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Another Long One...But a Good On This Time...Or Am I Crazy?

Located in General Domain Discussion started by Dustie, Apr 21, 2019.

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  1. hookbox

    hookbox Top Member VIP

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    If you had $1600 to waste on this .art domain then you should have kicked back @maxtra at least a few hundred bucks for giving back Dustie.com for nothing. Just sayin'
     
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  2. HotKey

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    Taking off domainer cap, putting on end user glasses. Because you are asking, I believe, from a creative stance, not reseller:

    I always tell my daughter, be the pack leader, not the pack, whenever she tells me all her friends are doing it. And when we apply "group think" to domain names, sometimes we miss the point and also miss out on some beautiful domains. I think people like you, who forge ahead or at least consider forging ahead with new concepts, are the ones who ultimately are defining tomorrows domain names, today.

    Because the premium purchase on your particular domain is a one-time fee, meaning you don't have to worry about doing it over and over again every year, I think it's a worthwhile purchase for you. You're an artist, have discovered the .art extension, and you've found an exact fit to your personal brand (Dustie), I can totally understand the connection.

    I also get how you don't feel the connection with the advised .com version, totally see how it really changes things. It takes out the "creative" and just becomes boring. Just another .com.

    I think it is always wise to give a day or two contemplation before dropping xxxx amount of dollars into a name, so maybe it was meant to be the transaction didn't complete. Buyers remorse is the worst with domain names- but sometimes non-buyers remorse is an even bigger challenge to overcome!

    We are heading into the new G's about 5 years now, I honestly don't think you have to worry about people confusing emails, lol. People will "get" it, and you could always an attractive little explanation of sorts on your site to begin with.

    Anyhow, nope don't think your crazy, nothing wrong with spending xxxx amount on something you love and plan to use. The combination of name+extension makes sense and people should not have any issues understanding- especially creative artsy folk! I would forward corresponding .com to the .art to give it a good foothold (if you were to buy it). Now, as resale value, I would not drop that kind cash on that particular name and extension. But that's a different conversation.
     
  3. Internet.Domains

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    When the excitement ends this one will hurt. Please take the good advice given and grace delete.
     
  4. SuperBrander

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    @HotKey She didn't pay a premium price for her name Dustie. She paid a regular price for Dustie.art. She wanted to pay a premium price for the version she thinks people will confuse her name with- Dusty.art.
     
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  5. hookbox

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    Not she wanted to, she did.
     
  6. Dustie

    Dustie Upgraded Member Blue Account ★★★★★★★★★★

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    Ok...I guess this wasn't a well thought out as I thought it was. My credit card hasn't gone though according to them. They sent as they me an email requesting payment last night. So I wrote and ask that they cancel the transaction, that I had made a mistake. Hopefully they will do this when the request to cancel came in less then 24 hours and my card wasn't charge. Tried to read if there were a grace period as Data Cube reported but I couldn't find any information on that policy.
     
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  7. NameDeck

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    From a domainers perspective it doesn't make sense to buy dusty.art at that price. However, you mentioned people might/will make a typo emailing you.

    I haven't checked out your work so I don't know what your average sales are. A single email ending up undelivered might result in a lost art deal. Having the dusty.art domain may prevent that.

    I'm by no means saying you should buy/keep it. Only you can estimate how missed emails will impact your sales.

    I recently acquired a common typo for a cardealer I'm working with on the aftermarket. A single extra sale will pay for the total acquisition cost. It is something to concider no matter the extension (com, ccTLD, ngtld or whatever) but only you can judge whether it may worth it.
     
  8. bmugford

    bmugford www.DataCube.com PRO ICA Member VIP ★★★★★★★★★★

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    The domain was not registered. It seems the transaction was never completed in the first place.
    I am not sure how they could force you to pay.

    Brad
     
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  9. bmugford

    bmugford www.DataCube.com PRO ICA Member VIP ★★★★★★★★★★

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    I saw it on Dynadot's link to the .ART extension information -

    https://www.dynadot.com/domain/art.html

    Brad
     
  10. HotKey

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    If payment hasn't gone thru, I don't believe you have anything to worry about. There is no grace period on a domain that hasn't been registered. In fact, you can probably just safely ignore the whole transaction, nothing to cancel.

    Oh. I understand now. Totally agree, complete waste of money to purchase a domain just to cover mix-ups, particularly premium priced. It could become never-ending, might as well start worrying about plural spellings too and whatnot.
     
  11. hookbox

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    I read that a company has up to 30 days to charge your card as soon as you give them authorization to do so.
     
  12. bmugford

    bmugford www.DataCube.com PRO ICA Member VIP ★★★★★★★★★★

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    That would be pretty bad PR for a company when it comes to not charging your card, you requesting cancellation, and then they charge it later anyway.

    This is for an intangible good. It is not like it is a tangible good that was custom made for the buyer.
    It is not an undue burden to just cancel it.

    Brad
     
  13. IDNKing

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    You own the king and still waste money in other ext.
    With your dustie.com you don't need any other options you own the king ext.
    If art is the issue .. you can create subdomain art.dustie.com when you develop your name
    If I'm an art girl and my name is dustie I will go for dustie.art option just if it's a dream to own dustie.com
    That's all
     
  14. HotKey

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    If you were an art girl, and you're name was dustie, would you be taking advice from someone who specializes in IDN's?

    I'm just saying, try wearing her lens, to see what she's getting at, in terms of finding a connection with a domain name.
     
  15. SuperBrander

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    She tried to. I didn't write that she paid because her credit card hasn't been charged. At least not at this point in time.
     
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  16. hookbox

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    My bad.
     
  17. Dustie

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    Once again you guys come to my rescue...it is never ending! And hookbox, you are right. If and when I know this purchase is null and void, I will work on doing that.

    Though I like dusty.art (as an end user) and it would help me with the ie vs y probliem, going into debt for it at this time is probably not a good idea.

    Thanks again everyone for your thougts!
     
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  18. bmugford

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    It is "only" $966 if you buy it on Dynadot. That is another problem with the new extensions and premium registration and/or renewal fees. They vary so greatly by registrar it makes it extremely confusing.

    Brad
     
  19. NameDeck

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    I've always been wondering, does the difference in price go to the registrar? Seems like a big difference, $1000 VS $1600. Speaking of upselling.
     
  20. HotKey

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    It's like domainers, they can all set their own pricing to whatever they choose. But the base "premium" price comes from the registry.
     
  21. Dustie

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    Brad[/QUOTE]
    That is Crazy! I thought I'd checked Dynadot? I do really hope I have no problem canceling this transaction. They do not have my credit card on file according to them, so that should help. I certainly do not want to buy it at twice the price that someone else has it listed!
     
  22. Dustie

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    So, in essence, regstrars have now become domainers themselves? What's to stop them, then, from taking a valuable domain name that was registered with them, which someone let expire, and offer through their Premium Domain program for 10,000.00? Wouldn't such a practice pretty much put a nail in the coffin of many domainers?
     
  23. bmugford

    bmugford www.DataCube.com PRO ICA Member VIP ★★★★★★★★★★

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    Nothing. That is what many of these registries are trying to do, like .art for instance.
    They reserved 3.5M .art domains as "premiums" which is ridiculous.

    Most of these new extensions have very few actual premium combinations in quality, they are just premium in pricing.

    Brad
     
  24. HotKey

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    Exactly what Brad said. And to add, in terms of investing into these kind of extensions, any honest domainer will you there are massive risks involved. I'd say many, if not most of these new extensions, like .art, are geared towards end users, not towards re-sellers.

    Your nail in the coffin analogy, well, there's always good ol' legacy fallbacks, like .com, org or ccTLDs (but even some of the good names in those have been snatched back by registries in recent times) to invest in, and is the reason why experienced investors shy away from nG's and advise so heavily into the tried, tested and true, not to mention, trusted extensions.
     
  25. Larion

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    it seems "art" is always expensive :xf.wink:
     
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