Any possible you purchased an expiring domain on TDNAM, but ...

[owntype]

UPDATED: Now, it is almost 3 hours past the "Yours On" date and time. I still haven't received the domain name. However, In TDNAM - My Account, it still shows I won this name. Finally, this case happened.

I have experienced the pain that a purchased expiring domain be renewed by its owner before the TDNAM "Yours On" date.

But here I wanna know is there any possible that you still couldn't get the domain on "Yours On" date and after neither. Thank you

 

[mkylut]

What kind of expired domain? $5 (closeouts) or auction? I believe that there is no way the owner can renew $5 closeouts domains.

 

[owntype]

What kind of expired domain? $5 (closeouts) or auction? I believe that there is no way the owner can renew $5 closeouts domains.

Yes, I mean the $5 closeouts domains.

thx

 

[Mark]

Ever wonder how many "owners" let their Domains start to expire and then watch to see if any bids are placed ? I'd bet many do :o

 

[mkylut]

I already emailed Godaddy support (last year) regarding this matter and the rep clearly stated to me (in the email) that the owner can't renew closeouts domains.

 

[owntype]

I already emailed Godaddy support (last year) regarding this matter and the rep clearly stated to me (in the email) that the owner can't renew closeouts domains.

Thank you for this info.

I recently purchased 3 .com $5 expiring domains at the same day and the same "Yours On" date.

Two of them has been delivered to my Godaddy account 8 hours ago, HOWEVER, the last one (I purchased this 3 hours earlier than those two) hasn't appeared in my account till now.

The strange thing is, when visiting this .com, it used to be parked with godaddy, but now the parking page theme has been changed, and the registrar changed to "WILD WEST DOMAINS, INC" which is a reseller of Godaddy. But I have checked this these days, it always shows Godaddy.

Maybe I am that unlucky? The owner renewed this name at the last seconds before deliver to me? But in my TDNAM account, this .com still shows in my WON List ...

:yell:

 

[Name Trader]

I think the original owner can still renew $5 closeouts, else why do tdnam still hold them for 14 days? IIRC, I've even lost one because the original owner renewed.

 

[Spade]

I already emailed Godaddy support (last year) regarding this matter and the rep clearly stated to me (in the email) that the owner can't renew closeouts domains.

Unfortunately this is just not true. Not all of the Reps at GoDaddy really know how TDNAM works and unfortunately the training is sub par. (I would know!)

But, the issue is how domains at TDNAM work.

First the domain name expries, once it "breaks" the 12 day "grace" period that GoDaddy gives you, the domain name appears on TDNAM for a 10 day auction period.

If a backorder is placed on the domain name prior to the expiration, that backorder acts as the first bid when the domain hits the auction floor. If a backorder is placed on the domain name while the domain is at auction, that backorder will grab the domain name before it goes to the "closeouts".

A domain name if it does not fetch a bid durring auction, is than sent to the "closeout" $5 BIN for a period of 5 days (assuming no backorder is placed whiel the domain is at auction). After the auction ends (even the BINs) Technically the owner still has PLENTY of time to redeem the domain name.

Justin

 

[owntype]

After the auction ends (even the BINs) Technically the owner still has PLENTY of time to redeem the domain name.

Justin

After purchased the $5 domain, there is a "Yours On" date (12:00 AM that day) shows in your Account.

My question is - is it possible that you still can not get the name on the "Yours On" date?

 

[Spade]

After purchased the $5 domain, there is a "Yours On" date (12:00 AM that day) shows in your Account.

My question is - is it possible that you still can not get the name on the "Yours On" date?

The answer is "yes"

The Domain name CAN still be redeemed by the original owner.

 

[owntype]

The answer is "yes"

The Domain name CAN still be redeemed by the original owner.

Then may I say TDNAM sucks? :yell:

 

[Spade]

Then may I say TDNAM sucks? :yell:

You May. LoL, but! If it was your domain, and you didnt realize it was expiring, arent u glad you have that time period to redeem?

Justin

 

[cache]

what significance is the backorder is placed whether before or during
the auction period? From your description "backorder will grab the domain name", does it mean that if I place a backorder during an auction period, I will win the auction even if other people's bid were higher?

Unfortunately this is just not true. Not all of the Reps at GoDaddy really know how TDNAM works and unfortunately the training is sub par. (I would know!)

But, the issue is how domains at TDNAM work.

First the domain name expries, once it "breaks" the 12 day "grace" period that GoDaddy gives you, the domain name appears on TDNAM for a 10 day auction period.

If a backorder is placed on the domain name prior to the expiration, that backorder acts as the first bid when the domain hits the auction floor. If a backorder is placed on the domain name while the domain is at auction, that backorder will grab the domain name before it goes to the "closeouts".

A domain name if it does not fetch a bid durring auction, is than sent to the "closeout" $5 BIN for a period of 5 days (assuming no backorder is placed whiel the domain is at auction). After the auction ends (even the BINs) Technically the owner still has PLENTY of time to redeem the domain name.

Justin

 

[Spade]

what significance is the backorder is placed whether before or during
the auction period? From your description "backorder will grab the domain name", does it mean that if I place a backorder during an auction period, I will win the auction even if other people's bid were higher?

Well, when you place a backorder 2 things can happen.

If you place it before the start of auction, your backorder will act as the first bid.

If you place a backorder while the domain is at auction, no bid will be placed. And if the domain name is not bid on, the backorder will actually catch the domain name after auction. So, the domain will not go to the $5 Blowout BIN. Kind of a sly way to grab a domain name without bringing any attention to it.

I learned this the hardway. I had made an assumption that a domain with no bids on it would end up in the $5 BIN, so I made no attempt to capture it. But when it failed to show up in the BIN after several hours, I called TDNAM to inquire why some go straight to BIN and others do not. this is when I learned of the Backorger stages. Alas, I lost a great name by trying to save myself a few dollars..... really angry at myself for that one.

 

[cache]

it is nice to know your case, did not know that before.
But what if you place a backorder while the domain is at auction, there are still bid placed?

Well, when you place a backorder 2 things can happen.

If you place it before the start of auction, your backorder will act as the first bid.

If you place a backorder while the domain is at auction, no bid will be placed. And if the domain name is not bid on, the backorder will actually catch the domain name after auction. So, the domain will not go to the $5 Blowout BIN. Kind of a sly way to grab a domain name without bringing any attention to it.

I learned this the hardway. I had made an assumption that a domain with no bids on it would end up in the $5 BIN, so I made no attempt to capture it. But when it failed to show up in the BIN after several hours, I called TDNAM to inquire why some go straight to BIN and others do not. this is when I learned of the Backorger stages. Alas, I lost a great name by trying to save myself a few dollars..... really angry at myself for that one.

 

[IAmAllanShore]

Note to Bob:
K.I.S.S.
If an ex support employee has to take multiple posts to explain TDNAM's intricacies....

 

[Mark]

Note to Bob:
K.I.S.S.
If an ex support employee has to take multiple posts to explain TDNAM's intricacies....

Thats good

 

[owntype]

info updated

 

[Spade]

Note to Bob:
K.I.S.S.
If an ex support employee has to take multiple posts to explain TDNAM's intricacies....

Too true. It does get exceptionally complicated, more so than neccesary. (Some clarification, I finnished my tour with GoDaddy as a billing representative).

Cache,

The answer to your question is actually in the quotation you copied.

"If you place a backorder while the domain is at auction, no bid will be placed"

If this occurs and the domain is not bid on, the domain will be captured by the backorder at the end of the auction. Thus the domain name will not go to the $5 Closeouts.

 

[gingeman]

Just a wonderful way for Godaddy to have your money in their bank account, earning them interest, until the original owner finally renews, then you have to wait for ages until you are finally credited for a refund, which often you only get after you physically request it. I often struggle to understand whether the manner in which the expired auctions work on tdnam is even legal. Not to mention their 'backorders' - which only catch crap names nobody wants, and you can't be refunded on when you finally find this out. You got to hand it to Parsons though, he must be laughing hard while he watches the roll in.