no sales.
    I don't think my prices are too high (imho). Am I selling the wrong way? The names are Ok I think.
    I have read so much on NamePros over the last year and a half that my eyes are crossed. There is so much great info here, and 99% of members are really honest and helpful.
    I'm getting to the point in my life that I just want to slow down and not have to stress over these names anymore.

    I would be grateful for any pointers.

    A few of the names I have are below.

    earplace.com
    ecig360.com
    gangbangking.com
    intelligentjournalism.com
    cannabisstateofmind.com
    keyhotelsearch.com
    reviewarchaeology.com
    tokyoga.com
    fullcryptohub.com
    realbuyvacations.com
    xbtone.com
    superrealestatedeals.com
    superrealtydeals.com
    drxbt.com
    triniroti.com
    qwertybrand.com
    thatsmightygood.com
    nofrillsdiet.com
    brandspecialty.com
    grubhog.com
    kaffeebean.com
    grubferret.com
    premiumhotelsearch.com
    wherecanibuyadomain.com
    wheretobuydomains.com
    howdoibuyadomainname.com
    bitsbytesnbrands.com
    weedstateofmind.com
    libraqing.com
    libradna.com
    libralocity.com
     
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  2. The Durfer

    The Durfer Upgraded Member Gold Account VIP

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    how much is tokyoga.com? That one is pretty cool, and it makes my eyes cross. lol.
     
  3. MrAcidic

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  4. equity78

    equity78 Top Member TLDInvestors.com TheDomains Staff PRO Gold Account VIP ★★★★★★★★★★

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    Understand the frustration, this is for the most part a lonely business and no sales tend to lead to unhappiness towards domaining.

    To be successful at domaining, it's not about registering names and then listing them at Sedo or DAN, and that's selling. That's listing. If the names have no traffic how would anyone know they are there? Sedo or Afternic or GoDaddy do not "Sell" your names. Each has their plus and minus. But none of them are doing the selling for you.

    You own a lot of names that really need that one special buyer. Someone might have a slogan, "That's mighty good!" They would then maybe want your name for an ad campaign, more than likely no one is naming their brand that.

    But there are options, Thatsreallygood, Thatsmightygreat, Thatsgood, Thatsgreat, MightyGood.

    In search and social no one is searching for that term, so the potential amount of users might not be high.

    The domain related names you regged like HowDoIBuyADomainName.com, that's a development project. And the juice is most likely not worth the squeeze, you will find it next to impossible to rank on the first few pages of Google for "domain name" or "domain names"

    People want short and catchy, long names can sell when they are popular phrases, highly searched, expensive keyword combos. But for the most part you are regging the wrong kind of names.
     
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  5. blumutt

    blumutt Established Member

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    Tokyoga dot com is listed at 2288.00
     
  6. blumutt

    blumutt Established Member

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    Thanks. I really do understand what you're saying, and I appreciate your input.
     
  7. equity78

    equity78 Top Member TLDInvestors.com TheDomains Staff PRO Gold Account VIP ★★★★★★★★★★

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    No problem and know there are many who feel the same as you.

    One exercise you can try is flipping your position on your portfolio, don't be the seller, be the buyer.

    Start asking yourself questions and answer honestly.

    Why would I buy this name?
    How would it be used?
    Are there several companies doing real business using a name similar?
    Does the name have burn down value?
    If this is a three or four word name, is it in the best order? CreditCardDebtErased.com vs EraseCreditCardDebt.com.
    Search numbers?
    Paid advertisers on AdWords for this keyword combo?
     
  8. blumutt

    blumutt Established Member

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    Thanks. I don't understand the second paragraph though, "One exercise you can try is flipping your position on your portfolio, don't be the seller, be the buyer".
     
  9. offthehandle

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    He is suggesting that you are self reflective and go about analyzing your own inventory, suggesting you reverse your role, and put yourself in the “buyers shoes”. Why would you buy your names for your business? Pretend you own a business using those names.
     
  10. blumutt

    blumutt Established Member

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    That makes so much sense, and I'm surprised I didn't learn that along the way. Never too late, or too old to learn.
     
  11. webmys

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    I can relate to the problem of having domain names that would be great for the right buyer, but finding the right buyer is the hard part. For instance, 360degreecx.com (one I own, because I was thinking of using 360 Degree CX as the name of a book I was writing) would be great for a company that does customer experience consulting, but it isn't a term people would naturally search.
     
  12. offthehandle

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    Learning is a life long goal for some of us, I have never stopped. I jumped into this in 2016, also at advanced age, though been into computing since 300 baud modems to Compuserve, and have had fun with domain buying and a really nice sale that got me interested.

    Even after that analysis, you may still never sell them so just drop them and buy others. Testing.

    Read and watch Ricks twitter videos he puts up daily.

    https://mobile.twitter.com/DomainKing/status/1143824654433476608

    https://mobile.twitter.com/DomainKing/status/1143462850893176832

    https://mobile.twitter.com/DomainKing/status/1129346125448798208
     
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  13. lovedomains.com

    lovedomains.com marketingstrategies.com Gold Account VIP

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    honestly, I think the wisest things you could do would be...

    - delete all the domains
    - forget about domaining
    - don't give yourself a hard time about it, (you are a statistically normal domain name speculator)
    if you have to get a side hustle, find some nice masternode coins in the crypto space

    good luck
     
  14. urlurl

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    what you needed was a mentor that would advise you of what not to buy.

    i can see why most of the names didnt sell. names sell because people want them - find out what sells, why they sell and how often those types of names sell... then you will be better-equipted buying names.
     
  15. frank-germany

    frank-germany domainer since 2001 / musician Gold Account VIP

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    I guess it's your domains ...
    that suck


    advice:
    don't register domains in a
    weedstateofmind.com
     
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  16. jamesosix

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    Wow, firstly, I applaud a person applying himself to learning as you have done at your age. I think its great and just wanted to wish you some success. It is hard, but if you are committed to learning and its just a hobby, try not to let it get you fed up.

    All the best sir
     
  17. premkumar

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    1. Stick to domain with length less than 11 character
    2. Use promo to buy expired domains, average of just 1 domain sells out of 100 hand registered
    Its mostly numbers, you buy medicore domains in good number and except 1 or 2 sell.
    3. what you have are not worth, look for step1
    4. Concentrate of brandables, that are short (less than 8 characters) and list in BB, squadhelp etc
    5. No domain should be more than 2 words, stick to it.

    Getting a domain qualify above criteria is tough to get, spend lot of time on expired list daily.

    All the best
     
  18. Ariff BD

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    like your tokyoga i have casinovascotia.com
     
  19. biggie

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    most new entrants to domaining have extremely high expectations

    seems like they focus more on the big sales, but not on how to buy names, that will sell.

    gotta wonder who's blowing the most smoke up their butts :)

    puff puff...

    imo...
     
  20. Josytal

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    Sir, to be frank, most of the names are bad. Even my hand-crafted marketplace solution that has been bringing success won't help you.
    I'll advise you drop most of the names and start all over. You'll be going through vicious circle by trying to renew them.

    Lastly, confide in some of the experienced domainers here on NP and seek for opinion/ advice before (NOT after) registering your next domain name(s).
     
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  21. Josytal

    Josytal Top Member VIP

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    Insinuation NEITHER cool nor funny! :xf.frown::xf.frown::xf.frown:
     
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  22. frank-germany

    frank-germany domainer since 2001 / musician Gold Account VIP

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    to me its funny
     
  23. LarryDomain

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    Let all those domains expire and go find a different hobby. This is not the hobby for you. Go fishing.. odds are you will catch a fish before you sell one of those domains..
     
  24. Bob Hawkes

    Bob Hawkes formerly MetBob NameTalent Gold Account VIP

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    Let me first stress that you are no doubt far from alone when you say that you feel frustrated by domaining. It can be frustrating and solitary and there is no guarantee that one will make any profit, and even when one does, a lot of patience is usually required. For those of us of advanced age, sometimes that patience is even harder to have.

    I think it is very unfortunate that too often there is hype about how easy it is to "pick up some com, flip them for quick profit". As we all know, domaining is not easy, fast or assured.

    Secondly let me commend you both for all your reading over the past year and a half, and being honest with yourself, and reaching out with your post.

    Only you can decide what is right for you, but if your feelings about domaining are mainly frustration, I would probably consider getting largely out of it. Our time is too precious to spend time on things that no longer interest us.

    An alternative would be to stay in, but in a very limited way with a small portfolio. I would ask yourself what are your best 5 domains, and put your effort into those. Many have mentioned tokyoga and with this and perhaps a few others seeing if one of the brandable places would list them (BrandBucket, SquadHelp, etc.) might be the right route. Yes, commissions are steep, but probability of sale, and potential returns, higher than on general purpose marketplaces, in general.

    I like the name EarPlace -- for example could apply to hearing centres but also might be of use in podcasting and other areas. With two common words, easy to remember. I take it from your icon you too are from Canada, and the tough anti-spam rules make outbound difficult for Canadians, but of the list you provided this would be one name I would consider trying to get noticed.

    Finally, I would not discount the idea of trying to get that first sale, even at a modest price. I think psychologically having a sale, even if not at the price one hoped, is important provided that as a minimum the sale covers your costs associated with that name and a bit more. Clearly long term one needs to do better than that, but a first sale is a sale. The median price of .com each day on NameBio listed sales is normally about $225. I think a sale in that range, even though not as much as you need to be long term sustaining in domains, is still a significant accomplishment.

    I really wish you the best going forward.

    Bob
     
  25. blumutt

    blumutt Established Member

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    Thank you very much for your honest, and very helpful pointers, Bob. They will definitely guide me in my next step. Criticism can be given in many ways, but the only one worth taking in is constructive criticism, which you took the time to give me. Very few here have done that. A grateful thank you to you, Bob, and to those few who gave me their honest and constructive criticism.
    And yes, I am Canadian.
     
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