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Epik Had A Major Breach

Labeled as alert in Warnings and Alerts, started by Silentptnr, Sep 14, 2021

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  1. .X.

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    You hit the nail on the head .. “Members” … many supporters .. Yes … the supporters are very open about the “Members” the supporters love to hang out with each other and chat .. they talk a lot ..
     
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  2. Windoms

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    Godaddy 76 million domains, 20 million customers.
    About 4 domains per customer.

    Namecheap 12 million domains, 2 million customers.
    About 6 domains per customer.

    Epik 600.000 domains.
    Domains per 1%str domainer?
    Domains per .99 .co promo domainer?
    Even I registered 150 last year LOL.
    50% of transactions under $1. 2% under 10$.
    Says a lot.

    Remember we were the main focus of epik in their ambition for growth. So most of their customers are domainers.
    The far right people and free speech advocacy, it was just an opportunity that Mr. turn lemons into lemonade CEO took when GAB got kicked out of Godaddy.

    Aside from GAB event, dont see where they had the opportunity to attract non-domainer customers. Only us cared about the innovation and landers. For general customers, theres better registrars, with better reputation.

    At this very moment I realized the hackers leaked more domainers than nazis.
    But at least no researcher will expose us.
    Unless you've been registering some very bad domains, then no more warranty.
    Like LoveHitler.co
    Lol.
     
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    I also just realized, there we go, made things short.

    The hackers said

    "Contained with this release.
    A decade's worth of company data fron the company.

    ALL DOMAIN PURCHASES
    ALL TRANSFERS
    ALL WHOIS HISTORY
    ALL DNS changes

    Account credentials for:
    ALL EPIK CUSTOMERS, hosting, anonimyze, and so on
    Epiks internal systems
    Epik's Godaddy logins"


    So yes, I say it again, the 110,000 is 100% of epiks customer data. The answer was right there under our nose.
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  4. jmcc

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    Those figures look like Dofo is adding to the last published ones, Bob,
    These are the totals for the last (May 2021) ICANN reports:
    All: 653,482
    Legacy: 578,633
    New gTLDs: 74849

    .COM: 494,019
    .NET: 22,259
    .ORG: 22,658
    .BIZ: 1,930
    .INFO: 36,998
    .XYZ:37,412 (Peaked August 2020 at 41,742)

    The .COM count peaked at 528,789 for September 2020.(All: 746,030).

    The domains under management or "dums" is sometimes used as a metric in the registry/registrars side of the industry.

    It is the Dunning Kruger effect writ large. The key aspects, with the scraped WHOIS records, are the expiry date in those WHOIS records and whether the domain names are still registered. Millions of domain names are not renewed on their first renewal. In terms of sales, Epik was fairly active and it was marketing the new gTLDs even after the Digital Towns thing.

    The "registrar" thing gets even more complex when discussing ccTLDs. Claiming Epik is the "registrar" for a number of ccTLDs when it is not an accredited registrar in those ccTLDs is wrong. It is not a registrar in some of the ccTLDs that I've seen mentioned and the registrants may be parking those domain names on Epik for sale. A lot of the coverage doesn't differentiate between Epik being a registrar and Epik being just a hoster.

    Regards...jmcc
     
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    These are the top 10 gTLD registrars by count for May 2021:
    | GoDaddy.com, LLC | 65,734,606 |
    | NameCheap, Inc. | 12,568,285 |
    | Tucows Domains Inc. | 10,606,680 |
    | Network Solutions, LLC | 6,864,226 |
    | Google LLC | 6,407,480 |
    | Alibaba Cloud Computing (Beijing) Co., Ltd. | 6,168,054 |
    | PDR Ltd. d/b/a PublicDomainRegistry.com | 5,242,927 |
    | eNom, LLC | 4,939,971 |
    | 1&1 IONOS SE | 4,824,985 |
    | GMO Internet, Inc. d/b/a Onamae.com | 4,561,358 |

    The problem is that some operations like Godaddy and Newfold Digital have multiple ICANN registrar accreditations. Godaddy bought Uniregistry's registar business and that's now a Godaddy registrar. Newfold owns Network Solutions and Public Domain Registry. The numbers of domain names per registrant is a bit obscure. Some registries publish the breakdowns but a lot of them have declined to publish it in the last few years as it could be used to check how many Mom and Pop registrants were active in a TLD. In this respect, not all TLDs are equal and having a high number of domainer and speculative registrations in a TLD is considered a bad thing for a newly launched TLD. Epik has been trying a lot of business ideas over the last ten years (some successful and some not so) but the bulk of registrations are still concentrated on the large registrar operators.

    Regards...jmcc
     
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  6. .X.

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    Yep .. considering the circumstances .. both Epik and Rob are doing well ..

    The info Dump appears to be gradual right now … if they didn’t have my financials .. I would prolly chill a little .. but they do have my financials .. so I am balls to the wall .. my financials Illegally obtained .. for the 4th time now ..
     
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    I have one single domain at Epik .. a name I purchased from RJ .. I had to renew the domain about 3 months ago .. now I have to spend more money in hopes of catching the person or persons that stole my financials .. it’s not the money at all .. it’s .. I am tired of being violated by criminals .. this is the 4th and hopefully the last time I get violated .. I won’t stop on this hit … I got money and I got time .. I plan on using a lot of both to get results .. If someone finds my credit card on the ground .. do they have a right to use it .. No … if I leave my door unlocked .. does someone have the right to enter .. No .. being violated by punks ends here for me I hope
     
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    Epik is only 1 of 4 times my information has been hacked and stolen by criminals .. there are people that are happy about this hack as I have seen .. it’s no joke .. I guarantee it is absolutely no joke .. anyone here even could be holding my financials if they downloaded the Dump …. I want to see some big time justice this time .. I hope I do .. In
    a decently timely manner as well
     
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    In a way you got to feel a little sorry for Rob, I mean he had to meet all his payrolls and registrar and registry fees and all he had to work with was mainly a bunch of Nazis and Domainers.

    I wonder which group was worse, at least the Nazis didn't keep twisting his arm everyday asking for discounts. :xf.wink:

    To make an educated guess I believe that Epik might have had only around 20k permanent customers.

    IMO
     
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    Probably but he can't say that now because you can be sure he lied to "investor" about active user counts. Like his buddy Torba did.
     
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    The credit card info being dumped is a small part of this problem and you know it, stop trying to distract from the real problem. 100K users had their private info about domain ownership and now from what I am hearing even their web site visits exposed because the VPN keys are all published. Imagine some Chinese or muslim Christian trying to share the gospel with a secret website or some anti-lgbt activist in Germany? Those people could go to jail or worse. I know you have a problem being concerned with others but that is the problem. Not just your credit card data.
     
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    years ago rob launched a fake VPN service that exposed all his users data. Here is his response. Do not pity Rob Monster. He is a Monster.
     

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    What did I say ?? I said this is the 4 time my information and financials have been hacked .. what other problem do I have .. Tell me ?? I am not a member of any of the controversial sites .. I don’t even use any social media .. so tell me what I am missing here ???
     
  14. Derek Peterson

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    LOL. But thank you for proving my point, which was that your credit card data being posted is not the real problem, you and anyone can simply fix that with a phone call, the problem is for OTHER people who may be persecuted because of data being leaked - losing their jobs, put in prison or even killed.

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    considering I am an innocent victim .. how many more innocent victims are there ??

    interesting … put in prison or killed ??? Elaborate on that one ..
     
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    I'll read them all, but you guys are getting pretty nasty and hostile. Remember, the whole world may be reading this.
    Thank you to those that share really relevant info. @Derek Peterson looking forward to some information with substance, tap it cool, dont want you to end up where .x. has been like 13 times
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  17. DN Playbook

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    You're right @oldtimer, Nazis are less worse than domainers. LMAO

    Tell me who your friends are and I'll tell you who you are.

    No one twisted Rob's arms for discounts. It was a business decision to draw customers away from the competition.

    That comment of yours is very surprising and very telling.
     
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    14 times … sadly … a lot of people think they know .. but they don’t .. it’s an experience like no other..
     
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    what about acquaintances .. does that count as well against people ???
     
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    Yes. People you choose to be associated or acquainted with will reflect on you. Especially if they are known Nazis and/or encourage hatred toward others.
     
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    mmmk … so I have one domain name with Epik .. I have spoken to Rob Monster twice .. once concerning the domain name industry solely .. recently concerning the Hack of Epik … where does that put me ??
     
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    Let me start over... Since you ask.

    It is very well documented on NamePros and all over the Internet that Rob has extreme views and frequently courts far right extremists, white supremacists, and Neo-nazis. This is not hard to find. It is everywhere, including in Rob's own words here on NP.

    On Rob's prayer meeting online (to discuss the hack) Neo-nazis/white supremacists showed up. They were so brazen that one even showed off on camera his large swastika tattoo that covered his chest.

    So if this happens so boldly and so shamelessly on camera with other customers present and Rob expresses his love for this person, you can imagine what happens behind the scenes.

    If you want your name and business to be associated with this culture, go ahead. It's your choice.
     
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    I think that "over $10" thing is a misinterpretation by the people looking at info... but I see a lot of misinterpretations by them, like:

    ...For one thing, on Twitter, they seem to be acting like 90% of Epik's customers are neo-nazis, when it's probably less than 1% (which is 1% too many, but still).
    Some context for researchers reading this: Epik got a lot of customers when they had transfer sales like $6.49/domain (wholesale domain fees were $8.03, so $6.49 was very appealing), and because their renewal fees could be as low as $8.10 -- and that was when Epik was considered just a regular registrar with excellent support [although apparently very poor security, but people didn't know that] and didn't have any controversy.
    - And they did have useful features, like the control panel with detailed information and the system for selling domains - that's how they got so many customers, and those were in place years ago, before Epik and Rob got involved with controversies.

    ...And I also saw a researcher on Twitter talk about some right-wing guy's portfolio and how his "4 letter domains" are very valuable, even though the screenshot of the portfolio showed the domains were low-value, like a3bk.com (not the actual domain, but ones like that) [i.e. "4 character", since numbers are obviously not letters].

    Anyway, I think the "under $10" issue is because for some reason, if you make payments using Masterbucks or your account balance ("in store credits"), Epik's system subtracts each domain payment individually.

    With .com domains being $8.49 or less, that's how 98% of transactions would end up being under $10.

    The 50% under $1 would mean a surprisingly high number of junk nTLDs were bought though.
     
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  24. DN Playbook

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    I get that. You personally have opposing views. But associations can reflect on us in eyes of those that haven't taken the time to know us personally. And that is the case in business. And you may not view your domaining as a business. I don't know if you have a day job or not. But IMO it is a pr risk.
     
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    Back to the topic and problem at hand for thousands of innocent people who’s personal information and financials are in the hands of ?? Who really knows how many .. I am reading quite a bit about people having downloaded the Dump .. so the % increases of someone’s financials being used unauthorized.
     

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