Labeled as available in Available Domain Names started by BrandCougar, Aug 28, 2018.
By pure accident I refreshed this post this morning, I love it man! I took it! Thanks!
I appreciate you trying to help people, but some of the suggestions really baffle me. Yes, GD's semi-blind algorithm suggests there might be a value, but you then deciding to post them surprises me.
Even more surprising, quite a few of those get registered. I assume, many take the postings as "endorsement' from you that they have a resale potential.
I frankly struggle to see a commercial project on "Pure+Accident" or "Rerun+Data" or "Names+Quest" or "Bonds+Catalog"...
Thanks for your candor.
I am posting the items (appraisals) to illustrate what is available and the valuations provided by the GD GoValue tool, but more importantly (at least for me) I find that by using the GoValue tool to dig down 2-3 layers deep into their comps provides context to their appraisals. And for me, this has forced me to look at certain keyword based names in a different context.
A domain's value sort of reminds me of a used furniture store. I might walk through the store and shrug my shoulders at what is available, yet someone else might find that unique item they've been looking for.
As for the "commercial" value of the domains mentioned, here are some thoughts that come to mind.
"Pure+Accident" - potentially a blog site about unusual accidents, sort of like "The Farmers Insurance" commercials being advertised these days and on the site provide insurance based ads. A long-tail keyword site for stuff like "deer scratched my car" or "bear broke into my house" (usual, weird and rare claim situations that get your attention - once there you might click on an auto insurance ad)
"Rerun+Data"- agree - I can't think of an immediate marketing idea - the only thing that comes to mind a conspiracy site or data analyst playground. Again - agree it's weaker than other naming options.
"Names+Quest" - a "name my brand" type site that someone could use as a lead generator site for their domain inventory. The content on the site could be about different industry sectors and industry specific startup information for finding a name.
"Bonds+Catalog" - a financial site listing (and clarifying) the various types of investment bonds that are available, plus could include lead gen advertising either for investments or bail bonds options. Commercial? If it can drive a lead (as a "catalog") - then it's commercial.
And back to the used furniture store example - I might say... "hey that's a cool looking lamp" and my wife would say "grow up - the 70's are in the past"... and a NY home decorator might puke at the gaudy item.
Meanwhile that lamp now sits in my office... shedding light on my favorite Elvis paintng.
Not disagreeing with you, just indicating we all have different taste.
Also wanted to mention - the process of providing the domains listed on this thread has provided an opportunity for several terrific PM discussions (off-thread).
Thanks again for your post - but I see the GoValue tool in a different light than simply using the estimate numbers provided as gospel.
ps: Recons does have a good point. I am posting these items as observations, not fervent recommendations.
Thank you. Love your responses. Always detailed, courteous, polite.
I used to reg names that would be great for a blog. Except, bloggers normally don't pay premium price and will either find their own witty option or just go "long tail".
Regarding Names+Quest, correct version would be Name+Quest. The same with Bonds+Catalog (should be Bond Catalog and even then its usage is a stretch. There are always better/similar options available for hand reg), unless it is the Catalog of adventures of James Bond :o).
You have a great reputation for your name selections and your success with brandables and I got an impression that quite a few take this as recommendations literally.
Regarding GD valuations, their tool is probably top 2 in the world for their accuracy, but, thanks God, they are not perfect and I still get good bargains valued at $1000-$1500 range, because, it seems, many will blindly sweep anything above $2000 and a quite a few above $1500 and will go into crazy bidding wars really overpaying for names.
The tool has already made GD millions from the investors, I think.
Likewise - I enjoy your post and engaging dialogue. Thanks.
I find too many threads engaging in pissing matches, instead of (respectfully) sharing unique points of view.
I always chuckle over Mike Dukakis' quote - "if two people always agree - only one person is thinking"
Your point about the GD valuations (I guess is now being termed their "GoValue" tool on the site) has been a terrific "price lifting" utility tactically as well as strategically. I too have seen dozens of names being valued above $2,000 that are mere text mash-ups blended with synonyms that don't quite make sense. And on the other side, have also found a few appraised between $1,200 - $1,400 that I thought were worth tossing $10 at a hand reg to see where they fly.
One other item I didn't mention earlier, I also like to keep names in the 12L and under cluster when dealing with 2W domains and 8L and under when dealing with Creative names. I see some people buying names that won't even fit on the side of a blimp. They would need to drag a 1000 foot banner behind the blimp to get it all in.
Thanks again for responding and highlighting some of the risk involved in the using the GoValue (or any) automated tool.
I think Recons.com is also kind of missing the point, it isn't about the accuracy of the GD value but the experiment, looking at the data and how it can be used you are really digging deeper, you have done a great job of documenting and finding utility in the estimator and I thank you!
Also coming from 20 years in IT... Rerun+Data would have been perfect for a data forensics, data monitoring, and analysis tool or even a data theft/loss prevention offering... and Pure+Accident is a legal term, it means not at fault, unavoidable and the person cannot legally be held responsible, picked it up for a lawyer friend who uses the term in jest all the time.
@ImTechMan / @Recons.Com -
Thanks for you post.
I think there are two topics being discussed which is consistent with the theme of this thread.
1) Recons fair mention that I am using the tool to provide data but am not specifically "endorsing" names in a Buy/Hold/Sell position statement, and
2) ImTechMan's point which is the accuracy of the GD estimate is a subset of a bigger topic that I am trying to share with the audience - the bigger topic being that the GoValue tool provides an opportunity to dig deeper into KW usage and has (at least for me specifically) provided a great opportunity to find alternative avenues for KW usage. Additionally by going 2-3 levels deep into the comps provides context to the comp roll-up and insight to sales clustering. The dimension of time (no date) is missing from the comps (comparable domains), so developing a trending model is difficult, but there is tremendous value in studying the roll-up and underlying model being used.
Both points are worth mentioning and I appreciate the dialogue provided by both. Thank you!
I wasn't aware that "Pure+Accident" had a direct industry context. Appreciated the insight.
I'm a database guy (data geek) by trade so the term "Rerun+Data" I've used in audit, financial reporting, and data analytics/validation modeling, however, I admit it's not one of the better items I've posted on the thread. It's a term I've used as an on-site consultant, so I tossed it on the thread thinking someone might like it and see value in it.
To the both of you, thank you for taking the time to post.
Here's one (1) for today.
Available to hand reg...
CoffeeBan.com $1435 (GD Appraisal)
* The thought of a Coffee Ban makes me cringe as I sip my morning sludge.
* I keep thinking of Morgan & Jack in "The Bucket List" - a friendship developed.
Commercial Use (A Couple Ideas):
- A website that discusses unique coffees that are banned in certain market places, with (of course) Amazon or AdSense ads for Krupp products.
- A website that discusses import limitations & requirements, with (you guessed it) lead gen or advertising for customs/tariff services or legal services for internal trade barriors.
*** After responding to Recons earlier post, I realized it might be fun to discuss some of the potential Commercial Uses for a few of these domains. Keeping in mind - I have a w-i-d-e imagination (to the point of "tangent paralysis") but it's a fun challenge to brainstorm & package concepts.
CoffeeBan.com $1435 (GD Appraisal)
Here is an example of how digging 2-3 levels deep with the GoValue tool can broaden your view and introduce you to new markets and new KW patterns.
LEVEL - 1
When viewing the GD Appraisal for CoffeeBan.com (1st Level) I see the following being used as comparable items.
- PastaBan.com Sold for $2,895
- CoffeeStop.com Sold for $1,250
LEVEL - 2
While digging to the next level (Level -2) by running the GoValue tool on PastaBan.com and also on CoffeeStop.com , I see the following being used as comparable items.
PastaStop.com Sold for $988 (while in the PastaBan.com estimate)
VaporStop.com Sold for $2,295 (while in the CoffeeStop.com estimate)
CoffeePass.com Sold for $5,000 (while in the CoffeeStop.com estimate)
LEVEL - 3
While digging to the next level (Level -3) by running the GoValue tool on CoffeePass.com , I see the following being used as comparable items.
CoffeeScene.com Sold for $2,488 (while in the CoffeePass.com.com estimate)
CoffeeConnect.com Sold for $3,188 (while in the CoffeePass.com.com estimate)
I then blend Pasta with Connect and find that PastaConnect.com is available with a GoValue estimate of $1,098.
Starting with the 1st level of comparable names (Level-1) I was initially confused by why the words Pasta and Stop were showing up.
I mean - why is coffee being "stopped"?
Duh!! "Stop" was referring to location, not an ending.
Then following the tentacles of Ban to Stop, Stop to Pass, and Pass to Connect.
I started at Level-1 with PastaBan and at Level-3 was on the valuation for CoffeeConnect
From there, I see BeerConnect, CookingConnect, GardenConnect, and PastaPresto.
There seems to be a draw to words that suggest "a meeting" or "a joining of product enthusiast". The opposite (to ban) has led me to joining/sharing action.
In the end, PastaConnect.com may (or may not) be a good choice for a domain investor. BUT... similar to niche breweries that are popping up everywhere, there are now niche pasta shops popping up locally with specialty (niche) products. And these aren't restaurants, they are specialty product providers..
PastaConnect.com - a pasta enthusiast could identify 100's of small (local) pasta shops and interview several of the owners to find out what unique products they offer, specialty plates that could be cooked, tools (utensils) need to create these specialty plates, and (of course) a few sprinkled in Amazon links with some long-tail keywords to build a side income for their hobby (passion).
PastaConnect.com - this could also be local (retail) pasta shop that wants to broaden from Tony's Tortellini to a wider product set sharing their unique (niche) products with a growing population that has never tasted a TV dinner.
* This specific domain is not the point of this post, it is the process of expanding your mind to find new niches to explore and consider is the crux of this post. (and using the GoValue tool as a utensil to help you expand your product sourcing view by digging deeper into the comparable tentacles is the point)
You are missing the point. It is not about the combo being a thing. It is about someone willing to name their company that way and pay premium bucks to do so.
Your lawyer friend might be OK to accept pure accident as gift, but I doubt he would have paid xxxx for it.
And of course rerun data is a thing. But doubt someone would go for Rerundata, llc. It would make them sound mechanical, boring, unimaginative.
But that is the point... the domains were being listed as a point of reference for the exercise, not as a recommendation to purchase as an elite business name or a $xxxx instant resale. And although I probably wouldn't name a company (outside of a data forensics consultancy) RerunData, I most certainly would use that name on an application or service offering.
In a world of businesses like General Dynamics, Network Solutions, The Home Network, Central Broadcasting Systems etc. unimaginative but clearly defined isn't always a bad thing... or the other end of the spectrum you have companies that just go with horrible things like "KnowB4" because they can't get the name they want and make millions the first year...
Just looking at the past few weeks of $xxxx sales you can see how many names defy any logic whatsoever... people want what they want and for people like lawyers and tech companies with deep pockets $xxxx really isn't that much...
Separate names with a comma.