DAN.COM Domain Marketplace (Official Thread)

[DAN.COM]

DAN.COM (formerly known as Undeveloped.com) is on a path to be become the biggest domain marketplace in the world. We use state of the art technology to solve everyday problems buyers and sellers in the domain industry face. At DAN.COM we focus on automating most processes required to buy & sell domains to increase a more efficient and active secondary market for domains.

What sets us apart is our strong focus on product development and customer satisfaction. We leave nothing to chance and every single feature and element we introduce is professionally and carefully designed and built.

DAN.COM is ranked in the top 5 best-rated marketplaces in the world (According to the biggest review platform Trustpilot) and in the domain industry, we're the domain marketplace with the highest rating with an average of 9,4 out of 10 points.

At DAN.COM you will get the highest value for the lowest commission around. Due to our domain transfer automation, we can offer significantly faster handling of domain transactions and payouts (usually within 24 hours) at the lowest fee charged by any domain marketplace.

We've been the first on many fronts and proudly will continue to keep innovating. We were the first to offer optimized for sale pages since 2013, the first to provide payment plans in the form of lease to own and rentals and also the first and only domain marketplace offering free SSL on all domains parked with us for over a year now.

Read more about DAN and our future plans here: https://blog.undeveloped.com/a-big-leap-forward-3a3cc59ed418

This thread is created to act as an informal communication board between the DAN team and the domain community. Feel free to post feedback here and to discuss how you use DAN.

What this thread is not meant for is support. Please contact our support team here: [email protected] when you need assistance.

Previous reviews under old brand: https://www.namepros.com/threads/undeveloped-com-experience.893201/

 

[Bob Hawkes]

I am noticing today but it's the first time I checked in awhile, other names are not showing when you click someone's link or at the bottom of a parked page where it says other domains from this person, is this just a glitch? Others getting that? I just clicked one of the BuyDomains names NameMarket linked to and it shows 0 when clicking their name too.

I just checked now and that is happening for me too. Must be some issue.

 

[EmpireNames.com]

@LaszloSchenk
how your system select domain in popular domains of the week?
is it automated or handpicked?
Thanks

 

[namemarket]

An NP member has said he thinks it's possible DAN mainly gives preference to ones listed a long time on Dan.com so it moves up (but he was not sure).

It may or may not be correct but anyway If it's valid I have a big issues with it. Why in the world would DAN code their system to give bias favoring how long listed for sale on Dan? How long listed for sale means absolutely nothing as far as name value goes. How could it possibly be a factor?

Would a semi-worthless domain listed 2 years ago be more valuable vs a real true premium name listed for sale on DAN last week? Of course not.

So if DAN is indeed doing that in its search algorithm it speaks wonders about the intelligence of management who would desire it to be included in the code.

 

[Jurgen Wolf]

Why you focus on this matter???
These searches are mostly used by another domainers like you...
Endusers visit the necessary domain directly.

I can say even more: searchbox works against your success...
Because endusers see your competitors as well.

 

[Bob Hawkes]

Dan have done wonders automating the transfer process.
They also set standards for elegant landers that build trust.

So here is my challenge to DAN/Undeveloped - build the world's best marketplace search experience! @LaszloSchenk

I think the average potential client has an unsatisfying experience with search at the main marketplaces. There are too many options presented in a way without clarity. I think an automated robotic interface could do much better.

Why not start with asking them just a few questions (with well selected text to provide only strongly relevant background on each).

1. Are they only interested in com? If they say yes, prioritize .com If they say no, explore more
2. Are they looking for a regional name? If so ask the country or countries. If they say yes, put domain names from that country code top, if not don't show them at all in first stage search results.
3. Are they hoping for an exact match to a phrase? If so what are the important words in that phrase. They should in first pass be only shown words that match that phrase across the dot, and then some close matches such as plural/singular etc.
4. What is their price range? They should be shown first domain names with a BIN in their price range. Shown others, but first ones in price range.
5. Are they looking for an instalment purchase? If so prioritize domain names with plans. Same rental.
6. What is their niche? This is more important than the exact words, perhaps. Like is it AI? Is it banking? And force each lister to choose from keyword niches used by the bot.
7. Are they looking for brandable or generic? And text that shows what those terms mean.
8. Is search volume important? Not sure how to simply word this.
9. Is length of domain important, and if so what is the maximum length?

I have probably forgotten a few, but I would not make it too complicated. Make the experience feel personal, even add some text around the results. Like this name is slightly over your price range, but we feel fits your parameters well. Or these domain names exactly match the term you are looking for. Etc. Robotic but with a personal feel.

It should also have a statement that the bot named Darlene (or something Dan complementary) will genuinely prioritize according to the user requests, and no one can buy a higher placement.

What say you?

Bob

ps Not to be exclusive, but this is DAN's thread, but @Rob Monster and @namesilo and @Joe Styler and @Macit and @Sedo, why not an industry leaders race to make the best search in the domain world?

 

[namemarket]

....endusers see your competitors as well.

Thanks for your opinion. What you said is actually a reason I am focused on the matter. If the end-users see competitors on the list and I am not in the top-10 or low down, they may be inclined to inquire on someone else's name instead of my exact match.

 

[Jurgen Wolf]

Has Dan.com become the go to for low ballers and fake buyers/offers?

I post this after having literally dozens of fake buyers (non-payments) and a steady stream of lowball offers where buyers are not willing to negotiate a reasonable price for a name.

Is this happening to others?

Yes, this is the only result I got at UD for 1 year of its usage in full (listing+parking) with mid xx domains (test pattern).

So just their escrow has benefits for me in some scenarios.

 

[namemarket]

Dan have done wonders automating the transfer process. They also set standards for elegant landers that build trust.

So here is my challenge to DAN/Undeveloped - build the worlds best marketplace search experience. @LaszloSchenk

I think the average potential client has an unsatisfying experience with search at the main marketplaces. There are too many options presented in a way without clarity. I think an automated robotic interface could do much better.

Why not start with asking them just a few questions (with well selected text to provide only strongly relevant background on each).

1. Are they only interested in com? If they say yes, prioritize .com If they say no, explore more
2. Are they looking for a regional name? If so ask the country or countries. If they say yes, put domain names from that country code top, if not don't show them at all in first stage search results.
3. Are they hoping for an exact match to a phrase? If so what are the important words in that phrase. They should in first pass be only shown words that match that phrase across the dot, and then some close matches such as plural/singular etc.
4. What is their price range? They should be shown first domain names with a BIN in their price range. Shown others, but first ones in price range.
5. Are they looking for an instalment purchase? If so prioritize domain names with plans. Same rental.
6. What is their niche? This is more important than the exact words, perhaps. Like is it AI? Is it banking? And force each lister to choose from keyword niches used by the bot.
7. Are they looking for brandable or generic? And text that shows what those terms mean.
8. Is search volume important? Not sure how to simply word this.
9. Is length of domain important, and if so what is the maximum length?

I have probably forgotten a few, but I would not make it too complicated. Make the experience feel personal, even add some text around the results. Like this name is slightly over your price range, but we feel fits your parameters well. Or these domain names exactly match the term you are looking for. Etc. Robotic but with a personal feel.

It should also have a statement that the bot named Darlene (or something Dan complementary) will genuinely prioritize according to the user requests, and no one can buy a higher placement.

What say you?

Bob

ps Not to be exclusive, but this is DAN's thread, but @Rob Monster and @namesilo and @Joe Styler and @Macit and @Sedo, why not an industry leaders race to make the best search in the domain world?

Thanks! That would be incredibly good and if it was implemented whoever did it could dominate the business.

 

[Bob Hawkes]

That would be incredibly good and if it was implemented whoever did it could dominate the business.

Precisely.

The US 50 years ago successfully landed men on the moon, and returned them safely, using computational power less than the most basic smart phone of four years ago. And we can't create a simplified user-focussed domain search experience?

I think it not only would allow whoever did it first to have a big advantage, but overall it would significantly expand the domain aftermarket. Too many possible clients are overwhelmed, confused, aggravated, or have no trust in the current system and as a result the vast majority are not buying any domain at all. They hand-register or use a service like Wix without their own second level domain name, or social media pages.

Think of the analytics which would be available from the searches too. Most people are looking for a domain name in this price range, the space sharing niche is really strong lately, and they don't care about length but they would like .... Intelligence is power.

Think how easy Google make it to navigate from point A to B with any constraints you want (I want it by bicycle, public transit, arrive at this time, etc.). We need that ease for finding a domain name along with trustworthy fast transfer and easy steps to go from owning the domain name to a web presence.

Bob

 

[Jurgen Wolf]

Sedo ranking is also very bad...
They prefer to show various 2/3word .COMs and .COM synonyms HIGHER than 1word (exact match) domains in another TLDs...

 

[Jurgen Wolf]

So looks that all these marketplaces are tuned for Verisign...
At least for me.

 

[1Darko]

Has Dan.com become the go to for low ballers and fake buyers/offers?

I post this after having literally dozens of fake buyers (non-payments) and a steady stream of lowball offers where buyers are not willing to negotiate a reasonable price for a name.

Is this happening to others?

welcome to the club

 

[Bob Hawkes]

Has Dan.com become the go to for low ballers and fake buyers/offers?

I post this after having literally dozens of fake buyers (non-payments) and a steady stream of lowball offers

You undoubtedly have a much higher quality and larger portfolio than me, but that has not been my experience at DAN. Do you have a minimum offer set? I do have that set on all my domain names at a value high enough that I am more than willing to have a conversation, so perhaps I am, for better or worse, discouraging some who might otherwise do that. I have just so far had a handful of transactions on DAN but they all paid up promptly. Anyway, where you asked just wanted to share my experience.

So when someone does not pay, that locks up the domain from listing for awhile I guess? How long is that?

Bob

 

[Jurgen Wolf]

So when someone does not pay, that locks up the domain from listing for awhile I guess? How long is that?

Until you cancel it via request to their team...
From my experience: ~1 week is enough to be cancelled.

 

[namemarket]

Sedo ranking is also very bad...
They prefer to show various 2/3word .COMs and .COM synonyms HIGHER than 1word (exact match) domains in another TLDs...

I don't use Sedo and not aware they were doing that like DAN is. It's a very negative thing to exact match. In fact, it's a reason I am letting over 1/2 of my org's drop and not buying newer tlds again and marking majority of what I do have as non-auto renew..

 

[Jurgen Wolf]

I use Sedo only for some BIN domains... no more than mid xx domains.
95%+ of my portfolio is parked at Bodis and ParkingCrew... ~50/50.

 

[FavourB]

Sedo ranking is also very bad...
They prefer to show various 2/3word .COMs and .COM synonyms HIGHER than 1word (exact match) domains in another TLDs...

There's is understandable, because we know .com is king

 

[Jurgen Wolf]

There's is understandable, because we know .com is king

Some kind of https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religious_fanaticism
Just FYI.

 

[Lox]

End users using registrars search tool / suggestions, if the price is way to high/ not showing they’ll type in (curiosity) and end on y landing page.

Brokers, competitors, researchers, etc surfing the sedo, afternic, dan, always.

 

[Bob Hawkes]

I don't use Sedo and not aware they were doing that like DAN is

I have not extensively tested it but have done some and for me there are results.

Let's say I have the domain name advisors.best listed at Sedo and I search first on advisors. As @Jurgen Wolf says the search results will give priority to legacy extensions of the exact word advisors and then new ones in an order not clear to me. I was about 2/3 down a page, after some promoted ones.

If I search Sedo though for AdvisorsBest then they make advisors.best first in the search results. In this way they are better than DAN who would not show the name anywhere at all, even low in search. Totally missing. Which is what our complaint is essentially about. It depends on how likely the searcher is to get your order right how well you do. For example I have guaranteed.best at Sedo and if I search on guaranteedbest it is number one in search.

Interestingly at Sedo if I search BestAdvisors I don't understand the results. Well a little and they are pretty funny actually. HotGuide.com is the best match to BestAdvisors. I suspect that is not exactly the domain name a financial advisor is searching for, but who knows. And just to be sure they also offer me hot-guide in .com a bit down page and even HotGuide in .net. They really push that. I presume thinking hot is like best sort of and guide is like advisors. It is rather funny. Someone should start a thread on the funniest search results in a domain marketplace.

Bob