Discuss your Epik Experience!

dande · Jul 24, 2019

I think Epik is building the best ever Domain Lander in the history of domaining, and it really needs to be talked about extensively. That's why I am creating this discussion thread. A lot of thought process really goes into the project. And I can see (for the first time) a landing page that is built from the stand point of domainers rather than for just the marketplace itself.

Everything you have ever dreamt of getting or seeing in a professional landing page can be found in the new Epik marketplace landing page design.

Some of my Favorites Features:

1. The ability to optimize your "domain for sale" landing page to actually rank on Google, displaying your sales pitch/domain description. I just did that with few of my generic domain names such as ASAP.TV, targeting certain keywords, and they are showing pretty well on Google. That's a huge plus in my marketing effort.

2. Being able to change background image is another huge one for me. If you are good with pictures and images, you will surely find this very useful. I did that with Nagasaki.org and the result was truly amazing, showing the city of Nagasaki right at the background.

There are too many positive features and I don't want to mention all of them, all alone

So I am leaving you guys to share and discuss what you loves most or dislike about the new Epik marketplace and the landing pages.

The only negative for me is the checkout process. There are too many terms and conditions buttons to tick before checking out. It will be nice if they can streamline those into one beautiful big button

They also need to place the checkout button directly under the payment options. Right now it is awkwardly place somewhere below at the sidebar, which I don't find cool at all.

Sales experience is also welcomed in this discussion. I haven't had any sells so far at Epik because I started using the marketplace just recently, but the future is looking so bright.

Dynadot · Oct 14, 2021

Jurgen Wolf said:
Why @Dynadot doesn't support .REALTY?
Some hard requirements of Registry?

I'm not familiar with the policies for .REALTY domains myself, unfortunately, but have forwarded the question on to our team to check if they have any more information and if we may be able to support .REALTY domains in future, thank you.

ET76 · Oct 20, 2021

I found Expected Drop Date of Epik Backorder is inaccurate. The domain should be drop in couple of days (I saw at expireddomains.net) but on the confirmation email is next year 10/18/2022. I then deleted the backorder and re-backorder again but the result is the same.
How do you think @epik, @Epik.com is it normal... I mean is it going to work ? I'll PM the name if needed. Also tag @Rob Monster hopefully may help

Jurgen Wolf · Oct 20, 2021

I have never seen the accurate dates there.
And overall, their backorder service is just for fun, use another options...

ET76 · Oct 21, 2021

I had some successful backorder with Epik but no luck lately.

Name Trader · Oct 29, 2021

I have only been active on Epik for about 3 months for drop catching. I'm not going after the big fish. I like it because the dropcatch fee is only $8.49 (because we are all namepros members). Which is roughly 1/3rd of what Dynadot (my main registrar) charge for dropcatches. So I've been pleasantly surprised. My catch rate has been between 50-80%. But we are not talking about triple-A rated names here

Jurgen Wolf · Oct 29, 2021

@stub
So Epik beats Dynadot backorder, I understand correctly?
Or just better than Dyna API?

branding · Oct 29, 2021

Jurgen Wolf said:
@stub
So Epik beats Dynadot backorder, I understand correctly?
Or just better than Dyna API?

Not in my experience.

Good pricing though. But if you're looking for a cheap dropcatcher and are feeling lucky, use sav instead. YOLO.

Jurgen Wolf · Oct 29, 2021

stub said:
But we are not talking about triple-A rated names here

We are talking just about the regular competitors like Dynadot backorder...
If Epik beats it - then it is in the same league...

branding · Oct 29, 2021

Jurgen Wolf said:
We are talking just about the regular competitors like Dynadot backorder...
If Epik beats it - then it is in the same league...

It also highly depends on the tld you're after. Epik isn't any good if not for .com, maybe .net. you'll beat them by hand.

Just look at the number of registrars owned by a dropcatcher/registrar, that's your best bet.

If you're looking at domains that are gonna drop anyway, I'd rather bet my money on DD and sav given the number of registrars they operate. It's not really a bet either as you will only get charged on a successful catch, unlike with Epik.

Jurgen Wolf · Oct 29, 2021

Yes, they try to catch only Verisign TLDs...
All other TLDs with Epik are just for fun, pseudobackorder - in other words...

branding · Oct 29, 2021

Upside of Epik is however, if they do catch is, you'll win in. No funny auction bidding after
.

Name Trader · Oct 30, 2021

Jurgen Wolf said:
@stub
So Epik beats Dynadot backorder, I understand correctly?
Or just better than Dyna API?

I don't use the API. Only the regular website backorders at Dynadot. It's hard to tell. Because every domain is different. And I had a slight change of strategy using Epik (going for lower hanging fruit). In the beginning, the few times I backordered on both, only about 2 or 3 domains, Epik beat out Dynadot. And since that time, I stopped using Dynadot backorders (although this was primarily a price issue rather than a success rate issue). Before I used Epik. I was only backordering at Dynadot, my success rate was maybe <30%

I don't actually pay much attention to the success rate, because it really depends on each name and the likelihood that it will drop and stay dropped long enough to be picked up by somebody other than dropcatch. I'm not competing for super competitive domains, else I'd use dropcatch. I still use dropcatch infrequently. But at $59 for every drop catch, it quickly becomes expensive, if the domain drops and stays dropped long enough to be picked up by Epik at $8.49

With this strategy. I can afford to transfer the domains to Dynadot after 60 days. Which give me 2 years of registration to decide whether to keep or drop the domain

Name Trader · Oct 30, 2021

DirkS said:
It also highly depends on the tld you're after. Epik isn't any good if not for .com, maybe .net. you'll beat them by hand.

Just look at the number of registrars owned by a dropcatcher/registrar, that's your best bet.

If you're looking at domains that are gonna drop anyway, I'd rather bet my money on DD and sav given the number of registrars they operate. It's not really a bet either as you will only get charged on a successful catch, unlike with Epik.

Yeah. You pay up front for Epik drops. But they refund you very quickly if they don't win the domain. They have a strange system with their refunds. You pay normally, but they credit you in your account, not by credit to the same method as you paid. Which can be used to purchase other epik services, including other backorders.

Name Trader · Oct 30, 2021

DirkS said:
Upside of Epik is however, if they do catch is, you'll win in. No funny auction bidding after
.

Yeah! Unless you are in position #1, you won't win the domain

Jurgen Wolf · Oct 30, 2021

We don't need any super domains...
Just order the same 10 domains via Dynadot backorder and via Epik backorder... in parallel.
And compare results.

Name Trader · Oct 30, 2021

I'm only buying .com's at Epik.

Name Trader · Oct 30, 2021

Jurgen Wolf said:
We don't need any super domains...
Just order the same 10 domains via Dynadot backorder and via Epik backorder... in parallel.
And compare results.

Well as I said. I tried this for maybe 3 domains, and Epik won all three. Not a 100% confident sample. But it was enough to continue using Epik instead of Dynadot at three times the cost

It all depends if the domain is going to drop and stay dropped long enough to be caught by Epik

Jurgen Wolf · Oct 30, 2021

Dyna backorder also depends...
If just 1 domainer wants this domain - they spend minimum efforts to catch it...
So in this case Epik can beat Dyna.

Jurgen Wolf · Oct 30, 2021

stub said:
It all depends if the domain is going to drop and stay dropped long enough to be caught by Epik

The droptime for Verisign domains is ~accurate and known.
Registrars get droplist from Verisign with computed hh:mm:ss.

Name Trader · Oct 30, 2021

Jurgen Wolf said:
Dyna backorder also depends...
If just 1 domainer wants this domain - they spend minimum efforts to catch it...
So in this case Epik can beat Dyna.

Of course. Also if there are 2 domainers wanting it, with one at Dynadot and one at Epik. IMHO, Epik is a better chance of catching it. From my experience.

I am a Dynadot diehard user. It's my only Registrar of choice. I am not an Epik fanboy. I just tell it like I have seen it from my perspective with an inconclusive sampling. Also. As I've said before. Every dropcatch is a different and separate game of chance. If it is a must have domain, I order it at DropCatch. I do use DropCatch, but not that often. I have stopped backordering at Dynadot for the meantime. And I'm very satisfied with my drops won at Epik. I don't expect many of the Epik won backorders will stand the test of time, of 2 years. We shall see.

Name Trader · Oct 30, 2021

Jurgen Wolf said:
The droptime for Verisign domains is ~accurate and known.
Registrars get droplist from Verisign with computed hh:mm:ss.

Yeah. That's why there is a laser focus on drop time for the most sought after domains. I only compete for those, by I using DropCatch. But then there is a huge swathe of domains which land outside of that parameter, ranging from good quality to the kind of quality I wouldn't give to my grandmother

My quality aspiration is somewhere in-between

cillx · Nov 3, 2021

Sent an ACH payment on the 27th of October. Funds have not been added to my account yet. Don't know whether they received it or not. Support is unresponsive.

Seyikp · Nov 4, 2021

Please I just made my first sale on epik, and the domain is registered with sav 3days ago, still under 60 days inter registrar lock. Please does Epik have holding account with sav, that I can push the domain to?
The customer representative @ Epik seems not to understand me.

branding · Nov 5, 2021

I bought an expiring domain from Epik. Support continues at feeding me nonsense. I merely want to unlock the domain which already was at apik, renewed at Epik and remained at Epik but they continue to refer to ICANN 60 day locks upon ownership change and their TOS.

Things got bad when they got hacked but now it seems they're enforcing some really outdated policies that make no sense at all.

Don't keep my domain hostage for no good reason when you just made money out of my purchase.

Name Trader · Nov 5, 2021

DirkS said:
I bought an expiring domain from Epik. Support continues at feeding me nonsense. I merely want to unlock the domain which already was at apik, renewed at Epik and remained at Epik but they continue to refer to ICANN 60 day locks upon ownership change and their TOS.

Things got bad when they got hacked but now it seems they're enforcing some really outdated policies that make no sense at all.

Don't keep my domain hostage for no good reason when you just made money out of my purchase.

From my understanding, each Registry can make their own rules regarding renewal locks. If this is a .com, there are no renewal locks. But then not every Registrar follows the rules of the Registry. Look at the poor suffering GoDaddy users, for example. GoDaddy quote ICANN rules but Verisign can decide for themselves if there is a renewal lock, or not. It looks like Epik are now doing the same. I cannot tell you if this is a longstanding rule, or if this has changed after their user data was released. Dynadot is one of only a few registrars I know of which don't apply renewal locks on any verisign and donuts domains. In accordance of the wishes of the Registry. I cannot speak for every Registrar, but I think many of them (including GoDaddy) which put renewal locks to domains quoting ICANN rules, which don't apply in every case. ie .com. So for example, at Dynadot, I can renew a .com today and transfer it out the same day

Nice! (Not that I would).

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