alert Epik Had A Major Breach

Future Sensors said:

Sure, and we can or may even agree on that. But it's a fact now and we can't deny. Or can we.

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Let's recap.

HIBP: My whois data was exposed in epik breach,

Me: Whois data is not secret and is easy to find.

You, brad, half a dozen other people. OMG!! GDRP!!

Me: In context your data was made public by criminals.

You, brad, dn playbook,, etc..: yada yada yada.. finger wagging.

The description on HIBP has a lot of nuance about the first breach:

In September 2021, the domain registrar and web host Epik suffered a significant data breach, allegedly in retaliation for hosting alt-right websites. The breach exposed a huge volume of data not just of Epik customers, but also scraped WHOIS records belonging to individuals and organisations who were not Epik customers. The data included over 15 million unique email addresses (including anonymised versions for domain privacy), names, phone numbers, physical addresses, purchases and passwords stored in various formats.

https://haveibeenpwned.com/PwnedWebsites#Epik

mr-x said:

Let's recap.

HIBP: My whois data was exposed in epik breach,

Me: Whois data is not secret and is easy to find.

You, brad, half a dozen other people. OMG!! GDRP!!

Me: In context your data was made public by criminals.

You, brad, dn playbook,, etc..: yada yada yada.. finger wagging.

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You have been trying to minimizes Epik's role in this at every stage.

Let's recap.

- Epik was running some "Shitty Russian Code" from over a decade ago. They supposedly did not even see the code until the data breach.

- They had no problem constantly marketing about their security.

- Their security was actually shit, clearly violating some regulations and industry standard practices when it came to storage and security of the data.

I guess thoughts, prayers, and curses are no substitute for actual security protocols.

Brad

mr-x said:

How many times can we go over the same thing? Am I allowed to express my opinion that Anonymous's crimes are worse than Epik's incompetence?

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This isn't just about Epik incompetence. This is about fraud, which is also a crime. Whether or not hacking or fraud is more serious is a moot point, especially in this thread. Monster's constant and very over the top attempts to silence any revelations of his fraudulent claims have just been ignored, mocked, attacked or threatened. Proof that he also knows he is swimming in some seriously dangerous waters.

bmugford said:

You have been trying to minimizes Epik's role in this at every stage.

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I called Epik incompetent.

bmugford said:

Let's recap.

- Epik was running some "Shitty Russian Code" from over a decade ago. They supposedly did not even see the code until the data breach.

- They had no problem constantly marketing about their security.

- Their security was actually shit, clearly violating some regulations and industry standard practices when it came to storage and security of the data.

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bmugford said:

I guess thoughts, prayers, and curses are no substitute for actual security protocols.

Brad

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This is condescending and prejudiced. I've never said or suggested anything like this.

mr-x said:

This is condescending and prejudiced. I've never said or suggested anything like this.

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I never said you did. It was Rob Monster who said the data was "cursed".

I was just pointing out that employing industry standard security protocols might have been more effective in lieu of "cursed" data.

Brad

bmugford said:

I never said you did. It was Rob Monster who said the data was "cursed".

I was just pointing out that employing industry standard security protocols might have been more effective in lieu of "cursed" data.

Brad

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Sure. How many more times are you going to bring that up?

mr-x said:

Sure. How many more times are you going to bring that up?

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As many times as I feel like.

Epik's shitty security is not any less relevant as time goes on. When you say the data is "cursed" you deserve to be mocked.

Brad

I think the most important thing in all of this is the users of Epik services and the users of the users of Epik services. Let's not forget it isn't just Epik's direct customers who were hurt by this Epik Fail, but also the users of all those sites that were hosted by Epik. What I know for certain, based on their own words and actions is that:
1) Rob Monster doesn't care about them. He has made no admissions and done nothing to explain what all happened who was affected.
2) Hackers don't care about them. They have made it abundantly clear that they want to destroy the lives of those users and even help put many of these people in jail who happen to live in countries that punish people for thoughts and words.
3) Govts don't care about them. They just want the data so they can prosecute and use as excuse to enforce more tyranny on humanity.

The one person who is responsible and the one person who should care has not only done nothing to help but aggressively attacked those that do. @robmonster is that person.

bmugford said:

As many times as I feel like.

Brad

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Absolute proof of the biased mods here. Most of your posts are recycled trash that you've spewed ad nauseum. But I've made posts that go against you and the other creatures of habit in this thread and I get deleted because I'm not nice. Oh well. I'm glad I'm capable of an original thought at least. Let's see how long it takes the mods to delete this when you go crying to them

internext said:

Absolute proof of the biased mods here. Most of your posts are recycled trash that you've spewed ad nauseum. But I've made posts that go against you and the other creatures of habit in this thread and I get deleted because I'm not nice. Oh well. I'm glad I'm capable of an original thought at least. Let's see how long it takes the mods to delete this when you go crying to them

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Most of my posts are on topic regarding the Epik data breach. It you don't like it....tough.

Brad

bmugford said:

Most of my posts are on topic regarding the Epik data breach. It you don't like it....tough.

Brad

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Got to love keyboard warriors.

Dear mods please delete my former posts that I made tonight. I know better than to try to have an opposing view with people who just repeat themselves. It's like I'm just arguing with myself in effect. And I'm far too mean. I'm a real baddie. Let the hackers and their buddies have their fun I don't want any part of this thread anymore. I honestly knew better than to involve myself again but man these stutterers are maddening. And shamelessly proud of their intellectual limitations

@robmonster seems to have gone full on Bill Gates in attempt to clean up his rep and deflect away from the ongoing Epik hack and soothe his faltering ego. I was honestly expecting some form of fake penance or self-flagellation before going back to full on saint mode but, nope. I guess a year of credit monitoring is all anyone is gonna get.

PS. Hopefully there are no more Steve Jobs ever in the world. He was a terrible human.

bmugford said:

I would like to know about the first point. My understanding was ID documentation was not included in this breach. Is that not the case?

Passport and potentially other ID documentation would make this even more of a disaster.

Brad

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Brad, after the breach, I found an image of my old passport which I had to upload for something in 2019 permanently stored in my profile. In the same main menu where you find address, phone numbers, etc. So I assumed that it was part of the breach. Difficult to check with 180GB torrent. But you are right that it's also possible that the passport attachments weren't included in the breach. At least they were accessible by hackers without doubt.

I want to add that finally Epik has given me access to my account again after first refusing it without upload of new passport. Maybe they saw the post.

mr-x said:

Whois data is public. You can choose to hide your information but it is still public data and can be found free or purchased.

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OK, how do you square the whois data being scraped by Epik against TOS by virtue of it being public or available to purchase with the data dump from the hack? Isn't it the pot calling the kettle black?

internext said:

Absolute proof of the biased mods here. Most of your posts are recycled trash that you've spewed ad nauseum. But I've made posts that go against you and the other creatures of habit in this thread and I get deleted because I'm not nice. Oh well. I'm glad I'm capable of an original thought at least. Let's see how long it takes the mods to delete this when you go crying to them

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Hey, I have had my posts deleted for not being nice or being off topic. I don't cry about it. I used to. Now I accept that this is not my forum. The mods have the right to keep it up to their standards. If your posts were deleted there must have been a reason beyond that you disagreed with another member. You can always DM mods if you don't understand the reason. I find them very responsive.

BrunoWillis said:

I want to add that finally Epik has given me access to my account again after first refusing it without upload of new passport. Maybe they saw the post.

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Of course. Rob is watching this thread.

DN Playbook said:

OK, how do you square the whois data being scraped by Epik against TOS by virtue of it being public or available to purchase with the data dump from the hack? Isn't it the pot calling the kettle black?

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I don't have too. But you should consider your support for anonymous stealing, then releasing that data to stop "dangerous thoughts".

mr-x said:

I don't have too. But you should consider your support for anonymous stealing, then releasing that data to stop "dangerous thoughts".

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Mr X, I see you repeatedly suspect more and more people that they are defending the group that leaked the data. However, this by no means seems to be the case in this thread. The fact that people are now present here who are probably in contact with the group (or actor) responsible for the hacks, does not mean that they have committed a criminal offense themselves. They are entitled to participate in this discussion, as long as it's done in a decent manner and within the framework of the law and the rules of this forum. And yes, they are rebellious, but that is not punishable, Epik is the same. We've seen other heated debates related to Epik on this forum often.

In another thread I already pointed out that all discussions with all participants actually help LEA in the investigations into those who hacked Epik. It definitely helps Epik and Epik's customers when the perpetrators of the hack can be held accountable, although the chances of this being successful are slim. In a similar way, LEA and cybersecurity firms are negotiating ransoms with ransomware gangs and learn how they operate. I strongly recommend that you learn more about what's going on in the cybersec world and its culture before you insult all kinds of people that they are colluding with the hackers.

> Don't kid yourself. People work for money. This is not a religion or a charity. You hire people, you pay them money, what do you expect. They will try to make you happy. Especially when you hire freelancers from less developed countries. They will tell you whatever you want to hear to be hired. This makes the poll skewed.

Rob Monster: Nah, we call those people whores. We don't hire whores. If you did, that's on you.

Derek Peterson: So desperate people in 3rd world countries trying to survive and doing whatever they can do make their boss happy are whores? Nice Rob. What is chapter and verse for that one?

Okay, I stand corrected, I should not use the term "shill". The proper, professionally acceptable term is "brand ambassador". I'm still a little confused on Epik titles because he just said that someone who works for and promotes Epik only for money is a "whore", so what does that make Monster?

(There is not person living in an impoverished country, struggling to keep roof over their head, put food in their kids' mouths or pay medical bills that cares about some domain registrar in US so basically he considers all these people whores.)

Anyway, this is Rob Monster admitting that he hired a bunch of people from impoverished countries to promote Epik on social networks, including namepros, and elsewhere. Here is the job description for a Brand Ambassador: https://www.namepros.com/threads/hi...ct-managers-and-executive-leadership.1162639/

Attached is Rob Monster admitting to using NamePros to recruit these people, he considers whores.

Derek Peterson said:

> Don't kid yourself. People work for money. This is not a religion or a charity. You hire people, you pay them money, what do you expect. They will try to make you happy. Especially when you hire freelancers from less developed countries. They will tell you whatever you want to hear to be hired. This makes the poll skewed.

Rob Monster: Nah, we call those people whores. We don't hire whores. If you did, that's on you.

Derek Peterson: So desperate people in 3rd world countries trying to survive and doing whatever they can do make their boss happy are whores? Nice Rob. What is chapter and verse for that one?

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Well, if receiving fair compensation for your work makes you a "whore" that explains a lot.

No wonder there is such a high level of incompetence.

How Christlike to call people "whores". If someone else did the same Rob would probably be talking about their eternal soul or whatever.

Brad

bmugford said:

Well, if receiving fair compensation for your work makes you a "whore" that explains a lot.

No wonder there is such a high level of incompetence.

How Christlike to call people "whores". If someone else did the same Rob would probably be talking about their eternal soul or whatever.

Brad

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The Bible uses the term "whore" many times BUT not referring to poor people working to survive. This is just so disgusting on so many levels I don't even know what to say. It does explain a lot though, he thinks of his employees like whores, his customers like Johns and he is the CEP (Chief Executive Pimp).