.ca Dot CA Discussion, Sales, and Showcase

[whitebark]

Domains For Next MyID .ca Auction

These are the upcoming domains and reserve range for the next/current myid.ca auction:

666.ca ($1751 - $2500)
Acrobats.ca ($251 - $500)
affordabletrips.ca ($251 - $500)
AirportRentals.ca ($1001 - $1750)
albertabyowner.ca ($251 - $500)
BridalOnline.ca ($1001 - $1750)
Broke.ca ($5001 - $7500)
CanadianDrugStores.ca ($501 - $750)
CanadianTennis.ca ($1001 - $1750)
CarStore.ca ($1001 - $1750)
CheaperFlights.ca ($101 - $250)
CraftSales.ca ($501 - $750)
DiscountTours.ca ($1001 - $1750)
DivorceTips.ca ($501 - $750)
DownloadFreeRingtone(s).ca ($2 - $100)
DUILawyers.ca ($1001 - $1750)
EasyIncome.ca ($751 - $1000)
EcoVoyage.ca ($251 - $500)
EngineeringCareer.ca ($751 - $1000)
Enlargement(s).ca ($751 - $1000)
ExoticHolidays.ca ($1001 - $1750)
FashionOnline.ca ($2501 - $3750)
Fertiliser.ca ($1001 - $1750)
FitnessJob.ca ($751 - $1000)
FlightSearch.ca ($1001 - $1750)
Freebies.ca ($7501 - $10000)
FreelancingJobs.ca ($2501 - $3750)
FurnitureLiquidation.ca ($751 - $1000)
GayBlog.ca ($251 - $500)
GayCanada.ca ($3751 - $5000)
HealthGuide.ca ($1001 - $1750)
HearingAids.ca ($7501 - $10000)
Hired.ca ($7501 - $10000)
HockeyGame.ca ($1001 - $1750)
homegardens.ca ($251 - $500)
HowToDance.ca ($501 - $750)
iBlogs.ca ($751 - $1000)
InternetHelp.ca ($251 - $500)
InternetPhones.ca ($1751 - $2500)
JFK.ca ($1001 - $1750)
JointVenture.ca ($2501 - $3750)
KitchenWare.ca ($1001 - $1750)
Lake-Ontario.ca ($1001 - $1750)
LogosOnline.ca ($501 - $750)
Mask.ca ($3751 - $5000)
MontrealLaser.ca ($251 - $500)
MontrealTravel.ca ($1001 - $1750)
MusicJob.ca ($751 - $1000)
NutritionJob.ca ($751 - $1000)
OakvilleFlowers.ca ($501 - $750)
OnlineCoupons.ca ($1001 - $1750)
OnlineDates.ca ($2501 - $3750)
OnlineGaming.ca ($2501 - $3750)
OnlineStock.ca ($751 - $1000)
OnlineStocks.ca ($751 - $1000)
OrganicStore.ca ($1751 - $2500)
PharmaceuticalCareer.ca ($751 - $1000)
PizzaRestaurant(s).ca ($101 - $250)
PrivatePilots.ca ($501 - $750)
ProFootball.ca ($251 - $500)
QuebecHoneymoons.ca ($1001 - $1750)
RollerBlading.ca ($5001 - $7500)
SaskatoonRealtors.ca ($101 - $250)
SelfImprovement.ca ($1751 - $2500)
Sensual.ca ($10001 - $15000)
Shareware.ca ($15001 - $25000)
SingleChristian.ca ($251 - $500)
SmallJob.ca ($1001 - $1750)
SNN.ca ($251 - $500)
Snores.ca ($1751 - $2500)
SportsStore.ca ($501 - $750)
TechJobs.ca ($2501 - $3750)
TeddyBear.ca ($1001 - $1750)
Theme.ca ($2501 - $3750)
TNN.ca ($251 - $500)
TorontoComputer.ca ($251 - $500)
TorontoComputers.ca ($251 - $500)
TorontoDentists.ca ($2501 - $3750)
TravelAuction.ca ($2501 - $3750)
UniqueGifts.ca ($2501 - $3750)
UsedHouses.ca ($251 - $500)
UsedLaptops.ca ($1751 - $2500)
Valuable.ca ($501 - $750)
VancouverHomeForSale.ca ($101 - $250)
War.ca ($1751 - $2500)
Women.ca ($50000)


I can see a number of these getting picked up - there a few others I'm surprised they accepted the high reserve and can't see selling because of it. What do you think?

 

[DomainRecap]

This is your version of fair?

If Google and Amazon were Canadian, then yes, if they wanted to waste all their billions, then of course they could potentially own the TBR. Any Canadian company could, if they had a massive load of cash to burn.

But a real business needs to make profit to survive, so investing millions in infrastructure, labor, and software is idiotic when only a few domains each week might sell for 4-figures, with a couple each year (maybe) reaching 5-figures.

So yes, if a Canadian company wanted to burn all their money to get that tiny revenue stream, then it is possible, but no company with that amount of money could be so monumentally stupid.

And again, how does this differ from any other business sector? If Microsoft and Google wanted to own the American expired domain market, they could just buy up the top 5 backorder registrars (starting with GoDaddy) and they're off to the races.

Remember the golden rule of capitalism? Those with the Gold make the Rules.

 

[DomainRecap]

They would also need the script/technology, server connections and of course, the desire to want to do it.

And they'd have to buy back all their stock and then relocate to Canada as private firms. LOL

 

[MapleDots]

It's called CAPITALISM, and what you're advocating is closer to socialism, where the gov't entirely subsides the TBR from our tax money, and there is no reason for registrars to compete or spend or hire or improve.

Oh man, I have never voted for our new found socialist liberals. I am a conservative all the way.

I am calling for socialism by allowing a free market economy to dictate who can bid and win a domain?
Really? That is what you call socialism?

You are so entrenched in the current system that like a horse with blinders you refuse to see what is beside you. The current system cannot continue and it is only because the average Canadian has no idea how TBR works that is allowed to happen at all.

If the majority of .ca owners knew the BS of the TBR system then there would be an outcry. The entire system is geared to wholesalers and companies with fast and faster computers.

I want premium.ca, I approach one company like Canspace. Why in the world can I not bid on the domain. Maybe I have to approach myid with their incredibly convoluted control panel. I swear it's made to make you give up. Everything is done by hand, how is that? How can one company with all the technology to dominate the TBR have such an insanely outdated back end? I will tell you why.... so they can keep the domains or make the most profit selling them to the wholesalers.

Why would CIRA give up all that profit, do they really think it's better for Canadians to have the money end up in the pockets of two wholesalers?

So if I call for an end to a few wholesalers dominance I am considered a socialist?
Opening up the system to make it fair for everyone is called a socialistic move?
Ending a duopoly is being socialist?

Mother of all that is holy, the current Liberals are turning Canada into a socialist government under the guise of covid and you think my comment is socialism?

Maybe I will give you a few articles to read
https://nationalpost.com/opinion/leslyn-lewis-there-is-a-socialist-coup-unfolding-in-canada

https://www.google.com/search?newwindow=1&sxsrf=ALeKk00o8fk0WRB1FAvCv4D7kmYQq69izA:1601743798752&ei=tqt4X_S8LYrl_Qb5q7u4CQ&q=trudeau+socialism&oq=trud+socialism&gs_lcp=CgZwc3ktYWIQARgBMgQIABANMgYIABAHEB4yBAgAEA0yBAgAEA0yBggAEA0QHjIICAAQDRAKEB4yCAgAEA0QBRAeMggIABANEAUQHjIICAAQDRAFEB46BAgAEEc6BwgjELACECc6CAgAEAcQChAeOgQILhANOgQIABBDOgoIABCxAxCDARBDOgcIABCxAxBDUO3jA1il9wNg5p4EaABwAngAgAH3AYgB8giSAQU5LjEuMZgBAKABAaoBB2d3cy13aXrIAQjAAQE&sclient=psy-ab

I actually think it's quite insulting to an intelligent person to be called a socialist.
Socialist cannot think for themselves, they are looking for government handouts and when they get them they complain that it's not enough.

 

[DomainRecap]

While this conversation is amusing, your total lack of understanding that what you are proposing is a MONOPOLY makes any future discourse counterproductive.

You are looking at this solely from your own personal perspective, and not from a macroeconomic viewpoint. Your supposed "free market for consumers" is in actuality a steel-fisted monopoly reminiscent of a Cuban dictatorship, whereby state-run companies control entire business sectors with zero competition.

Having a single entity controlling an entire commercial business area is a monopoly.

Def: In a monopoly market, the seller faces no competition, as he is the sole seller of goods.

A market artificially limited to a one seller of a specific item (in this case .CA domains) = Monopoly.

I get it, You want the CIRA to create a Walmart-like entity, offering a monopolistic one-stop-shopping experience selling 100% of expired .CA domains, all nicely packaged and presented on the digital shelf for your viewing & buying pleasure. Easy-peasy... for you, but what about all the companies, employees, partners, suppliers, etc. that depend on the .CA for revenue?

Never going to happen, for very obvious governmental, legal, and economic reasons, and I can guarantee that, so these conversations are right up their with talking about the existence of elves, unicorns, and leprechauns.

I just don't see why instead of complaining, you don't just join the top TBR registrars and lay down bids on the admittedly-minuscule expired .CA domains you are interested in. After the initial sign-up it would take about 5 minutes to pre-order the 1-2 domains you would want during a given month.

Don't hate the game, rule it.

 

[MapleDots]

You are looking at this solely from your own personal perspective, and not from a macroeconomic viewpoint. Your supposed "free market for consumers" is in actuality a steel-fisted monopoly reminiscent of a Cuban dictatorship, whereby state-run companies control entire business sectors with zero competition.

Socialist to communist, this just keeps getting funnier all the time.

I realize a few of the members here are here because of the current TBR system and have vested interests in it. I understand I am questioning your business motto. I understand you would rather disguise my comments as being socialist or communist instead of keeping an open mind to change.

Change needs to come to the TBR and if you disagree with that then you are wrong. Registering a new .ca is fair to everyone, asking that dropped domains be made available to everyone in a similar fair fashion is a cuban dictatorship? OMG!

Having CIRA distribute dropped .ca domains fairly is a monopoly?
Then are all the ccTLD's not monopolies? Are they not meant to be monopolies for the country they are intended for?

Can you call it a monopoly when it is fair for all Canadians to own one. Will that then be called socialism?
If I put CIRA in charge of that system then it's communism?

Seriously you need to choose your euphemisms more carefully.

 

[nafti]

@DomainRecap You’re up. You have 2 minutes with no interruptions!

 

[MapleDots]

@DomainRecap You’re up. You have 2 minutes with no interruptions!
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Well at least you have part of it right nafti.

Encumbant (current system) vs change.

At this point I would even take most anything including the old fart Biden over the current system.

 

[nafti]

At this point I would even take most anything including the old fart Biden over the current system.

If Biden gets in, I will say that he doesn’t complete his full term! Health being the issue I believe.

 

[DomainRecap]

Nevermind.

 

[drewd]

I want premium.ca, I approach one company like Canspace. Why in the world can I not bid on the domain. Maybe I have to approach myid with their incredibly convoluted control panel. I swear it's made to make you give up. Everything is done by hand, how is that? How can one company with all the technology to dominate the TBR have such an insanely outdated back end? I will tell you why.... so they can keep the domains or make the most profit selling them to the wholesalers.]


MapleDots sorry man I am sure you are a very cool guy but I have no idea what you are talking about. I'll ask again..Have you ever participated in TBR?

Among all the TBR providers you decided that you only want to work with Canspace? Are you serious now?

It's like betting on a bicycle with one wheel in a race with many superfast cars and then raising hell as to why you lose every time.

How does that make sense? Please explain.

And then who is telling you that once you bid on a domain, no one else can? It's definitely not one of the following:

Dot-ca-registry
baremetal
sibername
myid
pool
fastweb
namespro

?

Is it Canreg? or maybe a company that does not even participate in TBR?

Are you still using Netscape version 1 browser just because you like it and you are upset that they cannot render any website correctly? You just want that one browser to rule the net because you feel it is convenient for you not to install another browser? Do you still watch movies on betamax and argue that everyone should use them too?

And what is so difficult about TBR? Really what is so confusing and difficult?

Here's a guide quick to make your mission easier.

1) Dot-Ca-Registry:

-Login
-Click on TBR at top
-Click on bulk order
-Enter the domains you want
-Confirm
-Specify Prices and submit.
-Done. Total elapsed time is less than 1 minute.

2) Sibername:

-Login
-Click on 'backorder a domain
-Enter list of domains and submit
-Confirm
-Done. Total elapsed time is less than 1 minute

3) myid:

-Login
-Click on TBR
-Enter list of domains and submit
-Confirm
-Done. Total elapsed time is less than one minute.

You get the idea. And it is basically same for Namespro, Baremetal, and Fastweb all of whom end up getting domains and sometimes premium ones.

If you keep using Canspace exclusively while knowing that Canspace never really gets anything in TBR, and yet keep on expecting different results then what are you really thinking really? You know the Einstein quote about keeping on doing the same thing and expecting a different outcome?

You seem to be under the impression that the whole world should change just to fit your way of doing things. You want to destroy TBR just because it suits you and is more convenient for you. I guess we can safely answer the question as to who you believe the world revolves around.

CIRA does not allow registrars to keep any expiring domain without that domain going to TBR. Accordingly it is impossible for the .com shenanigans to happen in .ca. The TBR results are published every week at same time. They state clearly the time of acquisition and the winning registrar. The results are very transparent making it easy to spot when some error has occurred like last Wednesday. And now CIRA has upped its game and only re-runs affected domains instead of all batch. And CIRA has increased its domain price once in its 20 years of operation. And all .ca owners get free privacy by default. What more can anyone ask for from any registry? Show me one registry out there that is fairer and more transparent. I think CIRA has done a fabulous job so far.

Any company can become a TBR player if they want to invest tons of money for a fighting chance in few domains each week. Majority of domains are acquired for less than $20 each. Do the math and you will realize that the party that makes the most TBR money each year is CIRA. They are paid for each connection and each registration. There are probably 150 of these if not more. That's $150k to CIRA each year. Dot-ca-registry and Baremetal charge $12, $10 of which go to CIRA. Same for baremetal. Sibername and Namespro charge $20 and give half to CIRA. If you run the numbers, you wonder how these companies even make ends meet.

I doubt anyone else here want current system to change so that Canspace, the TBR ignoramus, becomes the mighty TBR player. The idea is just so out there and makes no sense. Now if you own Canspace then that's a different story. Actually if you do won Canspace then all would make sense.

But I have no doubt you are a very cool guy. And a very rich one. So it is probably in our best interest for you to keep using Canspace and cry foul about it for the next 20 years So ignore all this post man. Go Canspace Go.

 

[MapleDots]

@drewd
I notice you coming out of the woodwork because you see someone taking the TBR process to task. Funny how you post 12 times in 13 years and I get the privilege of a response when I question the TBR process.

Tbr is a joke, in the real world top bid wins. This registrar and auction chasing is a bunch of bull.

Of course everyone with a vested interest is going to defend it. Cira is a joke for allowing this, nothing about the current system is fair unless one spends hours reading stupid lists and chasing auctions.

Seriously, who has time for this crap?

Bunch of hens all chasing the same piece of corn trying to steal it from the next guy.

In a real system, highest bid wins. The current system gives the domain to the highest bid in a closed group of people.

In the real world if I wanted the domain I would outbid half of them. It's only because I can't join the auction that I cannot bid. I have to try and guess which company is going to win the domain and if I picked wrong I cannot bid.

Please explain how this is fair!!

Life is too short for this, picking up a TBR should be a short process where the highest bidder takes it and the profits should be retained by CIRA. The profits should then be re-invested into a program to give loans to new businesses starting on a .ca domain. Something similar to that, anything but lining the pockets of the same people month after month!!

 

[JudgeMind]

Sold WellnessShop.ca for $1999 recently
Still have WellnessStore.ca

 

[MapleDots]

Sold WellnessShop.ca for $1999 recently
Still have WellnessStore.ca

I have several online stores... I use both shop and store and my preference is shop.
Not that it really matters because both are great.

 

[JudgeMind]

I have several online stores... I use both shop and store and my preference is shop.
Not that it really matters because both are great.

thats actually the second time I sold wellnessshop.ca

I have a few others in .ca

armyshop
Allshop
Luxshop
Kidsshop
Coolshop
Chefshop

 

[MapleDots]

I sold a .ca domain to an online store for 35k a while back, it was a two word ending in store.

I took part ownership in the company as payment.

 

[DomainRecap]

Holy NNN.ca TBR explosion Batman!

 

[nafti]

Holy NNN.ca TBR explosion Batman!

Looks like AD is doing some early spring cleaning! For those that don’t know, he was a previous owner of “the other forum”. He still owns thousands of great .ca‘s as well as generic .com including rams dot com.

 

[Bob Hawkes]

he was a previous owner of “the other forum”

There is another domain forum? This is the only one I need

Seriously, anyone know if AD is trimming his overall domain portfolio, or mainly cutting out certain types of .ca?

For those who have been in .ca for a long time, has there been a marked change in the type of .ca that sell over the years, do people think?

Bob

 

[DomainRecap]

For those who have been in .ca for a long time, has there been a marked change in the type of .ca that sell over the years, do people think?

Personally speaking, I feel the LLL.ca market has jumped the shark and I have had zero viable inquiries on any of mine (ranging from premium to low-end/pronounceable) in years, and I have not see any notable sales in a very long time.

In 2016-17 I sold several LLLs, but I don't think any since then. It's like the market has moved on to short words and first names.

And the stuff that currently sells for me is extremely random, and with the pandemic still raging, it's very difficult to determine overall trends right now. But damn, I am really thinking twice about putting any more $$$ into LLLs.

 

[MapleDots]

Looks like AD is doing some early spring cleaning! For those that don’t know, he was a previous owner of “the other forum”. He still owns thousands of great .ca‘s as well as generic .com including rams dot com.

I bought a number of .com and .ca's from Adam.
He is often spoken about in a negative way but with me has has been straight up with no bs.

We do deals for thousands on a handshake, he transfers domains before I even pay him.
We have done a number of financial transactions back and forth and nothing untoward has ever occured.

He is mainly looking at 2 letter .ca's at the moment, I know he is aggressively buying them so he might be culling his oddball 3 numbers/letters.

 

[MapleDots]

Save someone the time looking

1id.ca
5ms.ca
601.ca
636.ca
656.ca
804.ca
805.ca
822.ca
a3a.ca
ahc.ca
b62.ca
cos.ca
dl1.ca
dm1.ca
go1.ca
gqq.ca
h-5.ca
m3q.ca
oo0.ca
su0.ca
t62.ca
vef.ca
wn2.ca

Don't forget the 2 letter bk.ca!

Looking really fast 1id.ca almost looked like lid.ca

 

[DomainRecap]

Looking really fast 1id.ca almost looked like lid.ca

It's that CIRA font, and it's almost caught me a few times.

 

[cabotower]

i dropped...oo0.ca...within the past year or so. looks like whoever picked it up did the same thing. at the same time also dropped 0oo and o0o. oo0.ca doesn't expire until 08-27-21. what's it doing on the TBR?

 

[DomainRecap]

He can now see into the future and realized it would never sell.

 

[MapleDots]

He can now see into the future and realized it would never sell.

The only 3 number domain I ever tried to acquire was 911.ca

I was going to launch a service which registers emergency contact information for children and pets on a bracelet/necklace.
Each child would have had a unique subdomain: edward.911.ca

If you found a lost child or had an emergency situation you could go edward.911.ca and all the emergency contact information would come up. ie allergies, emergency contact numbers of parents, school info etc. Very similar to the medical alert bracelet concept except it adds info in case a child is lost and the parent would have been able to customize fields to their liking.

I made several offers on the domain but if memory serves me correctly the owner was looking around the 75k mark.

I ended up making bracelets and a custom site for my kids and pets but I never developed the concept commercially.