Backorders - The biggest chance of success?

[phantom4444]

Hi,

In your experience, what is the most successful method of being successful with backorders?

I have been using various different companies and still find it to be quite frustrating....

My latest experiences have been with pool and on most occasions the names seem to delete yet have not made it to any form of auction. There have been multiple names of late that I would have been willing to submit significant offers for yet haven't had the opportunity

I would appreciate any thoughts, recommendations or techniques on this subject from the wise and the wonderful

Ak

 

[gazzip]

to start with you need to find out which drop company is partnered is with the register.

ie: a network solution name goes to namejet.com

a Godaddy name goes to TDnam.com

...hundreds of others.

Many of these drop companies are partnered with many different registrars, the names get "passed" to the auction house rather than actually drop.

They only drop if nobody has placed a backorder, even then there are many private catches waiting to snag them.

There was a list of partner registrars but I think it is well out of date now.

Tricky business, especially if you don't have a big bank account to win if it goes to auction.

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[phantom4444]

to start with you need to find out which drop company is partnered is with the register.

ie: a network solution name goes to namejet.com

a Godaddy name goes to TDnam.com

...hundreds of others.

Many of these drop companies are partnered with many different registrars, the names get "passed" to the auction house rather than actually drop.

They only drop if nobody has placed a backorder, even then there are many private catches waiting to snag them.

There was a list of partner registrars but I think it is well out of date now.

Tricky business, especially if you don't have a big bank account to win if it goes to auction.

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Thanks for the prompt reply,

There's some very interesting points there and I had no idea that there were such partnerships in operation (although I had an inkling).
So by that rational are Pool.com an independant auction company or do they operate in conjunction with a registrar? Same for snapnames I guess?
I just find it a little frustrating sometimes when I have the funds available to purchase a killer name from auction yet I can't get added to the auction proccess....
I guess the way forward is to research which name is associated to which registrar then find it's affiliate for the auction.
Thank you so much for your help with this, rep added

ak

 

[DotWeekly]

This might help as well. http://dnqa.net/2008/07/28/how-do-i-get-a-domain-name-that-is-expiring/

I have a list of registrars that are partnered with auction houses near the bottom.

 

[gazzip]

snapnames has dozens of partners registrars, so does pool - not sure how many godaddy has.

I have to nip out but I'll try and find the "OLD LIST" later tonight just as an example, I have posted it here at namepros ....somewhere

Someone will hopefully post it for you in the meantime





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[phantom4444]

You are both stars

Thank's again!

ak

 

[YAYnames.com]

There have been multiple names of late that I would have been willing to submit significant offers for yet haven't had the opportunity
Ak

Another big reason expired names don't always come up for auction is that some registrars just decide to keep them. Tucows alone admits to keeping 6000 to 8000 names per month for their "portfolio."

Read this thread if you don't believe me:

http://www.namepros.com/domain-name-discussion/487472-expired-domain-skimming-by-registrars.html


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[Slick Domains]

NameJet - Network Solutions, eNom, BulkRegister, ClubDrop
Pool - NameScout, DotAsia
SnapNames - Register.com, Moniker.com, Answerable.com, MyDomain.com, Dotster.com, DotRegister.com
TDNAM - GoDaddy, WildWestDomains

You can also find some information here: http://whois-search.com/deleting/who.php

I found out the hard way that Pool basically goes out and registers the domains if they can, then sell them to you at ridiculous rates. I "backordered" with them, was awarded the domain after they secured it, then saw on whois that it was a fresh renewal. They had waited until it expired, registered it, and sold it to me for $60.00, and I lost the domain age (5+ years).

Anyway, it is probably more complicated than that, but I have to say that I'm not a big fan of Pool. I monitor the other three daily and the names usually go to Pool if noone wants them from those 3 (except Pool's partners like NameScout, etc.).

 

[Charley]

Some names I backordered on Snap were rejected, the message following was "Sorry, this name couldn't be backordered"

 

[phantom4444]

There's been some wonderful tips and pointers here guys and plenty for me to get my teeth into.

All the best

ak

Another big reason expired names don't always come up for auction is that some registrars just decide to keep them. Tucows alone admits to keeping 6000 to 8000 names per month for their "portfolio."

Read this thread if you don't believe me:

http://www.namepros.com/domain-name-discussion/487472-expired-domain-skimming-by-registrars.html


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I find this both disturbing and unsurprising. Should there not be an independent body set up for regulation?
Actions like this will surely mean the eventual end for many domainers and create the ultimate cyber squatter......the registrars themselves. Bad.

ak

 

[gazzip]

You can also find some information here: http://whois-search.com/deleting/who.php

Thanks, thats the list I was looking for :tu:

It does'nt look like it has been updated for ages.

one of the biggest/most important change is Network Solution names now go to NameJet for auction and NOT snapnames.


Good luck snagging them, the competition is fierce


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[AbdulBasit.com]

Snapnames and Enom are great in backordering the domains