The USA Political Thread

lennco · Jul 20, 2012

Here you can spout your USA political views.

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sonatime · Jun 15, 2021

Domainace said:
This goes back to well before World War 2. Marxist professors came to the US - many from Germany. Some of the cleverer ones realized that the working class revolution wasn't going to happen in the US. The status quo had too many attractions, and the working class was pretty happy.

So they found other ways to divide the populace - by focusing on race, gender and sexuality. And, to challenge the status quo, they offered free sex and drugs (an easy sell anywhere). Sex does indeed sell.

They have been working for almost 100 years now to destroy the glue that holds society together, and are 95% of the way there. It can't be undone at this point. American is completely screwed. And there is no guarantee that they won't try to take everyone else down with them - probably through war.

Unfortunately I agree. I think leftist ideology could be successfully paused if funding for this ideology and programs would stop and everyone had to "eat" those artificially subsidized results. But that doesn't fit the trend of the never ending agenda of further controlling the populace.

Domainace · Jun 15, 2021

https://www.foxnews.com/us/north-korean-defector-ivy-league-nuts

Read the comments as well. The US is much farther gone than even Russia or China in many ways.

GILSAN · Jun 15, 2021

sonatime said:
This documentary is from 2007 ,and relevant today. Explores censorship and identity politics on campus where most professors are leftist/marxist and anti-American. While claiming promoting critical thinking, higher education is very much about indoctrination, creating limitations and boundaries on what students are allowed to think.

Like I've been saying for years and now even more, as the Liberals become much more radical and insupportable... divide the country in two.... Red States and Blue States

mr-x · Jun 15, 2021

Domainace said:
People keep comparing this to 3rd wold countries - but that's not fair. Even the worst parts of 3rd world countries are not this bad. People are poor, but they don't behave like wild dogs in the street.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1382347335397642240

Visit India. The poverty is crushing and drives bad behavior / exploitation.

mr-x · Jun 15, 2021

.X. said:
as soon as people decide to fight back .. that is as soon as it will all end .. these people can dish a lot .. but take very little as I have seen … it’s a matter of when people to want to end all this ..

Parents / people are fighting back.

Watch the media / liberal narrative on crt change from it's anti-racist to criticism is a unwarranted over reaction by scared white people.

Same bullshit with antifa, defund the police, sexualization of children...

mr-x · Jun 15, 2021

Namersen said:
Dinesh D'Souza: Leftists are now trying to portray "whiteness" as a plague--an incurable ailment. The violence of their rhetoric suggests that they are issuing nothing less than an invitation to genocide.

alternate link on rumble

D'Souza is correct.. we are fast approaching the left targeting groups for physical violence based on race, class - imo.

We just watched the President demean over 70 million Americans yesterday during a speech at NATO hq.

mr-x · Jun 15, 2021

.X. · Jun 15, 2021

mr-x said:
Parents / people are fighting back.

Watch the media / liberal narrative on crt change from it's anti-racist to criticism is a unwarranted over reaction by scared white people.

Same bullshit with antifa, defund the police, sexualization of children...

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people will have to fully commit .. in order to save the USA … not part time …not sending letters to politicians… not standing in front of school boards .. as we see .. these methods do not work … we are losing a piece of the USA every day now … if this pace continues .. there will become a point of no return most likely in 2021 to quarter 2 of 2022 …

everything is at stake now … they have captured the inner heart of the country .. they are executing their narrative every day now .. our time is short now ….

.X. · Jun 15, 2021

mr-x said:
D'Souza is correct.. we are fast approaching the left targeting groups for physical violence based on race, class - imo.

We just watched the President demean over 70 million Americans yesterday during a speech at NATO hq.

we are allowing the escalation …. Which is history for the country within itself ..we have not contained one thing … it’s spreading like wild fire right now .. we can send out grievances to whom ever is our Marxist / Socialist leader coming up … we will have no one to blame but ourselves once all is said and done

mr-x · Jun 15, 2021

Joe Biden in 1987: ‘We (Delawareans) Were on the South’s Side in the Civil War’

Joe Biden in 2012: ‘They’re ( Repubilcans ) going to put y’all back in chains’!!!

Joe Biden in 2021: Unveils Strategy To Combat ‘Domestic Terrorism,’ Labels White Supremacy As ‘Lethal’ Threat.

Hunter Biden: My nigga!

mr-x · Jun 15, 2021

.X. · Jun 15, 2021

Mean while in Plandemic news … perhaps another effort of Plandemic virus is on the table for another possible US shut down .. The Delta variant is being more and more publicized by MSM now … generally to try and force un vaccinated people to take a Plandemic shot … that appears to be their target … however there is no way of them knowing if the current vaccines work for the Delta variant .. they will pretend they do know … more lies and deceptions..

Namersen · Jun 15, 2021

Pink Floyd Co-Founder Roger Waters to Mark Zuckerberg's Request to Use His Music [RedState]:

f*** you! No f***ing way!

“It’s a request for the rights to use my song, ‘Another Brick in the Wall (Part 2),’ in the making of a film to promote Instagram.”

After his revelation drew laughter from the crowd, Waters went on: “So it’s a missive from Mark Zuckerberg to me… with an offer of a huge, huge amount of money and the answer is, ‘f*** you! No f***ing way!

https://twitter.com/x/status/1404326042777554947

@IWasCuredOK

.. part of his rant:

There’s an old saying that goes something like “politics makes for strange bedfellows,” which applies here. While conservatives and Waters don’t have much of anything in common politically, one thing they can agree on is that the stranglehold Zuckerberg has on the flow of information globally is dangerous.

rh2000 · Jun 15, 2021

.X. said:
Mean while in Plandemic news … perhaps another effort of Plandemic virus is on the table for another possible US shut down .. The Delta variant is being more and more publicized by MSM now … generally to try and force un vaccinated people to take a Plandemic shot … that appears to be their target … however there is no way of them knowing if the current vaccines work for the Delta variant .. they will pretend they do know … more lies and deceptions..

They will not stop with this hoax until everybody gets that shot. They will give you anything from money, beer, pizza, lottery tickets, and more to get that shot.

.X. · Jun 15, 2021

rh2000 said:
They will not stop with this hoax until everybody gets that shot. They will give you anything from money, beer, pizza, lottery tickets, and more to get that shot.

i do agree 1000%. … however .. aside from them killing me … I will never be getting that shot …. But you are exactly right .. their proceeding forward is all about the vaccine

I may be wrong … but I do not think they will get 70% of the US to take that vaccine .. however .. if they are able to get 70% to take it voluntarily… there is no doubt in my mind that they will come for the 30% that didn’t take it .. at that point it won’t upset the masses that forced inoculation would happen .. I also believe that 70% goal by them is to know they can fully move forward and introduce a one world government and new world order .. and at that 70% point .. they know their will be very little resistance ..

Cannuck · Jun 15, 2021

Namersen said:
Pink Floyd Co-Founder Roger Waters to Mark Zuckerberg's Request to Use His Music [RedState]:

f*** you! No f***ing way!

Interesting, especially considering he's a lefty. Thanks for that, I'm a huge fan...he's a rock star that cares.

Waters’ political activism, at least the bits of it that are publicized, seems to revolve around the environment and Israel. His position on both these issues would make the conservative right in America cringe, which is why he would easily be classified as liberal. He has said of American politics:

"I watch the workings of politics [in the US] and particularly the Republican Party. They work with the axiom that you can tell as many lies as you want – and often the bigger the better – and eventually they will believed."

Regarding the environment, Waters has made his case at his live concerts time and again. He said during the Bush administration–who refused to sign the Kyoto protocol, which would have committed the U.S. to reducing greenhouse emmissions over a period of time:

"This problem will not be solved until we the electorates make it quite clear to candidates running for office that we will not vote for them unless they have a clear policy on the environment and global warming in particular. And also we will not vote for them if they have a track record like this current administration does."

https://hollowverse.com/roger-waters/

.X. · Jun 15, 2021

Cannuck said:
Interesting, especially considering he's a lefty. Thanks for that, I'm a huge fan...he's a rock star that cares.

Waters’ political activism, at least the bits of it that are publicized, seems to revolve around the environment and Israel. His position on both these issues would make the conservative right in America cringe, which is why he would easily be classified as liberal. He has said of American politics:

"I watch the workings of politics [in the US] and particularly the Republican Party. They work with the axiom that you can tell as many lies as you want – and often the bigger the better – and eventually they will believed."

Regarding the environment, Waters has made his case at his live concerts time and again. He said during the Bush administration–who refused to sign the Kyoto protocol, which would have committed the U.S. to reducing greenhouse emmissions over a period of time:

"This problem will not be solved until we the electorates make it quite clear to candidates running for office that we will not vote for them unless they have a clear policy on the environment and global warming in particular. And also we will not vote for them if they have a track record like this current administration does."

https://hollowverse.com/roger-waters/

…. Fuckerberg can’t roll with Pink Floyd … Pink Floyd will put one of his eyes out with a laser blast

Domainace · Jun 15, 2021

mr-x said:
Visit India. The poverty is crushing and drives bad behavior / exploitation.

I have. And I was in Bangladesh just before all this Covid hit. And we went to the poorest areas. I didn't see any neighborhood filled with drug addicts and crazies attacking each other in the street. Even in the worst areas, there is some semblance of order and humanity left. Nor do I see the general level of hostility you see in the US. Everybody is angry. (Aside from that, India and most of Asia is transforming and nothing like it was even 20 years ago.)

But yeah, poverty drives bad behavior and bad behavior drives more poverty.

My point was that living among the homeless in Venice, CA seems worse than living in most poor areas of the world.

Materially, the LA homeless are wealthy compared to many people in the world. They are surrounded by wealth. If the drop in the street, they will wake up in a modern hospital being treated by doctors. Many of the homeless collect enough in government benefits to make them comfortably middle class in some countries. Except nobody would tolerate their behavior.

They are poor spiritually. And the people who see this everyday and ride their bikes through it are also suffering. This should not be tolerated - there's no reason for it in a country with the resources the US has. It's not the loss of money - like I said, most Venice homeless have plenty compared to much of the world - it's the total loss of humanity and decency, all the things that make us human.

Namersen · Jun 15, 2021

[RedState 1] After defector [chinese virologist Dr. Yan Li-Meng] provided evidence that the Chinese Military Orchestrated the Creation of COVID-19 and Lab Leak, magically, Monday morning the CCP propaganda outlet New York Times wrote about an “unscheduled conversation” with Dr. Shi Zhengli (the bat woman), whom they caught up with on her personal mobile phone [RedState 2].
Based on the contents of the article, here’s what the Chinese Communist Party and the People’s Liberation Army want you to believe about Dr. Shi, her research, the Wuhan lab, and the coronavirus pandemic:

Dr. Shi’s lab has never conducted gain-of-function experiments

Dr. Shi isn’t a member of the Chinese Communist Party

Despite reports, three WIV employees weren’t sick with coronavirus/flu-type symptoms and hospitalized in the fall of 2019

Both Dr. Shi and the Chinese government have been fully transparent and provided all data requested of them

There were no sources of the new coronavirus before the pandemic erupted in the Wuhan lab

The RaTG13 virus, which is 96.2% identical to SARS-CoV-2, couldn’t possibly have been the foundation for SARS-CoV-2

Miners who got sick or died after working in the same mine where Dr. Shi collected the RaTG13 virus did not have bat SARS-like coronaviruses in their blood samples

Any assertions that the Chinese government or Dr. Shi haven’t been fully open and honest or that they had anything to do with creating or disseminating SARS-CoV-2 are speculative and “rooted in utter distrust”

(laughable)

By changing the definition, Dr. Shi told the Times that: “…[H]er experiments differed from gain-of-function work because she did not set out to make a virus more dangerous, but to understand how it might jump across species.”

So, jumping across species doesn’t make it more dangerous? Got it.

Or, as Chinese President Xi Jinping said in a speech to his scientists in 2020, we must also remember that “Science has no borders, but scientists have a motherland.”

[RedState 3] Former CDC Director Explains Lab-Leak Theory With Logic and Warns the WHO Is a Beijing Propaganda Arm

“When I said before that I didn’t think it was biologically plausible that COVID-19 went from a bat to some unknown animal into man and now had become one of the most infectious viruses, that’s not consistent with how other coronaviruses have come into the human species. And, it does suggest that there’s an alternative hypothesis that it went from a bat virus, got into a laboratory, where in the laboratory, it was taught, educated, it evolved, so that it became a virus that could efficiently transmit human to human.”

Redfield also gave a warning about the WHO’s unceasing loyalty to China, holding up the WHO’s investigation into the lab leak theory in China being “extremely unlikely” as evidence that it’s now a propaganda arm:

“Clearly, they were incapable of compelling China to adhere to the treaty agreements that they have on global health, because they didn’t do that. Clearly, they allowed China to define the group of scientists that could come and investigate. That’s not consistent with their role.”

Namersen · Jun 15, 2021

Cannuck said:
Interesting, especially considering he's a lefty.

True liberals are against fascism, when you define it as the marriage between corporation and state, and against the abuse of power by lying (as in google's "do no evil") monopolies, unelected bureaucrats and criminal cartels, so to me his answer is more refreshing rather than interesting.

Cannuck said:
Regarding the environment, Waters has made his case at his live concerts time and again. He said during the Bush administration–who refused to sign the Kyoto protocol, which would have committed the U.S. to reducing greenhouse emmissions [...]

Roger Waters is a brilliant poet, I can see how the incessant propaganda thrown at him by the global warming cultists went directly to his heart. It's not too late for him to come to the realization that plants are a carbon based form of life, and their carbon uptake is exclusively from CO2, mainly from air, and that reducing it in the atmosphere directly reduces vegetation growth and contributes to desertification in lands dear to his causes.

.X. · Jun 15, 2021

Namersen said:
[RedState 1] After defector [chinese virologist Dr. Yan Li-Meng] provided evidence that the Chinese Military Orchestrated the Creation of COVID-19 and Lab Leak, magically, Monday morning the CCP propaganda outlet New York Times wrote about an “unscheduled conversation” with Dr. Shi Zhengli (the bat woman), whom they caught up with on her personal mobile phone [RedState 2].
Based on the contents of the article, here’s what the Chinese Communist Party and the People’s Liberation Army want you to believe about Dr. Shi, her research, the Wuhan lab, and the coronavirus pandemic:

(laughable)

By changing the definition, Dr. Shi told the Times that: “…[H]er experiments differed from gain-of-function work because she did not set out to make a virus more dangerous, but to understand how it might jump across species.”

So, jumping across species doesn’t make it more dangerous? Got it.

[RedState 3] Former CDC Director Explains Lab-Leak Theory With Logic and Warns the WHO Is a Beijing Propaganda Arm

Redfield also gave a warning about the WHO’s unceasing loyalty to China, holding up the WHO’s investigation into the lab leak theory in China being “extremely unlikely” as evidence that it’s now a propaganda arm:

… sorry .. I have to laugh because the bitch was an intricate part of the covid 19 … she was the very one who went to North Carolina University .. and returned to China with variants of the SARS 2 virus ..

Then one has to think … why did she come to the US and the university to get SARS 2 virus .. SARS 2 did start in China

Domainace · Jun 15, 2021

Namersen said:
Roger Waters is a brilliant poet

He also has a long history of saying deeply anti-semitic things - goes well beyond disagreement with Israel. People can be right about some things and very wrong about others.

And personally, I never cared for anything Pink Floyd did after Syd Barrett. Their stuff became too plodding, and predictably political. But he is right about Assange and Zuckerberg.

Domainace · Jun 15, 2021

Cannuck said:
Interesting, especially considering he's a lefty.

The Assange issue should be a concern to everyone. The same with Zuck. Left and right can both agree. The problem is that too many of the "left" are simply fascists; happy with Zuckerberg as long as he bans conservative voices, and happy with Assange until he exposed Hillary.

Even their best boy John Stewart is on probation after his Wuhan rant the other day.

.X. · Jun 15, 2021

Domainace said:
I have. And I was in Bangladesh just before all this Covid hit. And we went to the poorest areas. I didn't see any neighborhood filled with drug addicts and crazies attacking each other in the street. Even in the worst areas, there is some semblance of order and humanity left. Nor do I see the general level of hostility you see in the US. Everybody is angry. (Aside from that, India and most of Asia is transforming and nothing like it was even 20 years ago.)

But yeah, poverty drives bad behavior and bad behavior drives more poverty.

My point was that living among the homeless in Venice, CA seems worse than living in most poor areas of the world.

Materially, the LA homeless are wealthy compared to many people in the world. They are surrounded by wealth. If the drop in the street, they will wake up in a modern hospital being treated by doctors. Many of the homeless collect enough in government benefits to make them comfortably middle class in some countries. Except nobody would tolerate their behavior.

They are poor spiritually. And the people who see this everyday and ride their bikes through it are also suffering. This should not be tolerated - there's no reason for it in a country with the resources the US has. It's not the loss of money - like I said, most Venice homeless have plenty compared to much of the world - it's the total loss of humanity and decency, all the things that make us human.

I agree .. although trying to figure out the root of problem is like finding a needle in a hay stack … could it be the racial diversity that the US has ??? I guess it could be .. but all other races aside from the 13% can live together and have little problem co existing… could it be due to the amount of corruption that is allowed ??? That is a good possibility as well …

there are many different variables that could be why America’s society can not unite .. nor have compassion for the homeless … mentally ill ..

Domainace · Jun 15, 2021

.X. said:
I agree .. although trying to figure out the root of problem is like finding a needle in a hay stack … could it be the racial diversity that the US has ??? I guess it could be .. but all other races aside from the 13% can live together and have little problem co existing… could it be due to the amount of corruption that is allowed ??? That is a good possibility as well …

there are many different variables that could be why America’s society can not unite .. nor have compassion for the homeless … mentally ill ..

I don't think racial diversity has much to do with it. I really do think it's the calculated destruction of social mores from the top down over several decades. Of course, corruption. But every country in the world has corruption. It starts at the top and trickles down. People get cynical and think they may as well get their cut of the action. Pretty soon you're paying off police every day just to ride your motorbike to work.

It's not just lack of money that causes corruption either - I think that also goes to the loss of social mores/religion/spirituality whatever holds a society together.

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