various CASINO.ONLINE gTLD sold for $201,250 on 2017-03-22 at Sedo

[RamBabuSEO]

Hi Guys,

I just got to know that CASINO.ONLINE gTLD domain sold for $201,250 on 2017-03-22 at Sedo
sales link: https://namebio.com/casino.online

Please share your views on gTLD industries.

I think gTLD truly making its ground slowly slowly towards nice growth.

 

[Sinh]

Radix- the owner of .ONLINE sold this domain.

 

[garptrader]

typical registry sale used to hype the extension and generate a bunch of newbie registrations which will get renewed a couple times and then drop when no buyer appears.

Given what we have seen from some announced registry sales, watch this one carefully over the next few years. Will they really brand their business on a new TLD?

 

[Brands.International]

typical registry sale used to hype the extension and generate a bunch of newbie registrations which will get renewed a couple times and then drop when no buyer appears.

Given what we have seen from some announced registry sales, watch this one carefully over the next few years. Will they really brand their business on a new TLD?

I totally disagree with this. For many .com investors here, all sales in new gTLDs are 'suspicious', 'used to create hype', manipulated, etc

If there are no sales reported, you say new gTLDs are about to die. If there are reported sales, you can not believe this can actually happen, so it has to be false, manipulated, or at least designed to promote hype.

For .com investors with average portfolios new gTLDs are biggest pain ever. But I guess you should finally get use to it, they are here, and not going anywhere

 

[urlurl]

the renewal fees for most good .online are $5k - $10k per year - no thanks

 

[Lox]

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registry sale used to hype the extension

The registry just using the DPML (domain protected marks list) and protecting for example the word Rain from cybersquatting.
Sony has registered a new trademark "Rain", the same rule goes for the Casino (multiple TMs).
First come, first serve, but you can't rent it unless your TM contains - Casino (or you can if you operate outside of the meaning).

The renewal (rental) price for the word Rain is $3000.
The renewal (rental) price for the word Mom is $6000 (multiple TMs)
etc

ICANN made it clear - 2018 - cybersquatting and pirating going out of business.

All this makes dn aftermarket business under the pressure.

Kind regards

 

[Brands.International]

the renewal fees for most good .online are $5k - $10k per year - no thanks

Well that is not true. Reality is that there are many great .online names in hands of domainers, all with standard renewals. Of course, these people are early adopters, they invested just after .online went live, instead of reading too much bs posts here bashing new gTLD names. At the moment yes, almost all good names with standard renewals are already taken, and what you see left are good names, but with high renewals.

We can call it also 'too late to the party'

 

[urlurl]

so if i picked up shop.online at the beginning at $4.99/year they wont jack my renewal fee to $10,000 - are you saying they are all grandfathered?

 

[Lox]

they wont jack my renewal fee

The difference is in "promotional offer", "regular offer" and "premium offer".

$4.99 was promotional offer, after 1 year you'll have to follow "regular offer".

Every industry is different but there is no guarantee that the price will stay the same for more than 7 years.

.com was back then $100, now you can get it for $8+ . Generally, a low supply and a high demand increases price. In case of gTLDs and ccTLDs; high supply , low demand.

So, or .com will go up and give a space for gTLDs , or .com go for $1 and destroy any of gTLDs.

Since ICANN is now independent organization, we can expect more "floating" market rules.

 

[urlurl]

the best thing with any registry is consistency - anything else spooks the market

 

[Brands.International]

so if i picked up shop.online at the beginning at $4.99/year they wont jack my renewal fee to $10,000 - are you saying they are all grandfathered?

Definitely yes. I guess there was too much recent anti new gTLD hype related to price increases of STANDARD renewals in some extensions which belong to one particular registrar, and hence your question.

In new gTLDs, registries can change prices for STANDARD renewals, as per well defined process (6 months prior notices, etc), but they do it for ALL names with standard renewals. There is no process afaik which allows them to change PREMIUM renewals while name is registered, PREMIUM renewal is special pricing for a particular name -once defined and user register for that price, no process is defined to change that. Please note that within 1 extension you can have various premium prices, each name can be priced differently.

They also can not make premium from name with standard renewal while it is registered, so in this sense it is grandfathered.

New gTLD haters mix everything together and confuse people.

 

[RamBabuSEO]

Radix & Sedo Confirm Record-Breaking All Cash Sale of Casino.online for Over $200,000
Here is a update from : http://www.dnjournal.com/archive/lowdown/2017/dailyposts/20170323.htm

 

[Wass]

Great new for all gTLD investors

I am surprised this thread is not yet hijacked by new gTLD haters..what happened?? LOL

New gTLD haters must think the defense strategy... They need time to find a strategy: it is not easy when the news is so bad and stressful for them.
But do not worry, they come sooner or later. They do not give up now after they got tired for years...

 

[betthelot]

Not to disappoint you
Casino online is not natural speech online casino is much better
Casinoonline.com is going to love the free traffic.
Flowers.mobi anyone. Just because one person pays $200k for one name doesn't mean it's a resounding success. Seeing them developed by the millions and advertised and promoted to the masses does.

 

[RamBabuSEO]

New gTLD haters must think the defense strategy... They need time to find a strategy: it is not easy when the news is so bad and stressful for them.
But do not worry, they come sooner or later. They do not give up now after they got tired for years...

it's gTLD tough time now is to go long way to make the same competitive and demanding ground what Com has over the decades.

I don't hate anyone, whether gTLD vs Com both have its own value and demand in the market. Only major differences we have been experiencing is the time associated with each of these TLD or gTLD extension, and that what make them stand with their demand. gTLD is NEW in market is the case facing challenges , and .Com has nice long life since internet industry started and made it booming market.

But if i suppose to have both gTLD & Com domains today to buy, then i must go with gTLD where it makes quite nice sensible , short, both side generic have full meaning (Com has meaningless), brandable etc

 

[Rainmaker-NL]

typical registry sale used to hype the extension and generate a bunch of newbie registrations which will get renewed a couple times and then drop when no buyer appears.

Given what we have seen from some announced registry sales, watch this one carefully over the next few years. Will they really brand their business on a new TLD?

I watched game.com carefully over the last few years. It was sold for millions a few times and never developed. Very fishy. Probably done to make newbies think .com is still alive and has some value.

 

[garptrader]

Correct it is not just new Gs where you see suspect sales.
I have been around the industry a few years so I am suspect of the BS reporting. Domain sales above $1500 are not nearly as common as sales reports lead you to believe is possible. High reported sales spur more registrations, higher renewal rates (even without buyers) and higher bids in auctions.

 

[Fuadiansyah]

It's a registry sales, not domain investor's.
So, no thanks...

 

[Rainmaker-NL]

Correct it is not just new Gs where you see suspect sales.
I have been around the industry a few years so I am suspect of the BS reporting. Domain sales above $1500 are not nearly as common as sales reports lead you to believe is possible. High reported sales spur more registrations, higher renewal rates (even without buyers) and higher bids in auctions.

Fair enough, but without any further proof I think one should not state that its a fake sale.
in my example of game.com: never developed, high selling price. But its owned by someone in China. Saying that it was a fake sale, would imply that the Chinese owner is in on it. Sounds a lot like a conspiracy theory if you dont have solid proof to back it........

 

[Casey L]

Desperate nTLD speculators using a registry sale as reason why their nTLDs are increasing in value is too funny.

Remember how valuable your two word .vips were going to become after those 4.cn auctions?

 

[shayan]

It's a registry sales, not domain investor's.
So, no thanks...

A sale is a sale. What's wrong with that? Especially since it happened on Sedo -- that's nice commission for Sedo

 

[garptrader]

Yes, there are sales to investors who have no intent to develop the name into a business. Investors generally do not pay five or six figures for an alternative TLD domain or a .COM with insignificant search volume. Even end users at times are reluctant to pay more than low $XXX for a domain.

 

[Kate]

If there are no sales reported, you say new gTLDs are about to die. If there are reported sales, you can not believe this can actually happen, so it has to be false, manipulated, or at least designed to promote hype.

The point is: in either case domainers do not benefit. Because the larger sales are always made by the registries, few exceptions. It is like that for a reason: the registries have hoarded the names that would make sense in the TLD, or have a better chance of selling than 'average' domains.
The window of opportunity for outsiders is narrow and uncertain.
Domainers are playing in a game that is rigged and designed to keep them out of the equation.

 

[dordomai]

Desperate nTLD speculators using a registry sale as reason why their nTLDs are increasing in value is too funny.

Remember how valuable your two word .vips were going to become after those 4.cn auctions?

is .vip still a thing or is it in heaven with .mobi? (not following this one)

we have a total of 2 sales reported.

commerce.vip 101 USD 2017-01-13 4.CN
sultan.vip 250 USD 2016-10-04 Flippa

a year ago we were told China is going crazy for it and rich Chinese will pay you a fortune just to get their random NNNN.vip

is the market still hot or did the registry take the money and run?

 

[dumindu89]

Great new for all gTLD investors

I am surprised this thread is not yet hijacked by new gTLD haters..what happened?? LOL

No. They hijacked the thread.
They are telling that the sale was not from a domain investor and it was from the registry. Probably they may think registries are just spending on TLDs for not for profit purposes.

However they forgot the major point that it was a nTLD sale.

 

[Wass]

I saw the defensive strategy of new gTLD haters. They repeat two points everywhere: the fact that it is a sale made by the registrar and .mobi
New gTLD Haters, it's a failed defensive strategy... LOL. You can do better. I thought you were smarter... Haters, think again... You'll see that you can find a better strategy... Courage