Domainaholic problem: I want more and then more, I want it all

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do you have that feeling?

do you wake up all wet thinking to have got SEX (.com) ?

can`t you resist a juicy CVCV.com?

Are you thinking more than 10 times a day about that particular auction?

When you see a LLL.com your tongue needs some water?

Did you name your dog ".com"?

do you call your wife/partner "Baby.com"?

Uhmmmm....we are in trouble.
 
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Most LLL's make me chuckle, as do most "domainers domains".
If it's
1) A "theme name"
2) That "theme" has it's own acronym
...it's a domainers domain and if you cannot articulate why that domain has any value beyond other "domainers" who insist it has value (for example, it's a desirable acronym rather than three random letters), then it's garbage.

The only thing that gets me excited are undervalued keywords in underrepresented, lucrative niches with bigbig clicks, fat affiliate programs and pure geo. That's pretty much it. Occasionally, a good I or E prefix keyword, too...

I'll leave collecting the LLL/LLLL/CVCV/VCVC/CVVC/VCCV/NNN/NNNN/NNL/NLL/LNL/YouGetTheIdea... to the "domainers". I'm more concerned with making money.
 
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Most LLL's make me chuckle, as do most "domainers domains".
If it's
1) A "theme name"
2) That "theme" has it's own acronym
...it's a domainers domain and if you cannot articulate why that domain has any value beyond other "domainers" who insist it has value (for example, it's a desirable acronym rather than three random letters), then it's garbage.

The only thing that gets me excited are undervalued keywords in underrepresented, lucrative niches with bigbig clicks, fat affiliate programs and pure geo. That's pretty much it. Occasionally, a good I or E prefix keyword, too...

I'll leave collecting the LLL/LLLL/CVCV/VCVC/CVVC/VCCV/NNN/NNNN/NNL/NLL/LNL/YouGetTheIdea... to the "domainers". I'm more concerned with making money.


uhmmmm I see your point but based on facts/statistics CVCV.com and LLL.com are hot property, hence MONEY.

"big clicks" are quite hard to find these days.
 
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uhmmmm I see your point but based on facts/statistics CVCV.com and LLL.com are hot property, hence MONEY.

Tulip mania

Also, any random LLL.com is selling for less money than it did in the not too distant past...
 
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Tulip mania

Also, any random LLL.com is selling for less money than it did in the not too distant past...


Forget the tulips or the postcards, let`s be real, US notes as well are paper with ink and they keep losing money so what? As long as you can do something with it, it`s all good. It`s a trade after all.

Regarding LLLcom prices, are you sure?

http://www.namepros.com/3678647-post1858.html


$65,000 for a LLL which is not a word does not seems to be cheap to be even if its USD.
 
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Acronyms ARE valuable; they mean something and thus have value.

But random LLL combinations which don't mean anything don't have any value to regular end-users. Well, they do have value for domainers who collect such things, so in this case the "end-user" is the domainer. Which explains the $xxxx price tag.

I think that's what Dongsman tried to say. I agree with him.
 
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Did you name your dog ".com"?

do you call your wife/partner "Baby.com"?

No, but I have been known to take my dog out and say "go do your .biz" :) :).

(Short domains don't do much for me - I prefer generics to acronyms, but to each their own.)
 
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No, but I have been known to take my dog out and say "go do your .biz" :) :).

Oh Noooo, that one might stick in my head for a long time, thanks a lot. :wave:
 
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http://www.namepros.com/3678647-post1858.html


$65,000 for a LLL which is not a word does not seems to be cheap to be even if its USD.

Yes, I'm totally sure that LLL's are selling for less today than they were in 2007 and you must be REALLY new to this game to cite an example of one name as being indicative of the broader "LLL.com tulip market". There are an array of reasons why any given name might bring decent money, but no reason whatsoever why XJQ.com or VXH.com means anything to anyone, other than a "domainer" who is caught up in the windhandel and has been led to believe that this crap has value.

I can understand people willing to overpay good money for novelty factor (I collect watches- believe me, I know this...) but the idea that there's an underlying "value" beyond the presence of a next greater fool is absurd and always will be.
 
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if only i followed my own advice ,,,,,, quality not quantity
 
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do you have that feeling?


Did you name your dog ".com"?

do you call your wife/partner "Baby.com"?

Uhmmmm....we are in trouble.

Hahahahahaha....

Its an addiction, allright....:)


When I regged a .tel, I knew this thing was getting hold of me...

....Since then, I've decided to get a whole lot more disciplined about it....

Quality....Analysis....A business case for a name....An articulated ROI strategy....ie if I can't actually put into words exactly how/why a domain will pay me back at a profit, then I pass on it...


...and hope, is not an ROI strategy....:)

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if only i followed my own advice ,,,,,, quality not quantity

...and if you decide to have quantity, make sure they are quality. :D
 
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An Extraordinary Topic...

the broader "LLL.com tulip market"...
....but the idea that there's an underlying "value" beyond the presence of a next greater fool is absurd and always will be.

"Extraordinary popular delusions and the madness of crowds" by Scottish journalist Charles Mackay, is a great book, especially the chapter on Holland's tulip mania. However, there was no long-term limit on the number of "rare" bulbs which could be produced.

1) There is a set limit on the number of LL and LLL .com's.
2) Over time an increasing number get taken by real companies, so they become even more rare.
3) Buy now (if you can), while the prices are lower. :tu:
 
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Hahahahahaha....

Its an addiction, allright....:)


When I regged a .tel, I knew this thing was getting hold of me...

....Since then, I've decided to get a whole lot more disciplined about it....

Quality....Analysis....A business case for a name....An articulated ROI strategy....ie if I can't actually put into words exactly how/why a domain will pay me back at a profit, then I pass on it...


...and hope, is not an ROI strategy....:)

.


You regged a .tel ???? D-:D-:D-:

Mate...you and I need to talk :lala::P
 
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"Extraordinary popular delusions and the madness of crowds" by Scottish journalist Charles Mackay, is a great book, especially the chapter on Holland's tulip mania. However, there was no long-term limit on the number of "rare" bulbs which could be produced.

1) There is a set limit on the number of LL and LLL .com's.
2) Over time an increasing number get taken by real companies, so they become even more rare.
3) Buy now (if you can), while the prices are lower. :tu:

Basic precepts of capital efficiency pretty much dictate that pointless, irrelevant LLL.com's are almost never the correct decision from an investment standpoint (save for a real freak-of-nature scenario, like encountering one that's so drastically under priced, profiting from it isn't much more than bending over to pick up the free money laying on the sidewalk).

I've never, ever been presented with a situation where, out of all the names listed on the open market, buying a LLL.com has been the best option for my available capital. Like, they've never even been fourth or fifth runner-up.

Further, while LLL.com's might be "finite" in a thematic sense, that doesn't provide any meaningful comment on their intrinsic "value". Without even getting into advanced stuff; if you deconstruct the basic metrics that go into supporting value for any given domain name, you soon realize that almost none of them are present in irrelevant LLL.com's. The fact that they- as a broader theme- are 'finite' is sort of immaterial in a game where every name is unique as a fingerprint to begin with (and valued accordingly).

I will concede this... There is a factor in the human animal that is deeply irrational and LLL.com's seem to strike right at that 'thing'. We see it when people pay $100,000,000 for a painting, or $250,000 for a wristwatch. LLL's are hubris names and as long as there's a perception of 'swagger' to their ownership, it will always be hard to quantify their real worth and it's entirely possible that they may rise in value over time- it wouldn't shock me one bit to see people get even more maniacal about them as time goes on... Still, as a guy who *always* bases my decisions on fundamental value drivers over anything else, they do absolutely nothing for me.

When I think of all the mind-bogglingly under priced names that are sitting out there, right now, and how much earning potential they have over time, I just cannot wrap my mind around why anyone would want to buy xjz.com over a name that, upon development, has fantastic potential to attain relevance in it's keyword niche and deliver a durable monthly paycheck ad infinitum. Is impressing a bunch of 'domainers'- with a stupid short domain name- worth burning up your precious capital and thusly forsaking that kind of income opportunity?
Hell no.
 
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You can get a random LLL.com and make a brand out of it for your company. Given the rareness of LLL.coms, it will add immediately to the credibility of the company. Reason being that there are not too many small bs companies with its own LLL.com.

I think comparing lll.com to tulip mania is not adequate.
 
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you can make a brand out of a random LLLL.com, too, for 1/1000th the price.

The 'credibility" aspect of 'shortness' is profoundly overstated by domainers (if it even exists at all). The public doesn't comprehend or emphasize "domain shortness credibility" as much as this inbred community does- certainly not to a degree of disproportion as reflected by the sales price random LLL.com's... with letters that have no inherent 'meaning', save for the fact that there are only three of them.

I believe in the power of brands, but I'd rather have a good CVCV/VCVC with pronounceable 'snap' for the purpose of branding, over some garbage arrangement of backwater letters that have no inherent meaning.

If given the choice to build a brand on folo.com or nxv.com, give me folo.com 100% of the time.

(For the record, a name like noy.com is a great LLL brandable and I'd take that over most any cvcv/vcvc abstract arrangement, but that's an outlying exception.)
 
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Dongsman,

good arguments )

And names like folo.com do really command prices above some LLL.coms

Still 95% of 3 letter combos at least is used by a company somewhere and usually by many. They often promote themselves by the LLL or by the LLL+industy.

Let's say for a specific LLL there are 50 companies around the world. The one which will buy LLL.com will become the "alpha" LLL brand holder. It will also give itself chance go become global some day (it is hard to give a global feel if your domain is LLL.ir). It will also provide that it does not send traffic to others, get's traffic from others and helps its customers to find itself easier. And all of that for 5k-20k is really cheap. Even a small company spends on office furniture more than that.

Excluding very good LLLLs like folo or, for that matter, even some LLLLLs, a random LLL would be much easier to remember than a random LLLL. And, of course, the fact that there are only 17576 of those, as mentioned before by others, does help.

And to prove the points above, absolute majority of LLL.coms come with some natural traffic. 90% of the ones I recently bought have an Alexa rank without any development averaging 7,000,000. Given that there are around 250 million websites for now, that says something.
 
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you can make a brand out of a random LLLL.com, too, for 1/1000th the price.

The 'credibility" aspect of 'shortness' is profoundly overstated by domainers (if it even exists at all). The public doesn't comprehend or emphasize "domain shortness credibility" as much as this inbred community does- certainly not to a degree of disproportion as reflected by the sales price random LLL.com's... with letters that have no inherent 'meaning', save for the fact that there are only three of them.

I believe in the power of brands, but I'd rather have a good CVCV/VCVC with pronounceable 'snap' for the purpose of branding, over some garbage arrangement of backwater letters that have no inherent meaning.

If given the choice to build a brand on folo.com or nxv.com, give me folo.com 100% of the time.

(For the record, a name like noy.com is a great LLL brandable and I'd take that over most any cvcv/vcvc abstract arrangement, but that's an outlying exception.)


mate, no offense but I think you missed the point of my topic. This was not about LLL.com or CVCV.com or other short domains, which anyway to me are really good but I used them as example of what "turns me ON" :D

Same is if I see domains such "gold.com" or "laywer.com" :xf.love:
 
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