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Facebook banning Trump ... Gives too much power to Zuck

Labeled as information in The Break Room, started by frank-germany, Jan 8, 2021

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  1. TCK

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    Since this is a thread about FB. Instead of starting a new thread, I would like to ask you how do you feel about the recent changes to the FB interface? I think FB suffers from the same issues as GD. New code on top of old code. I may be wrong.
     
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    The media keeps making the mistake of calling armed militarized groups "militia", which is actually incorrect. It unintentionally gives them legitimacy. In reality they are gangs. The original militia are now called "National Guard". They stand by until the military needs reinforcement.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_National_Guard#:~:text=All members of the National,governments and the federal government.

    "All members of the National Guard of the United States are also members of the Organized Militia of the United States as defined by 10 U.S.C. § 246."
     
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    It should be noted that both Marxism and Fascism were quasi-religious movements. Cults in a sense. The same can be attributed to the current movement in the incarnation of the outgoing administration.
     
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  4. frank-germany

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    I really can't believe how that webpage became such a success
    with such an incredibly messy user interface.

    I hate it.
     
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    Ashli was committing a crime. Where you there Samer? If not how do you know who shot? I don’t recall you having one bit of outrage when George Floyd was killed on tape. Is it because Ashli is white as you mentioned? Who cares what color the shooter was but racists?
     
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    It is terrible and heartwrenching whenever anyone dies. The biggest tragedy is that most who broke into the capitol believed they were part of a revolution. They became part of history for all the wrong reasons and were manipulated by the manipulator-in-chief. How sad.

    It is certainly a valid conversation to have about the different standards of "justice" depending on skin color. And I am not qualified to make definite statements on this topic.

    Because the president is implicated in the events of Jan 6, that was also a consideration. It appears that the authorities are being meticulous in creating the strongest cases possible to incarcerate perpetrators in court of law. We should expect many more arrests. Including the impeachment trial of the president. And possibly the removal of certain senators.
     
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    Trump's enemies are organized and powerful, and unorganized crowd can do nothing to stop them.
    They didn't go there to do revolution, they went there to provide support, and protest election theft. This way Trump and his friends would show to the world, he is not alone.

    What really happened: deepstate tried to manipulate things using Antifa. They did small amount of terror, by using pepper spray, breaking windows, bringing bombs. And some Trump supporters thought they were supposed to do something, and followed antifa. Antifa people pretended to be Trump supporters, and at the same time used racist symbols as if Trump was racist. .. What was this done for: maybe as an excuse for social media censorship.
     
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    Proof? Evidence? There is a lot of video documentation to the contrary.
     
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    @topdom I can debunk your (insert adjective) theory in very few words. However, I will drag it out for emphasis. To start of, why weren't any antifa members arrested in your opinion?
     
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    I heard some were arrested, but mainstream media is always biased. They will hide their own crime. Antifa can be a pure puppet (I mean, maybe not the deepstate itself), and there may be no official record of their membership. It is just like ISIS, and Al Queda.

    The keyword: Crowdfunding, is registered in 299 extensions. Why so: who is funding which crowd for what purpose.

    edit: (after the post below): Above, by "biased" I meant , "biased, and supporting the evil side."
     
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    You are free to post "unbiased" media. You have to support your conclusions with facts. Or no?
     
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    Contrary? Ok there are two sides of this. There are fake Trump supporters (antifa or other paid people, some pretending to be Trump supporter and Nazi at the same time), and real Trump supporters who may have thought they were supposed to do something there and followed antifa, thinking they were Trump supporters as well.

    This is why some Trump supporting alternative media blamed Qanon for bringing Trump supporters there, and inviting a deepstate provocation.
     
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    You are still writing from a position that is not supported by facts. It is a talking point fed to you by right wing supporters of the current administration. Have you been able to find factual support for your statements? If so, it would be a benefit to your fellow domainers to post such evidence. Otherwise you are contributing to the problem.
     
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    Ok, I edited the post.
    Good guys are also biased, but they don't lie intentionally.

    Some good sources:

    larouchepac
    robertddavidsteele (click videos)
    x22report
    not sure about qanon, but it is probably mostly reliable as well.
    benjaminfulford.net (50 percent trustable, 100 percent good intentions, 90 percent on good side)
    alex jones?
    catherine austin fitts (originally, (before 2015) had doubdts about Trump, not anymore)
    naturalnews (I don'like that as a "right wing" source they call the evil side left. )
    rt.com

    None is 100 percent trustable. But they don't lie intentionally, although they are biased (support good side, mostly, more than 90 percent).
    ............
    What are your sources?
     
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    I think we underestimate the role that social media played in the events of Jan 6. There is such overwhelming real time documentary evidence thanks to social and digital media that we don't need commentators to tell us what to think or to parse what happened. We can see it for ourselves. Much of this thanks to the perpetrators live-streaming their actions, posting to social accounts, and cameras in the Capitol.

    When you watch the videos you can see cellphones, GoPro and other cameras. No event of such magnitude has had the amount of video documentation.

    It was so profound that the president was impeached with bipartisan votes. It led to resignations of key personnel within the presidential circle. The vice president refused to follow the president's wishes. Even the leader of the president's party wants to distance himself.

    Think about that.
     
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    Not a suprise. Both parties are corrupt. Trump had to work hard to handle all sides' expectations until now.
    Which sides: Global deepstate (his enemy), global-anti-deepstate (Russia-China-USarmy, and awakened people of the world), "his" party, Americans. etc. He represents 2nd and 4th of these: Antideepstate and USA republic/American people. He doesn't really have much to do with republican party. Repulican party and Democrat party differ on a few topics: firearms, abortion, homomarriage. These are polemic topics past candiates would discuss on TV to keep americans brainwashed (maybe they would also discuss economy, interest rate, healthcare, taxes, but these didn't mean much).
     
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    No doubt. However, we need to have free minds and not fall into talking points or be swayed by political hacks, talking heads, etc. We need to seek the facts and make up our own minds. That's why the list of sources you gave is meaningless. The media (left and right) is peppered with facts but also a lot of agenda, We need to be able to separate those. Read, listen, study. Also, history can teach us a lot. Finally, don't allow yourself to be boxed in by prevailing attitudes.
     
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    It is interesting to listen to thinking people's opinions. However, we have to be careful that we don't allow other people to do our thinking for us. Because in most cases there is a lot of speculation and bias. Everyone has bias. When it comes to people in power and people in general, there are 3 ways to discern the facts. 1) What do they say; 2) What do they do; 3) What are the consequences. It doesn't take a genius to figure it out.

    But speculation and debate is what many commentators make their living on. I listen to certain YouTube channels by smart people. But even smart people are wrong. So I take it with a lot of grain of salt. You can only go by clear facts. Those are the three things I mentioned above and by evidence that is undeniable. We can go on forever talking about speculation and debate.
     
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    "Did you know Martin Luther King, Jr. and Anne Frank were born in the same year in 1929? If they were still alive (as they should be), they would both be turning 92 this year. The Civil Rights Movement and Holocaust were not that long ago."
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