question Are 4-Letter .com Names' prices CRASHING?

[Haroon Basha]

I am noticing the prices for 4 letter dot com names are going down since last fifteen days. Random nmes are disdained to sell for $100 each.

Still CVCV names are getting higher prices. But supplies are very limited.

I was looking for cheaper names at NamePros, Namejet, DropCatch, Godaddy Marketplaces/Auctions, nowhere they are available for $100.

What should be our strategy? Should we sell them at such lower prices or hold them till we get a fair price? Till recently we used to sell a random 4 letter name with J and Q for $150, but now it is $100.

Please share your valuable thoughts.

 

[Corey]

Why do you make it complicated?

 

[Corey]

@marijuanadomain @A1EX

Source = LLLL.com Price Charts - ShortNames

Quad Premium LLLL.com Minimum Price​

No J, K, Q, U, V, W, X, Y or Z

Chinese Premium LLLL.com Minimum Price​

No A, E, I, O, U or V (each point based on 14 days of reported sales)

Cheers
Corey

 

[Bname.com]

If you need money...you can sale it ..
If you don't need money...please keep it...

 

[alcy]

random 4l have been round 100usd for years now... pronouncable 4l have sold for 1000s for.years and will continue to... what is down done and over for good is them dumb chips 4l that at peak were few grand a pop for no reason... like tulips back in day

 

[dncafe]

People are mixing in pronounceable and brandable 4 letters, like HULU versus random letters like HTRW with no meaning or acronym

This is more about what the lowest floor price average is for the worst 4 letter .com is right now.

These domains are typically only sold to other domainers as they don't have an end user use.

But because of their scarcity (456K with many websites in use) they are bought and sold, similar to a rare baseball card, coin or stamp.

Buying them and thinking you can resell them for a profit in 2 years is a bit of a gamble as you would be spending ~$20 to renew over that period.

I was buying LLL.com's in the early 2000's when the floor price was around $200 and now the floor price is around $18,000 or so. Obviously there are less 3 letter combinations then 4 letter, but there is still big potential for growth in the coming years for 4 letters, which all depends on future trends in domain and URL redirection with emerging tech

 

[NameInbox]

HODL!​

 

[Corey]

just won an auction for a LLLL.com for $2XX.00 including renewal

WESTERN PREMIUM = Triple​

CHINESE PREMIUM = Triple​

LETTER PATTERN = CCCV​

Cheers
Corey

 

[namegulf]

People are mixing in pronounceable and brandable 4 letters, like HULU versus random letters like HTRW with no meaning or acronym

This is more about what the lowest floor price average is for the worst 4 letter .com is right now.

These domains are typically only sold to other domainers as they don't have an end user use.

But because of their scarcity (456K with many websites in use) they are bought and sold, similar to a rare baseball card, coin or stamp.

Buying them and thinking you can resell them for a profit in 2 years is a bit of a gamble as you would be spending ~$20 to renew over that period.

I was buying LLL.com's in the early 2000's when the floor price was around $200 and now the floor price is around $18,000 or so. Obviously there are less 3 letter combinations then 4 letter, but there is still big potential for growth in the coming years for 4 letters, which all depends on future trends in domain and URL redirection with emerging tech

Spot on!

 

[Inframan]

CVCV = An LLLL.com that follows a Consonant, Vowel, Consonant, Vowel Pattern.
VCVC = An LLLL.com that follows a Vowel, Consonant, Vowel, Consonant Pattern.
Triple Letter = 3 of the same letter in the same LLLL.com. An example of this is : LLLX.com.
Quad premium = 4 Premium Letters. Basically, 4 letters of which none consist of J,K,Q,U,V,W,X,Y,Z.
Triple premium = 3 Premium Letters.
Semi-Premium = When used in an LLLL.com context, generally used to denote an LLLL.com with 3 premium letters and one lesser quality letter (J,K,U,V,W,Y). Also used to denote a single letter which is of lesser quality (J,K,U,V,W,Y).
Double Premium = 2 Premium Letters.
Anti-Premium (also called Non-Premium) = 1 or less Premium Letters. Sometimes used to denote excessively bad combinations.

Cheers
Corey

Is this based on actual sales? {J, U ,W} shouldn't be on the list of lesser quality letters.
Here is the approximate number of English words starting with each of the letters you mentioned:

• J: There are approximately 805 to 12,789 words that start with ‘J’.
• K: There are approximately 2,145 to 4,954 words that start with ‘K’.
• Q: There are approximately 1,352 to 5,089 words that start with ‘Q’.
• U: There are approximately 2,464 to 22,443 words that start with ‘U’.
• V: There are approximately 1,400 to 3,000 words that start with ‘V’.
• W: There are approximately 2,464 to 23,755 words that start with ‘W’.
• X: There are approximately 400 to 5424 words that start with ‘X’.
• Y: There are approximately 269 to 5424 words that start with ‘Y’.
• Z: There are approximately 693 to 5424 words that start with ‘Z’.

 

[Corey]

@Inframan the definition is Industry based.

Cheers
Corey

 

[biggie]

Is this based on actual sales?

Hi

don't give the "premium letter vs non premium letter" thingy, too much weight.

it all depends on the placement of them, within the domain.

imo...

 

[dncafe]

Is this based on actual sales? {J, U ,W} shouldn't be on the list of lesser quality letters.
Here is the approximate number of English words starting with each of the letters you mentioned:

• J: There are approximately 805 to 12,789 words that start with ‘J’.
• K: There are approximately 2,145 to 4,954 words that start with ‘K’.
• Q: There are approximately 1,352 to 5,089 words that start with ‘Q’.
• U: There are approximately 2,464 to 22,443 words that start with ‘U’.
• V: There are approximately 1,400 to 3,000 words that start with ‘V’.
• W: There are approximately 2,464 to 23,755 words that start with ‘W’.
• X: There are approximately 400 to 5424 words that start with ‘X’.
• Y: There are approximately 269 to 5424 words that start with ‘Y’.
• Z: There are approximately 693 to 5424 words that start with ‘Z’.

Hi

don't give the "premium letter vs non premium letter" thingy, too much weight.

it all depends on the placement of them, within the domain.

imo...

A lot of that whole premium CHIPS stuff is BS and part of a big pump and dump scam around 2015. An "anonymous" group bought up many of these so called "CHIP" domains in COM/NET/ORG and then botted and spammed marketplaces with new accounts, creating fake demand for the domains and sold of thousands of their own domains.

 

[forge]

A lot of that whole premium CHIPS stuff is BS and part of a big pump and dump scam around 2015. An "anonymous" group bought up many of these so called "CHIP" domains in COM/NET/ORG and then botted and spammed marketplaces with new accounts, creating fake demand for the domains and sold of thousands of their own domains.

Dude, how many more times must you parrot this response, till the end of time?

Anyway, I am sure @biggie is well aware of the so-called "CHIP" period, which was a whole lot more nuanced than you seem to recollect it as.

 

[biggie]

Anyway, I am sure biggie is well aware of the so-called "CHIP" period,

Hi

yeah, i had some before they were being called CHIPS.
and when they fit the new label, i certainly benefitted on the roi.

but that category isn't what i was referring to.

imo....

 

[cache]

Perhaps you are overpaying?

Wholesale prices have went from $100 doubled to $200:
Check out this slick primer and my favorite LLLL.com wholesale source; NP is still cheaper:

Recall, there are only 456,976 LLLL.com (no -,#) all taken since 2013: My favorite niche; so versatile; acronyms (ibkr.com) to pronounceable ebay; words: Nuts, chill etc..

Why did you say "all taken since 2013"? See this:

 

[Samer]

Why did you say "all taken since 2013"? See this:

You know your stuff!
I was referring to my earliest memory of Mainstream news confirmation: Slate; Dec 04, 2013:

https://slate.com/technology/2013/1...aimed-llll-dot-coms-left-on-the-internet.html

 

[dncafe]

Dude, how many more times must you parrot this response, till the end of time?

Anyway, I am sure @biggie is well aware of the so-called "CHIP" period, which was a whole lot more nuanced than you seem to recollect it as.

Sounds like someones bitter about getting PUMPED and not being able to DUMP

 

[karmaco]

It‘s industry created and a straight up industry hoax at this point. Haven’t seen any huge sales of these so called “premium“ four letters in the entire time I have been doing this.

The ones that do sell with any regularity for high amounts are cvcv and/or highly pronounceable. But by all means keep trading the same garbage back and forth. I won’t stop you.

 

[alcy]

It‘s industry created and a straight up industry hoax at this point. Haven’t seen any huge sales of these so called “premium“ four letters in the entire time I have been doing this.

The ones that do sell with any regularity for high amounts are cvcv and/or highly pronounceable. But by all means keep trading the same garbage back and forth. I won’t stop you.

booth sold miri round 100k a day ago ... cool name

 

[NameMaxi.com]

I am noticing the prices for 4 letter dot com names are going down since last fifteen days. Random nmes are disdained to sell for $100 each.

Still CVCV names are getting higher prices. But supplies are very limited.

I was looking for cheaper names at NamePros, Namejet, DropCatch, Godaddy Marketplaces/Auctions, nowhere they are available for $100.

What should be our strategy? Should we sell them at such lower prices or hold them till we get a fair price? Till recently we used to sell a random 4 letter name with J and Q for $150, but now it is $100.

Please share your valuable thoughts.

Just like any other investors in different investment fields, it's not really the best move to sell something that you held for quite some time because of a slight or minor fluctuation of the market.

The strategy would be to hold the name and be updated on the happenings in the domain name space. 15 days would not be a heavy factor to consider especially when you zoom out on the price actions over the years. .com is still king when it comes to sales and price actions.

In fact right now if you can check, the cheapest price in the 4L market is around $189-198. If there’s $100 name available, I’ll probably grab a bulk of it.

 

[BYYP]

I think nonsense LLLL have zero value. Most popular Chinese websites on good dotcoms.

 

[robosapien]

I'm sharing an insider tip with everyone: starting from January 2024, the prices for random 4-letter .com domains will go down. So, those who have shown interest in this topic will have a good opportunity to buy them at lower prices. Happy shopping!

 

[talas]

The premium ones should still be premium.
The price of meaningless names does not get a stable base.

 

[Corey]

Just won an auction a Quad Premium for $ 8XX.00

Cheers
Corey

 

[Hakuna matata]

I'll tell you what. If you are selling 4 letter .com domains for $100 each please PM me back now

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