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Hello everyone!
Facebook.com trying to steal my domains: NoviCoin.co and NoviPay.co and they sent me 2nd notice:
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I noticed NoviPay.com currently for sale at dan price $699,999
And many companies using "Novi".
 
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Give them what they want, say sorry
 
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Hello everyone!
Facebook.com trying to steal my domains: NoviCoin.co and NoviPay.co and they sent me 2nd notice:
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I noticed NoviPay.com currently for sale at dan price $699,999
And many companies using "Novi".

Don't give them free of cost cause you legally purchase that domain and if they raise complain against you then they need to pay $1500usd fees to take these domain.
trademark holder need to justify 3 point to take any domain.
(1) the domain name registered by Respondent is identical or confusingly similar to a trademark or service mark in which Complainant has rights; and

(2) Respondent has no rights or legitimate interests in respect of the domain name; and

(3) the domain name has been registered and is being used in bad faith.
if they failled even one of this point against you , then they can't take your domain.
https://www.udrpsearch.com/naf/1780755 read about this case where wkpdia failled to prove this point and the domain remains its owner .
if you justify above point in your favour then no one can take your domain.
Best of luck.
 
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Yes, WIPO is the trademark registering way on the global scale.
When you have a WIPO TM then you've the rights to use that registration worldwide.
I've just looked on their website and it's for registering trademarks using the Madrid protocol to which the countries are party to. So you can still choose which countries you'd liked protection in but you can do it as one application. So slight nuance there I think, you can choose one more many countries and you're not guaranteed worldwide protection but you can have protection in all of those countries subject to each individual one's registration procedures...

That's how I've read it anyway...
 
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I have replied to them: "it's not a TM and i don't know even 'Novi' is a reserved for FB, i buy these domains for my local online business.
Why i Buy NoviCoin in .co?
Because NoviCoin.com was already registered and it's out of my budget so i buy in .co and 'Novi' mean is 'New'.
My business plan:
I'm going to launch a website where i will collect user coin randomly and will give them with new design and style.
If you really want these domains and already i told you i was not aware this was your TM so i can you transfer these domains but you will pay some cost because i have already spend many dollar on this project"
 
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My understanding of this is that FB owns Novi Digital Wallet, they do not own NoviCoin.

NoviCoin was founded by Brown Williams from Australia, and still owns it today and just launched CryptoMerica.exchange.

Furthermore, FB only recently officially changed the name to Novi Digital Wallet from Digital Diem, and that was just announced August, 25. Before that, it was a work in progress project called Novi, but it wasn't official.

Someone correct me if I'm wrong on this, as I'm just going off memory and maybe things have changed.
 
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Drop the domains. Call your registrar and tell them you want to cancel these domains immediately, then let Google know.

Novi-XYZ is not trademarked is all instances, but you somehow picked "coin" which is an obvious infringement on their Novi wallet/financial services.
 
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it might depend on where fb has their tm. i think mani0307 is in pakistan. fb's tm may not be outside of the usa and europe. it's all in the datails. btw fb nor anyone else can claim sole ownership of the word...novi. anyone can use it, fb only has tm protection in a certain niche. Novi is a digital wallet created by Facebook. It allows users to easily send and receive money in Diem, DiemUSD, or XUS digital currencies. Novi Financial, a regulated financial company, is a subsidiary of Facebook, Inc. and is headquartered in Menlo Park, California. i think that novicoinwallet.info may be for sale on gd. are they going to try to intimidate him as well? i think the owner is in india. they might be trying to scare you in to giving it up. epik registered it for you. they contacted you through epik. maybe you should contact epik and see what they have to say first. http://www.novicoinwallet.info/
Interesting, but the term novi with the word coin (industry) would narrow down the category of the site that can be placed on that domain name.
 
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the op said he was not aware of the tm, so in that case he's really not guilty of "bad faith registration" though he could be guilty of bad faith "use," the legal words at wipo is "bad faith registration and use"
 
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the op said he was not aware of the tm, so in that case he's really not guilty of "bad faith registration" though he could be guilty of bad faith "use," the legal words at wipo is "bad faith registration and use"

Like anyone believes he just randomly registered Novi Coin.Please.
 
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You could probably make am argument with Novi but Novi Coin is so blatant I'm not even going to take the time to explain again
 
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So you can still choose which countries you'd liked protection in but you can do it as one application. So slight nuance there I think, you can choose one more many countries and you're not guaranteed worldwide protection but you can have protection in all of those countries subject to each individual one's registration procedures...

That's correct. The post to which you were responding is incorrect. The WIPO Madrid system application is just a uniform filing mechanism to establish an initial filing date for a single application which can then be further filed in various trademark offices around the world (if they are signatories to the relevant treaty).


I personally know the guy who got a check from Facebook for $100,000 a piece for each below.

Fcebook.com
Faceook.com
Facebok.com

Whoever told you that is a liar.

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https://www.wipo.int/amc/en/domains/search/text.jsp?case=d2010-1247

Facebook, Inc. v. Franz Bauer
Case No. D2010-1247

1. The Parties
The Complainant is Facebook, Inc. of Palo Alto, California, United States of America, represented by Cooley LLP, United States of America.

The Respondent is Franz Bauer of Munich, Germany.

2. The Domain Name and Registrar
The disputed domain name <facebok.com> is registered with EuroDNS S.A.
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That's correct. The post to which you were responding is incorrect. The WIPO Madrid system application is just a uniform filing mechanism to establish an initial filing date for a single application which can then be further filed in various trademark offices around the world (if they are signatories to the relevant treaty).




Whoever told you that is a liar.

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https://www.wipo.int/amc/en/domains/search/text.jsp?case=d2010-1247

Facebook, Inc. v. Franz Bauer
Case No. D2010-1247

1. The Parties
The Complainant is Facebook, Inc. of Palo Alto, California, United States of America, represented by Cooley LLP, United States of America.

The Respondent is Franz Bauer of Munich, Germany.

2. The Domain Name and Registrar
The disputed domain name <facebok.com> is registered with EuroDNS S.A.
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Maybe but I did do a check via Whois and it does show in the history at some point someone did own it prior to Facebook. This is why I believed the story.


never look into it much further than that.

never saw the check either. My friend did come into some life changing money. So no reason to doubt based on those two things. Plus it’s a specific pretty random a thing to say how he suddenly got money.

also not really exactly sure those were the exact domains all I know it was three domains with missing letters or typos.

also this was before Facebook started legally going after typosquatters.

thanks for the info though.
 
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Update:
They emailed me: "Thank you for agreeing to transfer the domain name novicoin.co.

To effectuate the transfer, a member of our registrar team will contact you to coordinate the transfer of novicoin.co and provide you with the transfer requirements.

Once again, thank you for complying with our request."

And my replied: Who is telling you that i'm transfering these domains to you free of cost and i have already told you these not FB TM if you want these domains just pay like other startups pays to seller of their products.
 
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They emailed me: "Thank you for agreeing to transfer the domain name novicoin.co.

To effectuate the transfer, a member of our registrar team will contact you to coordinate the transfer of novicoin.co and provide you with the transfer requirements.

Once again, thank you for complying with our request."

And my replied: Who is telling you that i'm transfering these domains to you free of cost and i have already told you these not FB TM if you want these domains just pay like other startups pays to seller of their products.

You still haven't answered this question.
 
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They do not want to steal your domains, you stole their domains to make a quick $ from copyrighted names.
 
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The way I read it, they want to buy the domain from OP and killing his negotiating acumen by hinting a legal threat. If they had a strong legal case they could have just approached the registrar through the overpaid lawyers and got the job done immediately without caring for a response from the owner. In a way, the registrar is charging annual fee for the domain and is the one actually profiting from its abuse.

For arguments sake, lets say OP decides to troll FB in return by registering their own trademark in a different category than what FB has in the respective WIPO jurisdictions. In that case FB lawyers would be forced to contest that trademark within that category where OP might have an advantage.

Of course, all this is assuming that OP has indeed validated the claims to be originating from FB's authorized representatives and not some shill law firms looking for easy money from FB later.
 
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I have a gut feeling this isn't going to end well...
 
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any update?
I recieved this message:
Domain name or content is infringing on a trademark or violating local laws or regulations.
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As you may know, the Anticybersquatting Consumer Protection Act provides for serious penalties (up to $100,000 per domain name) against persons who, without authorization, use, sell, or offer for sale a domain name that infringes another’s trademark.
 
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Just delete or give them the domain and that is it. I do not believe that you would like to go head to head with Facebook, you will most likely lose. Just my 2 cents.
 
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