Epik Promotion

Rob Monster said:

The price increases are going to continue -- 7% per year from Verisign. That is actually still pretty good value for non-trash domains. It may also improve the expiry streams as some registrars use this as a pretext for price increases. At this time, Epik has no plan to raise prices for .COM.

Two things as tactical points:

1. Forever domains at Epik are $399 but we can do bulk deals for less.

2. For bulk transfers we can also do deals, e.g. we have done $6.99 promos and happy hours in the past. If folks want that, we'll see what we can do.

The Versign price increase is not good news. Epik will do its part to try to soften the blow!

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I'll probably be looking to move my top 10 names to Epik by years end. Namecheap doesn't offer much value to domains your aren't currently developing.

johnn said:

Here we go again:
- Advertise and promote your company in a discussion thread
- Bad mouth other company - Godaddy in this case

Unprofessional - When will you stop this bad practice?

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what are you talking about?
He’s not going to promote his competitors!
He’s not even promoting! Just fighting. for us.

More than # NoDaddy (Legal monopoly)

The only one here being unprofessional — is u

Future Sensors said:

Rob isn't helping the community with retail pricing for end-users.

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Grandstanding & virtue signaling.

Some Registrars charge twice that.

always love to pick on Rob, CEO who stands front of his product & I believe —fighting for us. “Where is GD CEO?” Ditto for countless rest. Rob is humble, good values us more than any.
Godaddy isnt helping anyone with their Hostage tax (free if xxx dns (sound familiar?) paid $100+ (autopay) for year of $8 .com gddy “wholesale” “mugford included” free of charge.

Fugazi, and hypocrisy. Rob, model is ingenius. The backlash against him feels more personal Wonder why, could be something with politics?

@Rob Monster!! Believe! momentum shifting!

Samer

Samer said:

Grandstanding & virtue signaling.

Some Registrars charge twice that.

always love to pick on Rob, CEO who stands front of his product & I believe —fighting for us. “Where is GD CEO?” Ditto for countless rest. Rob is humble, good values us more than any.
Godaddy isnt helping anyone with their Hostage tax (free if xxx dns (sound familiar?) paid $100+ (autopay) for year of $8 .com gddy “wholesale” “mugford included” free of charge.

Fugazi, and hypocrisy. Rob, model is ingenius. The backlash against him feels more personal Wonder why, could be something with politics?

@Rob Monster!! Believe! momentum shifting!

Samer

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It was pretty easy this time, just presenting what Rob has said earlier about this.

Have you seen the margins he mentioned for this product?

No need to make this an Epik fan thread again, imo.

I still like you, but Epik is no God to me.

Future Sensors said:

Have you seen the margins he mentioned for this product?

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Just to clarify, NP members pay $8.49 for .COM, all the time, no promo code required. Sometimes we do promos, e.g. there is discussion of $6.99 .com registration and transfers.

And if it can be free, we do our best to make it free. As a result, the value for money is unmatched. More details here: http://epik.com/free

Some registrars are going to use the price increase to milk the cow. Some have already started. Epik intends to remain the pro domainer's best friend. It is a core strategy. That was the point.

Rob Monster said:

Just to clarify, NP members pay $8.49 for .COM, all the time, no promo code required. Sometimes we do promos, e.g. there is discussion of $6.99 .com registration and transfers.

And if it can be free, we do our best to make it free. As a result, the value for money is unmatched. More details here: http://epik.com/free

Some registrars are going to use the price increase to milk the cow. Some have already started. Epik intends to remain the pro domainer's best friend. It is a core strategy. That was the point.

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Pretty sure he was referring to the margins on the forever stuff...aka $399 upfront, not standard domain renewals.

Anyone can renew their own .COM for (10) years right now for say $90. So you are paying an extra $300+ for the promise that Epik will renew the domain after that point, a decade from now.

The financial interest for Epik is obvious.

How many decades will it take for that to make financial sense to the buyer?

Brad

Rob Monster said:

Here is a real scenario from this week. A widow calls about her suddenly deceased husband's domain portfolio. The widow had no foggy idea which domains to keep, had already lost one valuable domain, and had literally no money with which to fund renewals. This scenario has been happening often enough before COVID. My forecast is that it will happen more often post-COVID. Forever domains fix that. For the high value domains, it is an easy choice. For the guy who wants to play Russian roulette every year with domains worth more than $10K, they can do so but just make sure the spouse knows the game plan.

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I totally agree with this, and I highly commend Epik for the service.
First of all, it is very true that is isn't for everyone, specially buy and sell domainers, it might not make sense at all, but for developers and corporate owned domain names and brands, this is very useful.

I wish there we're a forever web hosting like this too, even if it is ridiculously expensive, at least the assurance is there.

You might respond to me for saying the word "assurance", it might be true the company could be handed over someday, but the obligation should be passed as part of the company agreement on the client, otherwise, it's their liability, and for me that's enough to call it assurance.

I also believe we are still on topic, it really is a provided available solution regards to the continuous rise in renewal, but again, not applicable to everyone specially for buy and sell domains. I like the discussion and reasoning of each, but hate to says some words got personal.

lambo.com said:

With dotcom prices starting to head up, are you operating a large portfolio? What steps will you take?

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My portfolio is too large...lots of okay, many good and quite a few really good names...only a handful I would call great.

Those in the great category, along with those intended for my personal/professional use, will be renewed for a few years taking advantage of the excellent pre-fund pricing at Epik.

I am looking forward to us reaching the 100 mark so Rob will extend a transfer deal...I've got dozens of names at other registrars I am ready to move.

Grilled said:

I'm not so sure how much I trust the promises of businesses (Dynadot included) who don't have a physical location, and opt to use a UPS storefront/mailbox instead.

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WOW! Thanks @Grilled now I don't trust Epik or Dynadot at all anymore.

Frans said:

I don't trust Epik or Dynadot at all anymore.

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Dynadot Offices:
San Mateo (hq)
Toronto
Beijing
Zhengzhou



Regarding Offices - It's 21st century, remote.


Regards

Lox said:

Dynadot Offices:
San Mateo (hq)
Toronto
Beijing
Zhengzhou

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Regarding Offices - It's 21st century, remote.

Regards

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Thanks @Lox! Then I only don't trust Epik anymore... if indeed they do not have a physical address/location and use a UPS storefront/mailbox. That's "epically" ironic.

Frans said:

WOW! Thanks @Grilled now I don't trust Epik or Dynadot at all anymore.

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Sorry, that wasn't my intent.

Are you now saying you now trust GoDaddy as your asset holder over than Epik and Dynadot?

Until proven otherwise (eg GD cleans up the auction renewal unfairness and stops acting like its too big to care), or until a GD CEO comes to namePros, like Paul Han or @Rob Monster, I trust Epik/Dynadot any day of the week over GoDaddy, when it comes to customer service, safeguarding, and security.

If GoDaddy doesn't change their ways soon, they're quickly on their way to becoming the next NetSol. An outdated dinosaur that cares more about profits, and less about accessible quality customer service, security, or innovation. #AmansLegacy

Grilled said:

Are you now saying you now trust GoDaddy as your asset holder over than Epik and Dynadot?

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I don't trust any of them, after the Brent Oxley thingy... NameCheap is my preferred right now, until proven otherwise too... I moved most of my GD domains after that.

bmugford said:

Pretty sure he was referring to the margins on the forever stuff...aka $399 upfront, not standard domain renewals.

Anyone can renew their own .COM for (10) years right now for say $90. So you are paying an extra $300+ for the promise that Epik will renew the domain after that point, a decade from now.

The financial interest for Epik is obvious.

How many decades will it take for that to make financial sense to the buyer?

Brad

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And what if that $399 domain name also came with a $10K warranty protection for lifetime, e.g. safeguarding against loss due to UDRP or domain theft? You know we launched this product with help of Bill Hartzer and some very capable developers: https://dnprotect.com/

Grilled said:

That situation also turned me on to NameCheap. + @tamar seems like a responsive rockstar!

Any idea how NameCheap plans to handle the verisign price increase?

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NameCheap even lets you know when someone logs into your account and gives you the IP Address, which is cool! Their support team is out of this world, and their prices are fair. And the CEO does not spam NP lol

Frans said:

Thanks @Lox! Then I only don't trust Epik anymore...

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Trust or $ insurance is not the issue w Epik, the semi-PRs and a few of "rebellion" moves that framed the Epik company was / is an ongoing issue, but that can be changed anytime - tomorrow.

Regards

Lox said:

a few of "rebellion" moves that framed the Epik - company was / is an ongoing issue

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Please enlighten us about that... who, what and how/where?

Rob Monster said:

And what if that $399 domain name also came with a $10K warranty protection for lifetime, e.g. safeguarding against loss due to UDRP or domain theft? You know we launched this product with help of Bill Hartzer and some very capable developers: https://dnprotect.com/

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You need to quit the blatant self-promotional spam. This is irrelevant to the subject of this thread, as was Name Liquidate.

Brad

bmugford said:

You need to quit the blatant self-promotional spam. This is irrelevant to the subject of this thread.
As was Name Liquidate.

Brad

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If nobody @NamePros stops him, why would he? Free advertisement...

Frans said:

NameCheap even lets you know when someone logs into your account and gives you the IP Address, which is cool! Their support team is out of this world, and their prices are fair. And the CEO does not spam NP lol

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Wow!! That's huge!

While reverse engineering the night.com hack, that info would have been huge to have accessible. Meanwhile, GoDaddy abuse reporting page <https://www.godaddy.com/help/reporting-abuse-27154> has no option to report a compromised account, besides hoping their generic [email protected] email works. And even then, as I've yet to hear of (not saying it hasn't happened) a GoDaddy customer receiving IP logs of logins, after reporting an account breach without subpoena/court order. I hope I'm wrong here, but if the Oxley situation taught us nothing, GoDaddy is too big to be erroneously be held liable, and they require a subpoena/court order for just about anything, even if not legally required.

Frans said:

Their support team is out of this world, and their prices are fair.

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I hate to say I base my registrars on whether or not I can reach a namePros representative should anything go wrong, but it's where I'm most comfortable. I had assumed since namecheap rep @tamar doesn't chime in as much as other registrar reps that namecheap wasn't as reachable on nP as other registrars, nonetheless, when I sent her a DM, she responded within 4 minutes. Likely an anomaly, and was directed to the proper department, I just felt it necessary to share, that nameCheap does have a nP rep who is responsive.

Thus, I foresee myself following the Oxley playbook and moving many domains to NameCheap this year.

Frans said:

And the CEO does not spam NP lol

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We all have our own definition of spam. @Rob Monster has his. Hawaiians have theirs. And I have mine.

I'm OK with @Rob Monster nP spam, it's nowhere near what it used to be. Hawaiian canned spam, sure, whatever floats your boat. But I draw the line at Epik hiring an attack dog as Epik senior VP of Qommunications, just to leverage/manipulate/submerge the Epik client base with unsolicited PSYOP like political charged messaging. #KeepSnarkyOnALease #FireDavis #Rehire@Slanted

Frans said:

If nobody @NamePros stops him, why would he? Free advertisement...

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I agree.

He has had multiple posts in the past removed and moved for the same self-promotional reasons.

He just can't seem to help himself.

Every thread seems to turn into an advertisement for Epik, no matter how irrelevant to the actual discussion.

Brad

bmugford said:

You need to quit the blatant self-promotional spam. This is irrelevant to the subject of this thread

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Frans said:

If nobody @NamePros stops him, why would he? Free advertisement...

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nP also largely relies on community moderation. Did either of you report @Rob Monster 's "And what if that $399 domain name" post? Because if not, we're equally to blame.

I reported his last post here as that was clearly off topic, hypothetical, and promotional.

Grilled said:

nP also largely relies on community moderation. Did either of you report @Rob Monster 's "And what if that $399 domain name" post? I did.

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I will. You have to draw the line somewhere.

While I consider the forever registration idea stupid and unsustainable for a number of reasons that I already outlined, it at least has a peripheral relationship to .COM renewals.

The stuff with Name Liquidate was bad enough. This is just self-promotional. It is not relevant to the discussion.

Brad

May I suggest everyone go back to the third post in this thread (which was Rob's first post) and re-read it.

It was entirely on topic and offered a brief explanation (future rises and percentage) and multiple solutions to the problem of .com prices going up. It only went crazy when people jumped on him and went crazy with their opinions of how bad they think one of the solutions is. Disagree or not, it should have been left alone and other solutions/experiences provided by others.

Just my observation.

robs01 said:

May I suggest everyone go back to the third post in this thread (which was Rob's first post) and re-read it.

It was entirely on topic and offered a brief explanation (future rises and percentage) and multiple solutions to the problem of .com prices going up. It only went crazy when people jumped on him and went crazy with their opinions of how bad they think one of the solutions is. Disagree or not, it should have been left alone and other solutions/experiences provided by others.

Just my observation.

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Nope. If Rob wants to post something in the discussion, others are allowed to share their thoughts and opinions on it. The discussion forum is not here for people to just push products or services without questions, comments, thoughts, opinions, etc.

Brad