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Bidding on your own names at NameJet...?

Located in Domain Marketplace Reviews, started by webquest, Jul 18, 2017

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  1. Domain Shane

    Domain Shane Top Member DSAD.com Staff PRO VIP ICA Member ★★★★★★★★★★

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    Ha. Let us know if you find anything. Pretty sure Michael Sumner has a little better crunching power. I'm still crunching VYDY. You said you sold it on here for $7200 and now its on brand bucket for $9500 and still under your name. Sounds very very fishy to me :)
     
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  2. Hemanttilotia

    Hemanttilotia Established Member

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    I sold it and please check it's not under my name.
    I thought you were the good guy :)
     
  3. Domain Shane

    Domain Shane Top Member DSAD.com Staff PRO VIP ICA Member ★★★★★★★★★★

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    I don't want to get off topic. I put a lot of time into DomainSherpa and when you say I talk BS I like to look who said it. I simply did a who is check and it has your name and the nameservers as Brandbucket. If it is not true then you can see why all the confusion over who owns what name and how hard it is to make accusations when some info is not right.

    But don't confuse that with me still being pissed because I feel I am being cheated by HKDN and Oliver
     
  4. Domain Shane

    Domain Shane Top Member DSAD.com Staff PRO VIP ICA Member ★★★★★★★★★★

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    Why didn't I think of that. I let Oliver write a few posts because he bought and sold more than anyone in the world and its always a good thing to hear from the world's leader. Of course this was before I knew about all this. But that name is certainly worth checking in to. Man my site has been pretty good for research lately. Maybe we'll keep it going :)
     
  5. Hemanttilotia

    Hemanttilotia Established Member

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    I was referring to Andrew and his novel ideas for newbies on DomainSherpa.
    That's BS.
    Check the email on whois, that's not mine.
    My brandbucket portfolio is under profile htilotia, it's not there too.
    Remember I wrote a fan email to you, so you definitely wasn't referred to.
     
  6. Want2learn

    Want2learn Top Contributor VIP

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    Ever think they could come over here and bid up auction over here?
     
  7. Domain Shane

    Domain Shane Top Member DSAD.com Staff PRO VIP ICA Member ★★★★★★★★★★

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    My apologies. Drew is an amazing person. One of the hardest working people I know. He genuinely cares about all this and wants a positive reputation. But with this big personality comes a lot of crazy thoughts. Thoughts on the edge and statements that many won't agree with. It comes with that mentality. That same emotion is why he is so successful. But a thief or a cheat he is not based on our business dealing and private conversations. Only proof will change my opinion. Not rhetoric.
     
  8. Wannabean

    Wannabean Top Contributor VIP

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    I'm concerned that some members are working backwards to prove conclusions here.

    The bigger the leap the bigger the fall if you miss....
     
  9. Hemanttilotia

    Hemanttilotia Established Member

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    I write high speed trading algorithms for automated bidding on stock market and currency futures for a living.
    I may not be the best but I can sure crunch some numbers.
     
  10. jaybuk

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  11. Hemanttilotia

    Hemanttilotia Established Member

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    I too want him to come clean. We need new leaders.
     
  12. Want2learn

    Want2learn Top Contributor VIP

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    Take the time and read through it.
     
  13. StevenG

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    Hey, I just wanted to give an update on my end. I had a conversation with Andrew Rosener and we talked about the situation and why it's so convoluted and frustrating for all parties involved. I made accusations that I shouldn't have, and I would like to publicly retract them and apologize for any harm they have done to Andrew Rosener, Media Options and their employees.

    I said things that I shouldn't have, I'm truly sorry for that, and I hope that Andrew can forgive me. We all got heated into this discussion and have tried to find connections where there weren't any. Even if some people have done something wrong, it's not okay to lump others together with guilt by association. So what I said was misguided, I didn't have the answers. I hope that this thread can stay on task in being able to fix the issues at hand, let's stay clear of unfounded personal accusations.

    Ultimately I hope that we are able to make amends as a community and sort out these issues.
     
  14. ShillGate

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    The mystery behind who is HKDN is Intriguing!! I created a poll for this on Shillgate _dot_com. :)


     
  15. Want2learn

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    I have reached out to NJ asking how they will rectify the situation? It is very disturbing needless to say. It's funny bc I loathe GD, but have spent some money there instead of at NJ the past 36ish hours.
     
  16. Want2learn

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    Don't apologize for telling the truth and exposing deceit. And if you were wrong I commend you for owning up to it. Was your entire accusation wrong or just parts of it? Which parts?
     
  17. StevenG

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    I did say things that I shouldn't have. That's why I'm coming back here to issue an apology. The entire situation is very confusing, we are working to untangle the issues at hand. I feel like I've added some to the confusion by making the accusations that I have, so I wanted to make amends. It was wrong of me to lump Andrew in with anyone. Guilt by association is never okay, so it was not okay for me to say he was up to no good.

    Again, I apologize for the confusion I've caused.
     
  18. Haris

    Haris Best Domainer Of The End-Times VIP

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    tl;dr

    lol. I would appreciate if someone can update me regarding who's going to prison and stuff.

    Thanks and regards.
     
  19. Wannabean

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    What situation? Do you know you've been wronged? If so how?

    There's an underlying consensus here that Namejet are 'in on' whatever is supposed to have happened here (if anything? not sure yet.....) but I for one would be amazed if that were the case. It's a really small and hard working team over there. They are not the illuminati...
     
  20. BaileyUK

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    well done namequest for starting this awareness thread. I rarely post on domain boards these days (still own a couple of hundred domains) the thread has certainly gone Global in links. I doubt many old-hands are really surprised by the revelations. That said I'm pleased to see the "Chancers" pulled-up. well done guys
     
  21. Grilled

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    can you confirm two or more handles?

    The s in handle/s is misleading as I believe its been publicly stated he only uses one handle.
     
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  22. Arca

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    Please clarify the nature of the auctions you got refunded for and which of Oliver's bid handle(s) bid you up in these auctions.

    How did they determine the amount of money they refunded you for due to unnatural bidding in these auctions?
     
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  23. tonyk2000

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    Also was it a partial refund OR a full refund with (or without?) required return of domains in question...
     
  24. Hemanttilotia

    Hemanttilotia Established Member

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    Yes, I can confirm some things now.
    I got 3 handles, one via pm and two others on my email, all suggesting that these are possible handles of MediaOptions.
    I ran that into my algorithm and I can confirm that the one I got via pm, that's the public one of MediaOptions is the only legitimate handle used by the company.
    I ran the algorithm to MediaOptions past auctions and couldn't detect any shill bidding or abnormalities.
    So Andrew just jumped the gun with a vague idea and seems like he has nothing to do with this activity.
    Though I never accused him, I apologize for any inconvenience caused.
    Pro tip: Never get into another one's fight :)
     
  25. Ategy

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    All these statements and disparaging remarks you've made so far and you didn't even have any evidence to back it up or even his email handles?

    You simply can't go around making ignorant accusations and insinuations like you have without anything but your feeling to back it up.

    If you listen to most @DomainSherpa shows in their entirety you'll find they they regularly state that what they say is their opinion. I'll go one step further and say they they don't even really need to do that .. because they ARE ENTITLED to their opinions .. whether right or wrong or more lilely .. somewhere in between. They regularly "recommend" things. They often state how they don't know things for sure .. and even laugh at themselves when they are wrong. There is absolutely ZERO basis in merit stating they anybody there actively is out to deceive anyone. If you have proof .. bring it up .. if you suspect something then tread very lightly and investigate without making false accusations that you cannot backup .. if you end up finding proof then fine .. make your accusations ... but making false accusation and insinuations is akin and equal or worse in severity to what you're accusing them of.

    @Domain Shane .. you owe absolutely ZERO explanations/justifications to anyone. You reiterate so often that what you say is OPINION that can and even sometimes WILL be wrong that it's almost silly. How anybody could ever blame you for being misleading is beyond insane.

    @MediaOptions often goes off on tangent and explores random thoughts based on in the moment ideas that developed during the discussions. He tends to ramble on and CAN sound convincing because he often follows up his ideas with examples and facts (something ironically lacking here from those speaking against him and @Michael Cyger). But let's be very clear that most of the time, it's very clearly OPINION.

    The last time something like this happened Cyger DID take action. Action that hurt his own content as he removed a huge portion of past shows .. but he took action SPECIFICALLY to protect new domainers despite the fact he actually got grief for it and took an obvious SEO hit from losing so much content.

    I'm not even stating that anybody/everybody mentioned in this entire thread is innocent .. but it is 100% wrong to make accusations without at least some evidence or proof .. it is also 100% wrong to say it is wrong for people to share their opinions.

    All the Sharpas take personal time to share their opinion ... and because of it and other sources of information, I'm now at the point where I actually sometimes even disagree with their opinions from time to time. But even then I grow and learn something based on them discussing something I don't agree with.


    It's like earlier on in this thread when Andrew (@MediaOptions) shared his OPINION on how he thinks domain auctions could be changed for the better. The moment said that people rushed to accuse him of all sorts of things not even circumstantial. People conveniently overlooked the fact that he said he was thinking out loud, and even if he did think allowing self-bidding would help the industry, that he in no way thought that was an excuse for the current suspect bidding by the original accused in this thread. He stated the current rules are the current rules .. and should not be broken or circumvented until the rules are actually changed.

    What's worse is that the only obvious fact everyone can agree on is that auctions across the domain industry are a mess and changes, reforms and improvements are desperately needed. Open and frank debates throwing out and discussing all sort of crazy ideas is how we can find potential solutions/improvements.
     

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