Labeled as guide in The Break Room, started by Compassion, Jun 24, 2020
How Vitamin C Helps Immunity
Regarding the evidence of this research:
Influenza Vaccination and Respiratory Virus Interference Among Department of Defense Personnel During the 2017-2018 Influenza Season
This is extremely conclusive. For those with medical backgrounds and for those who understand statistical significance, the evidence is clear.
For those who spout "fake news" every single time material threatening confirmation bias is presented, here is the Conclusion section of the PubMed article for you to not turn away from for 30 seconds while you read it.
Conclusions: Receipt of influenza vaccination was not associated with virus interference among our population. Examining virus interference by specific respiratory viruses showed mixed results. Vaccine derived virus interference was significantly associated with coronavirus and human metapneumovirus; however, significant protection with vaccination was associated not only with most influenza viruses, but also parainfluenza, RSV, and non-influenza virus coinfections.
I dunno, I think we need @topdom to provide some rational feedback on the situation..
Part of "science" is just statistics. Statistics is important, and it is some kind of science.
You can look at 2 things and their correlation, which is a number between -1 and 1. Or in angle terms, an angle between 0 and 180. If the correlation is positive (angle less than 90 degrees) then we talk about positive correlation.
If there is a positive correlation, sometimes it is intentionally incorrectly interpreted as cause-effect relationship. for example if there is inflamation, "bad cholesterol " (LDL) goes up. High LDL may be a bad sign, but "the western science of medicine" interpretes this as "high LDL disease", and some drugs called statins are prescribed to forecefully reduce LDL levels. But this is like getting rid of firemen when there is a fire. firemen are not the problem, the fire is. So, the source of the problem is ignored, and a symptom is treated and quite often things get worse.
This is an extremely common logic. Someone at the top tells a big lie, using corrupt medical institutions , and all doctors in the world are forced to obey orders based on those lies.
I haven't heard of virus interference before (maybe it is just a coincidence, it can mean a correlation which has nothing to do with a cause-effect type of thing, something else might be causing a correlation).
I didn't, and wouldn't take any flue vaccine. I would take "Tetanus vaccine" if needed, even if I know I can get rid of the infection just with colloidal silver.
I wouldn't take corona vaccine. Probably it would be an evil vaccine. I protect myself, but there might be immune issues I may not be aware of , and maybe virus killers may not be enough (really not sure about it). Then I would try to get plasma from a recovered person.
How does corona kill. It is mostly about immune system. In my interpretation (maybe I heard about it from somewhere) there are two aspects of the immune system (just doing a simplification): intelligence, and army. army kills the virus, but intelligence part of the immune system gives information about the enemy, and how to fight against it.... We don't need a very powerful army. We need a well working intelligence system. Healthy gut flora is a very important part of this intelligence. And past encounters with invaders are also part of it. There are trillions of bacteria in out intestines which help us with our fight against invaders. If we help them they help us.
So if our immune system is dumb, what do we get: allergies, autoimmune diseaes like MS, type-1 diabetes, hashimoto's thyroid, rheumatoid arthritis. etc.. In corona case, we may hurt ourselves instead of hurting the virus. So silencing the army part of the immune system with a drug may help. You can't improve intelligence part with a drug (with a vaccine, maybe,..), and as replacement for the army you can use things like, zinc, oxygen, ascorbic acid (as known as vit-c, but not exactly). Improving gut flora may help but I'm not sure, it would be a long term project.
I haven't read stuff above yet.. Maybe later I will.
In Yahoo news I heard, a healthy looking doctor in his 40s was infected with corona, was in a very bad condition, and was eventually saved with a drug called Acterma and tons of other things (like a device acting as external lung and heart).. In my interpreation above Acterma would silence the army and help reduce unnecessary and harmful inflamation caused by dumb immune system.. I'm not saying that drug is good, but just supporting the idea above. ....
HCQ drug may be also working in a similar way, if it works. But looks like, the deepstate is against that drug and they force their drug: remdesivir, although WHO accidentally relased a research which showed that it is a useless drug.
You can see an instance of the war between the deepstate, and anti-deepstate , by looking at what they recommend for c.v. treatment. Trump praises HCQ, deepstate praises remdesivir.
I would probably not take either but if forced to choose one, I would choose HCQ.
Germany is against HCQ, because; Merkel is Hitler's daughter, and so she is a top d.s. member?
Does vit C help with immunity? (not read/listened the post above yet).
Vit-C is not ascorbic acid alone. How do we define vitamin-C. It is something which prevents and maybe cures Scurvy disease. Lemons, Onions etc does this job, so they contain vitamin C. What is common in all these foods: ascorbic acid. Ok, then can we say ascorbic acid is vitamin C: Not exactly, because ascorbic acid doesn't cure or prevent Scurvy.
A vitamin has many functions. For example vitamin D has hundreds of functions. Vitamin C is needed when creating collagen proteins. Vitamin C is a water soluble antioxidant.
Red onions contain quercetin, another antioxidant. quercetin is good against corona. Maybe all vit C containing foods may have anti-corona effect not because of ascorbic acid, but something which works together with ascorbic acid..
Ok, now in fighting against corona, is ascorbic acid effective, without any supplementary molecules which would make it real vitamin C?: YES. How: ascorbic acid acts as PRO-OXIDANT to kill bad microbes such as corona. This is another face of ascorbic acid. I mean, prooxidants are not always bad. Antioxidants are praised for elimination free radicals, but ascorbic acid can also act like a freeradical when attacking a virus.
This aspect of ascorbic acid is very similar to oxygen.
So both vit-C and ascorbic acid are good for fighting against viruses. Vit-C is better, but we can't take too much vit-C naturally. Instead we can take high doses of ascorbic acid intravenously. And it is being used in this way. But it may not be enough, otherwise all patients could be saved.
Vit-C and ascorbic acid are harmless in high doses (ok, even water can be harmful in very high dose).
What I would be worried about ascorbic acid: It is made from sugar, sugar is made from gmo corn, gmo corn contains high dose of herbicides, so indirectly ascorbic acid can contain pesticide/herbicide residues.
A point of vital importance:
Most animals produce vitamin c naturally.
Human beings do not.
Humans must seek vitamin c from external sources.
Dr. Suzanne Humphries on The Dangers of Vaccines
“The process of vaccination consists in injecting into the skin the liquid that is obtained by applying the discharge from the body of a small-pox patient to the udder of a cow. The original theory was that a single vaccination would suffice to keep a man [Pg 106] immune from this disease for life; but, when it was found that even vaccinated persons were attacked by the disease, a new theory came into being that the vaccination should be renewed after a certain period, and to-day it has become the rule for all persons—whether already vaccinated or not—to get themselves vaccinated whenever small-pox rages as an epidemic in any locality, so that it is no uncommon thing to come across people who have been vaccinated five or six times, or even more.
Vaccination is a barbarous practice, and it is one of the most fatal of all the delusions current in our time, not to be found even among the so-called savage races of the world. Its supporters are not content with its adoption by those who have no objection to it, but seek to impose it with the aid of penal laws and rigorous punishments on all people alike. The practice of vaccination is not very old, dating as it does only from 1798 A.D. But, during this comparatively short period that has elapsed, millions have fallen a prey to the delusion that those who get themselves vaccinated are safe from the attack of small-pox. No one can say that small-pox will necessarily attack those who have not been vaccinated; for many cases have been observed of unvaccinated people being free from its attack. From the fact that some people who are not vaccinated do get the [Pg 107] disease, we cannot, of course, conclude that they would have been immune if only they had got themselves vaccinated.
Moreover, vaccination is a very dirty process, for the serum which is introduced into the human body includes not only that of the cow, but also of the actual small-pox patient. An average man would even vomit at the mere sight of this stuff. If the hand happens to touch it, it is always washed with soap. The mere suggestion of tasting it fills us with indignation and disgust. But how few of those who get themselves vaccinated realise that they are in effect eating this filthy stuff! Most people know that, in several diseases, medicines and liquid food are injected into the blood, and that they are assimilated into the system more rapidly than if they were taken through the mouth. The only difference, in fact, between injection and the ordinary process of eating through the mouth is that the assimilation in the former case is instantaneous, while that in the latter is slow. And yet we do not shrink from getting ourselves vaccinated! As has been well said, cowards die a living death, and our craze for vaccination is solely due to the fear of death or disfigurement by small-pox.
I cannot also help feeling that vaccination is a violation of the dictates of religion and morality. [Pg 108] The drinking of the blood of even dead animals is looked upon with horror even by habitual meat-eaters. Yet, what is vaccination but the taking in of the poisoned blood of an innocent living animal? Better far were it for God-fearing men that they should a thousand times become the victims of small-pox and even die a terrible death than that they should be guilty of such an act of sacrilege.
Several of the most thoughtful men in England have laboriously investigated the manifold evils of vaccination, and an Anti-Vaccination Society has also been formed there. The members of this society have declared open war against vaccination, and many have even gone to gaol for this cause. Their objections to vaccination are briefly as follows:
(1) The preparation of the vaccine from the udder of cows or calves entails untold suffering on thousands of innocent creatures, and this cannot possibly be justified by any gains resulting from vaccination.
(2) Vaccination, instead of doing good, works considerable mischief by giving rise to many new diseases. Even its advocates cannot deny that, after its introduction, many new diseases have come into being.
(3) The vaccine that is prepared from the blood of a small-pox patient is likely to contain and [Pg 109] transmit the germs of all the several diseases that he may be suffering from.
(4) There is no guarantee that small-pox will not attack the vaccinated. Dr. Jenner, the inventor of vaccination, originally supposed that perfect immunity could be secured by a single injection on a single arm; but when it was found to fail, it was asserted that vaccination on both the arms would serve the purpose; and when even this proved ineffectual, it came to be held that both the arms should be vaccinated at more than one place, and that it should also be renewed once in seven years. Finally, the period of immunity has further been reduced to three years! All this clearly shows that doctors themselves have no definite views on the matter. The truth is, as we have already said, that there is no saying that small-pox will not attack the vaccinated, or that all cases of immunity must needs be due to vaccination.
(5) The vaccine is a filthy substance, and it is foolish to expect that one kind of filth can be removed by another.
By these and similar arguments, this society has already produced a large volume of public opinion against vaccination. In a certain town, for instance, a large proportion of the people refuse to be vaccinated, and yet statistics prove that they are singularly free from disease. The fact of the [Pg 110] matter is that it is only the self-interest of doctors that stands in the way of the abolition of this inhuman practice, for the fear of losing the large incomes that they at present derive from this source blinds them to the countless evils which it brings. There are, however, a few doctors who recognise these evils, and who are determined opponents of vaccination.
Those who are conscientious objectors to vaccination should, of course, have the courage to face all penalties or persecutions to which they may be subjected by law, and stand alone, if need be, against the whole world, in defence of their conviction.”
- Mahatma Gandhi
Stats in my county of the USA:
2896 "positive" cases, 29 deaths
even with highly questionable labeling of some of the 29*
29 deaths out of 446,499 people
Highlights from the:
Event 201: A Global Pandemic Exercise:
A Simulation of a Coronavirus Outbreak
October 18, 2019 | New York City
Dr Buttar says Trump knows the truth about CV19
(and more basic info about suppressing immunity)
Fauci the Flip Flopping Criminal and "Leading Expert."
How Social Distancing Rules Are Created
Zombie Economy Only About ½ of America is Working
President of Burundi, Pierre Nkurunziza, 55, dies of heart attack shortly after criticizing WHO and calling CV19 out for the scam that it is + A reminder that the CDC says CV19 doesn't harm children + A reminder that social distancing was studied by the CIA as a perfect way to crush the spirit of a human. (Cruel and inhumane treatment)
Joe Imbriano warned us in 2018-60GHz blocks Oxygen uptake=fake virus=kill grid= forced vaccinations.
July 1, 2020:
The Markets Are A Mind Twisting PSYOP. Mannarino
Understanding the Political Scenario of INDIA,CANADA,JAPAN,CHINA,USA, FRANCE etc
RTPCR Test for Covid19 was never supposed to be used according to the Nobel Prize Winner who created the test & more
Gruesome Newsom Orders Wineries Closed!
Makes sure his winery stays open.
Dr. Dan Erickson and Dr. Artin Massihi on Covid-19
World Economic Forum - Strategic Intelligence - COVID 19
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