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Beirut blast . Bomb/Terrorist attack or Accident ?

Labeled as debate in The Break Room, started by Dot.us, Aug 5, 2020

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Bomb or Accident?

  1. Bomb/Terrorist attack

    3 votes
    20.0%
  2. Accident

    12 votes
    80.0%
Total: 15 vote(s)
  1. Dot.us

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    My condolence for all who died yesterday
    R.i.P.
    i will start with my opinion : Bomb/Terrorist attack
    Share your opinion & be respectful we living hard times due to politicians & people die without a reason all around the globe . I think we the people of this planet don't learn to much from our mistakes
    Accident: Ammonium nitrate (0.20)

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O-d6cqhCJNE

    Bomb:






     
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  2. Dot.us

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  3. Dot.us

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    2013 USA again Texas
    Ammonium nitrate explode as a fire ball black smoke after ( on both USA explosions )
    Yesterday in Beirut was blast with a white smoke/shock wave
     
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  4. noneisnone

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    My personal opinion Mossad/Cia operation to blow up a hezbollah shipment of rockets/explosives
     
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  6. Dot.us

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    Likely an accident. It would be very hard for terrorists to pull off a bomb that size.

    For reference purposes -

    Timothy McVeigh used 4,000 pounds of ammonium nitrate to blow up the Alfred P. Murrah Federal Building in Oklahoma City in 1995

    This was supposedly 2,750 tons or 5.5 million pounds; 1,375x more than the OKC bombing.

    Brad
     
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  8. The Durfer

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    yes terrible, feel for those that went thru it. :(
     
  9. Dot.us

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    Notice in poll (until now) 9 think accident & 3 bomb
    This 9 people voted for accident because what say media or own think?
    As far until now at least one fact not fit for "ammonium nitrate" based on previous accidents - black smoke - texas 1947 & 2013 - come after (due to ) explosion - and was much worst than explosion itself .
    i don't see a black smoke & usual a kind of this smoke set on buildings, cars etc..so "clean" & quiet Beirut . (imo)
    i "like" those sparkle from beginning explosion - remind me a device for demolition building
    And come one 7 years need to be that amount to explode . in that heat / temperature region i think 2 - 3 years is enough
     
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  10. The Durfer

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    im not sure, but i read something later that said they had a tanker full of ammonium nitrate from russia that was beside a fireworks factory beside a granary. yipes. All kinds of elements together, they shouldve had these things separate just out of precaution also.
     
  11. Dot.us

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    What a party people are Lebanese they have fireworks ( tones ) - maybe are chinese? O_o
     
  12. Dot.us

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    "The warehouse building, owned by Ruihai Logistics, is recorded in a 2014 government document as being a hazardous chemical storage facility" - one year of storage and explode | Tianjin (let's say 2 years) was enough to explode - not 7 like was in Beirut

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    How explode ammonium nitrate​
     
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  13. bmugford

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    Occam's razor.

    Absent any additional information the official explanation seems plausible.

    The sheer amount of explosives it would take to recreate that explosion would be hundreds or thousands of trucks worth. That seems far less plausible for a terrorist attack to have someone sneak in that amount of explosives.

    Brad
     
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  14. samuk

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    I don’t see how something like that can blow up by itself. Really weird.
     
  15. Dot.us

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    Ammonium nitrate can explode no doubt but this was with little help
     
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    Any numbers of things could trigger it. Storing that much explosive material, in an area like that, is a disaster waiting to happen.

    Brad
     
  17. CraigD

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    That sounds like 'cherry picking'.

    Most likely and simplest explanation (Occam's Razor) is that there was a fire in a warehouse, and one thing leading to another, it eventually ignited the ammonium nitrate stored there.

    Many people are suffering, and pointing fingers or speculation at this point is unhelpful.
     
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    Happens pretty easily just need heat with all the fuel and that can be done with air and a few particles almost anything sets a fuel off their job was to not let it happen.
     

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