Epik Promotion

bmugford said:

This is just self-promotional. It is not relevant to the discussion

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Agree. In my report, besides citing off-topic, I mentioned members already letting him know of the promotional issue, and at this point, it seemed like it evolved from just being promotional, to a conscious and an unmistakable level of trolling that not only disrupts the flow of conversation, but has led to folks leaving namePros.

Just because somebody here may have an Ivy League education, it doesn't mean that those of us who don't have such an education are mindless idiots solely here for the advertising disposal of somebody who may have an Ivy League education. If anything, it means the ivy league educated individual(s) here should stop playing dumb, move on from his or her stupid antics, and respect the forum accordingly.

If that individual won't police themselves, and if nP mods are restricted to their ToS, then the community needs to step up. Report off topic posts as protocol #1. Or get creative. If any epik individuals want to continue trolling, just troll back, and remind them of the time they read their customer landing page inquiry, then published it on twitter citing it as a complaint received, when in actuality epik got trolled. Essentially epik accepts nazi content, but draws the line at dolphins.

https://archive.li/qqPRe




The hopes being, if epik individuals have their off topic promotional posts greeted with the the off topic archive.li/qqPRE link / image, maybe enough chaos will ensue, to where epik <Dolphin H. Fucker> finally gets the hint, and stops the promotional madness.

Grilled said:

nP also largely relies on community moderation. Did either of you report @Rob Monster 's "And what if that $399 domain name" post? Because if not, we're equally to blame.

I reported his last post here as that was clearly off topic, hypothetical, and promotional.

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I reported him too, since yesterday for the NameLiquidate post and more, but no response yet.

bmugford said:

Nope. If Rob wants to post something in the discussion, others are allowed to share their thoughts and opinions on it. The discussion forum is not here for people to just push products or services without questions, comments, thoughts, opinions, etc.

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Sure you're all allowed to share your thoughts and opinions on it - but you're all blaming Rob for filling up this thread with your thoughts and opinions, and hence his need to respond, calling it blatant self promotion. !?!?!?!?

Frans said:

My observation is that you like "Rob" so much you even created a new account called "robs" and you really like Epik so much with all your posts in other threads defending Epik... maybe just an epic coincidence? I may be wrong, but just an observation.

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I have the same first name as the Epik CEO. Gosh, how fraudulent of both of us, must be something fishy going on. There's no way there could ever be another Rob somewhere in the world, and statistically near impossible that I also am interested in domains. As for me having some domains at Epik... well there's the smoking gun right there.

robs01 said:

Sure you're all allowed to share your thoughts and opinions on it - but you're all blaming Rob for filling up this thread with your thoughts and opinions, and hence his need to respond, calling it blatant self promotion. !?!?!?!?

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Which part of talking about the forever regs required Rob to promote Name Liquidate or DN Protect? I am confused.

He brought both up. They were both irrelevant to the discussion.

Brad

robs01 said:

Sure you're all allowed to share your thoughts and opinions on it - but you're all blaming Rob for filling up this thread with your thoughts and opinions, and hence his need to respond, calling it blatant self promotion. !?!?!?!?



I have the same first name as the Epik CEO. Gosh, how fraudulent of both of us, must be something fishy going on. There's no way there could ever be another Rob somewhere in the world, and statistically near impossible that I also am interested in domains. As for me having some domains at Epik... well there's the smoking gun right there.

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But I said it was justttt an observation

bmugford said:

Which part of talking about the forever regs required Rob to promote Name Liquidate or DN Protect? I am confused.

He brought both up. They were both irrelevant to any discussion.

Brad

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People evaluating other registrars here could also be considered to be off topic, but nobody seems to care about that,

I agree that blatant promotions are a little over the line, but if you police what people say too much then there might not be much left to talk about here.

So lets give Epik (Rob) or any other registrar a little leeway to talk about their services and only report them if and when it starts getting out of hand.

IMO

I reported his posts and nothing is happened. they deleted my posts and said they were off topic.
just let him spam.
I am done here and not wasting my time anymore.

The FOREVER Case.

You know, You guys spend ~$10 per domain for a year on PTCs but you never know whether they exist for a year or a day.

We better stay positive.

youaintme said:

The FOREVER Case.

You know, You guys pay ~$10 per a domain for a year

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I guess most domainers on this forum don't even pay $10 per year. I'm currently paying around $8.58 for .com regs & renewals, which is the normal pricing at my registrar, and includes the ICANN fee. For some countries, a VAT component will be added to this.

Frans said:

@NamePros is it allowed to promote your own services/company and hijack a forum post, even if you are a "CEO"? I know it is not allowed to promote our own domains.

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This post and many others have been moved from another thread which was hijacked by @Rob Monster So not everything will make sense to others now. Just letting everybody know.

This is a hoot.

A thoughtful discussion about how to deal with the Verisign price increase was started:

https://www.namepros.com/threads/com-prices-going-up-at-verisign.1242676/

And then Epik engages, and now anything Epik says is promotion.

They forgot to remove this thread from the list of popular threads. Oops.



Frans might need to get on that one. People might find the #1 registrar on the planet.

Rob Monster said:

This is a hoot.

A thoughtful discussion about how to deal with the Verisign price increase was started:

https://www.namepros.com/threads/com-prices-going-up-at-verisign.1242676/

And then Epik engages, and now anything Epik says is promotion.

They forgot to remove this thread from the list of popular threads. Oops.

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Frans might need to get on that one. People might find the #1 registrar on the planet.

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Well the mods moved all your posts for a reason to this new thread called "Epik Promotion" where it should be. So it is not only me who considered it a promotion, in fact @bmugford @Grilled @Future Sensors @johnn @MasterOfMyDomains and the mods considered it a promotion. So good luck @Rob Monster with your promotions/tactics and your company. And it is a popular thread because of us who reported you and pointed you out in the comments making it viral. Not because of Epik itself. You can promote your company and services in the right threads, which is this one. And I bet you are just wanting this thread to go viral too by "bullying" me to get a reaction and more comments just to promote your deals. Good move I will not waste my time and energy anymore to benefit you.

Rob Monster said:

This is a hoot.

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The breaking up of these threads make zero sense. Delete the offtopic/antagonistic/promotional posts, and move on. What we have now is two half ass moderated threads that make little to no sense.

Frans said:

in fact @Grilled and the mods considered it a promotion.

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Yeah, but I was a bit of an asshole about how I went about it. Was late at night, I got sucked in, and threw off-topic mud at multiple parties. After a few hours of reflection, those type of antagonistic posts don't belong on nP, so I self reported a lot of my posts for trolling. Then a lot appear to have been disregarded, or flagged as promotional and moved here, instead of flagged for antagonistic content, and deleted.

I don't mean to disrupt the flow of conversation by reporting my own posts <or commenting on an off-topic comment instead of reporting/waiting>, I just feel some content belongs on nP, and other stuff can be toxic. So whenever I become aware I'm contributing to the toxicity, I try to own my shit, report it, and am willing to accept whatever account ding/restriction it brings.

This thread needs some Friday Fathers Day Weekend Happy Hour love.



$6.99 .COM registrations transfers until further notice. That should help.

Rob Monster said:

Registrar industry insider secret: owners of registrars love their expiry streams. Forever domains eliminate the expiry stream. NameLiquidate lets domains owners keep 91% of their expiry stream proceeds. You can call innovations like Forever domains and NameLiquidate as self-serving, but they actually co-create abundance and are win-win. Not sure what life is like looking for boogeymen, but can't be much fun!

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Forever domain would forever upend the unfair “DropCatch” industry. Go Rob!

Haters love their “rent paying mentality” or fear the end of the status quo.

Samer

Frans said:

Rob saw an opportunity to promote his own company/services to "help us" and himself, which we are not even allowed to do indirectly with our own domain names. Later he started to promote his other service "NameLiquidate" which is off topic. He "attacked" GoDaddy and Brad indirectly too. Wake up.

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your bias is showing.

Stick to # Nodaddy or whomever use.

No need to take digs at companies whom offer bonafide innovative solutions changing game. Post from the heart. Happy early fathers day 2

Samer

Frans said:

NameCheap even lets you know when someone logs into your account and gives you the IP Address, which is cool! Their support team is out of this world, and their prices are fair. And the CEO does not spam NP lol

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Namecheap doesnt let you delete your dn.

You have to “email” them. Only ones do that.

Probably to lock you in auto renew exhorbitant .com renewal NameCheap “not so” cheap. yet another registrar brought up in epik thread— bad 1 imo^! Suck promo, until NC hefty renew. Also reported this one. Stop with all these bad registrars. Worried about epik steal thunder? Keep trying

Samer

Steven McEvoy said:

What would happen if Epik went out of business then there is no forever?

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Most likely you would have 10 years of reg. left on the forever domain. So it would minimize your loss, and if epik lasted in business 10 more years then your domain had 10 more years (20 total) then their would be no reg. renewal loss

Rob Monster said:

#wrongthink judged as #thoughtcrime.

Look at the bright side, your post landed on the #1 thread of the week.

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So did you get the 'warning'? Also, is the 6.99 transfer active?

Thank you for the great pricing you extend to us and for taking the time to come here to post...it means alot for the person in charge to take the time to interact with us/me...others (registrars) should take note.

Mister Funsky said:

So did you get the 'warning'? Also, is the 6.99 transfer active?

Thank you for the great pricing you extend to us and for taking the time to come here to post...it means alot for the person in charge to take the time to interact with us/me...others (registrars) should take note.

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$6.99 .com is active. Happy to empower.

Rob Monster said:

And what if that $399 domain name also came with a $10K warranty protection for lifetime, e.g. safeguarding against loss due to UDRP or domain theft? You know we launched this product with help of Bill Hartzer and some very capable developers: https://dnprotect.com/

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Rob, if the domainers are going to use the Forever Domain Service it most likely would be for the handful of the top domains in their portfolio which they plan on hanging onto on a long term basis and which might be worth a lot more than 10k to them.

Also if the end users use this service it would probably be to protect the domains that their multimillion dollar businesses or ventures are depending on.

This insurance should also protect the clients against neglect, malice, and other unforseen events in addition to UDRP and theft.

And for these reasons whether you want to throw in the insurance for free or not, but you probably need to provide a way for people to be able to insure their domains for a lot more than the 10k that you are suggesting here.

Also this insurance probably needs to be underwritten by a different entity than Epik itself.

IMO

oldtimer said:

Rob, if the domainers are going to use the Forever Domain Service it most likely would be for the handful of the top domains in their portfolio which they plan on hanging onto on a long term basis and which might be worth a lot more than 10k to them.

Also if the end users use this service it would probably be to protect the domains that their multimillion dollar businesses or ventures are depending on.

This insurance should also protect the clients against neglect, malice, and other unforseen events in addition to UDRP and theft.

And for these reasons whether you want to throw in the insurance for free or not, but you probably need to provide a way for people to be able to insure their domains for a lot more than the 10k that you are suggesting here.

Also this insurance probably needs to be underwritten by a different entity than Epik itself.

IMO

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DNProtect is a service of Epik Holdings Inc, which is separate from Epik Inc the registrar. Epik Holdings Inc maintains a variety of insurance policies and has an unblemished record of not losing customer domains.

The DNProtect service covers UDRP defense. Check it out at DNProtect.com.

We have also just added Daniel Prince as full-time general counsel with experience with UDRP filings. We'll scale that department as needed.

A lot of interesting inputs going on in this thread ...refreshing to read, to be honest

Rob Monster said:

DNProtect is a service of Epik Holdings Inc, which is separate from Epik Inc the registrar. Epik Holdings Inc maintains a variety of insurance policies and has an unblemished record of not losing customer domains.

The DNProtect service covers UDRP defense. Check it out at DNProtect.com.

We have also just added Daniel Prince as full-time general counsel with experience with UDRP filings. We'll scale that department as needed.

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That's sounds good to start with,

As far as domain loss goes I had suggested in another thread that the registrars should add a "Survivorship" feature for the domains so that a Survivor could be assigned for the account ahead of times which would automatically become the owner of the account in the event that the original account holder passes away.

This is different than the account executive feature which allows other people to manage the domains for the owner. The assigned Survivor will be inactive and will gain authority over the domains only after the original account holder's death.

I believe that the Survivorship feature should be implemented across the Industry in order to eliminate all the confusion and headache that currently exists when a domainer passes away.

IMO

Rob Monster said:

$6.99 .COM registrations transfers until further notice. That should help

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Registrations offer closed ??

Please continue both offers ....