question Good 5 letter domains are looking.....good

Charybdis said:

And how much do you pay for such quality 5L domain names (wholesale rate)? I know it depends on the name, but approximately.

And then what is your target end user price?

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Good ones start in the low xxx range up to low x,xxx

Check out Namebio for pricing - type in CVCVC or VCVCV into the pattern box and select .com and then sort the results by highest sold.....will help show some of the end user sales

I agree that people should not give away their quality 5letter for peanuts, but quality is often a bit of a subjective feeling and most people think that their names are better than they really are - I have approx. 50 5letter and has over the years sold about 10 most via brandable sites such as BB, BP and SquadHelp. I do not own tip top quality but some of them I think are decent - Heysa - Ikito - Luxby - Jomle - Riwis - Dexzo - Jobxo - Parjo - Teliv - Seofo - Vrodo - Mouty - Sewos - Hitsi. Some of them I have sold: Joyzo - HipIQ - BobUp - Vipzi - Faact - Huxle

And are keyword-based 5L domains better than completely random 5L names?

I mean those 5L names which contain an actual dictionary word, or a slight variation of a dictionary word, so that the domain fits into a defined industry.

There are 5L domains as well which are random, not based on any word, but they are still pronounceable and they sound good.

Charybdis said:

And are keyword-based 5L domains better than completely random 5L names?

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I'm not sure what's best, but I've had good success with names that either contain a real word or are a good play on a word like some of the ones I mentioned above

Am currently not a fan of 5L But I own a few with good pattern such as: resellers offers are welcome though

BuzIQ.com
OVEBO.COM
KUTIC.COM
RIMOY.COM
ZINOY.COM

Here are mine in dot com:

Jecil - Philippine girls name meaning "Gift of God"
Jabif - surname
Lemof -
Qussy - qussy
Rijis -

I have only 1 cvcvc i,e. Mugik dot com (may be spelt as music)

bruhne said:

Here are mine in dot com:

Jecil - Philippine girls name meaning "Gift of God"
Jabif - surname
Lemof -
Qussy - qussy
Rijis -

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Funny, I have Qusse...

And Ezzom, Ioita and a few.

Side note I only sold one 5L for 1k (I/O/I/L/A) - an I still have a few IO's of this kind.

The problem is this. Long-term they are a good investment. But don't expect a fast sale. There are 11 million of combinations, so it's largely a hit and miss. I had a lot of these and only ever sold one, that got to another investor - no end user inquiry whatsoever.

This means - It works only for just a few names, or for an investor with large pockets who will sit on them for many years to come. Today, I doubt you can break even with such a portfolio, unless you sell a particular name for high margin. But the others will still be sitting long there.

So it's a long-term thing and not everyone has the cash to sustain that long-term.

Edit: 11M combinations for 5L is an extremely high number, vs 150M .coms registered total with all lengths, words, combinations etc.

I've also calculated a while ago that great .coms to invest in 2-words are less than 1M, actually about 100K (great ones) to 500K (so-so ones that you can sit on for quite long). IF you compare this with the 11M combinations, it's still a very large number to pick a domain from.

I know this will sound negative. I'm saying it anyhow in hopes of other reconsidering regging the posted domains.

Firstly this is now another discussion thread turned into a show and tell.

My opinion based on few years selling xxxxx worth of 5L . None posted in this thread ( 99%+ ) have any logical value. But some might sell.

Raise your research , raise your choices. IMHO

ecomslice said:

I know this will sound negative. I'm saying it anyhow in hopes of other reconsidering regging the posted domains.

Firstly this is now another discussion thread turned into a show and tell.

My opinion based on few years selling xxxxx worth of 5L . None posted in this thread ( 99%+ ) have any logical value. But some might sell.

Raise your research , raise your choices. IMHO

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Why negative? I don't see anything negative here. But perhaps, a chance to learn something new.

Edit: Negative but proper criticism = positive learning factor.

twiki said:

I've also calculated a while ago that great .coms to invest in 2-words are less than 1M, actually about 100K (great ones) to 500K (so-so ones that you can sit on for quite long). IF you compare this with the 11M combinations, it's still a very large number to pick a domain from.

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Your calculation is flawed. The English alphabet consists of 26 letters, so 26^5 = 11881376 combinations, yes.

But only a fraction of them will be a good 5L domain, same case with 2-word domains.

Charybdis said:

Your calculation is flawed. The English alphabet consists of 26 letters, so 26^5 = 11881376 combinations, yes.

But only a fraction of them will be a good 5L domain, same case with 2-word domains.

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My calculation is not flawed. There's a lot of AI an tech behind it.

Of course, it depends where you set your thresholds. Mine are not too lax.

Edit: You might have misread - I was talking about 2-word .coms worth investing in (significantly under 1M)

twiki said:

My calculation is not flawed. There's a lot of AI an tech behind it.

Of course, it depends where you set your thresholds. Mine are not too lax.

Edit: You might have misread - I was talking about 2-word .coms worth investing in (significantly under 1M)

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I mean you compared the number of good 2-word domains to all the available 5L domains, you should compare the number of good 2-word domains to the number of good 5L domains.

Charybdis said:

I mean you compared the number of good 2-word domains to all the available 5L domains, you should compare the number of good 2-word domains to the number of good 5L domains.

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No, in that case we would need to compare all 2-word com domains to all 5L domains. Anyway, you don't appear to get it (edit: get my view) but it probably doesn't matter that much. What I was saying is that to me at least it looks like an extremely large number of potential domains of the 5L type. Not 11M (cause not every domain is good ) but still a very large number.

If you divide it by 30 (say just 1 in 30 5L is good) it's still 366K, far larger number than my estimated .com valuable pool. It almost matches the entire other range of .com valuables.

Edit: At say a dictionary of 30K English base words, that's 900M potential 2-word, just mentioning for a fact here. A very small fraction is however worth investing in.

twiki said:

No, in that case we would need to compare all 2-word com domains to all 5L domains. Anyway, you don't appear to get it (edit: get my view) but it probably doesn't matter that much. What I was saying is that to me at least it looks like an extremely large number of potential domains of the 5L type. Not 11M (cause not every domain is good ) but still a very large number.

If you divide it by 30 (say just 1 in 30 5L is good) it's still 366K, far larger number than my estimated .com valuable pool. It almost matches the entire other range of .com valuables.

Edit: At say a dictionary of 30K English base words, that's 900M potential 2-word, just mentioning for a fact here. A very small fraction is however worth investing on.

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Ok I get your point now, but still if you manage to get good 5L domains, then you might achieve a better sell through rate with them, same case with 2-word .com domains.

And they compete with each other, a buyer might choose a 5L domain over a 2-word domain, and vice versa.

Charybdis said:

Ok I get your point now, but still if you manage to get good 5L domains, then you might achieve a better sell through rate with them, same case with 2-word .com domains.

And they compete with each other, a buyer might choose a 5L domain over a 2-word domain, and vice versa.

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Yep, indeed you got my point. Agreed.

I have one that I almost let drop since I've been away from the game for awhile.
WRHSE (com). I'm not too big on it. It was a handy if I remember right. Acronym for Warehouse. P.S. I didn't do it. I'm innocent.

johnn said:

Because people with quality names don't post the names for sale here as don't get quality price.

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Say what!???

My only 5L:

.com

FYI - in case your weren't aware there is a LLLLL showcase thread on Namepros

https://www.namepros.com/threads/showcase-your-5-letters-com-domains.1127124

It's been around since 2019........

twiki said:

Funny, I have Qusse...

And Ezzom, Ioita and a few.

Side note I only sold one 5L for 1k (I/O/I/L/A) - an I still have a few IO's of this kind.

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This means - It works only for just a few names, or for an investor with large pockets who will sit on them for many years to come. Today, I doubt you can break even with such a portfolio, unless you sell a particular name for high margin. But the others will still be sitting long there.

So it's a long-term thing and not everyone has the cash to sustain that long-term.

Edit: 11M combinations for 5L is an extremely high number, vs 150M .coms registered total with all lengths, words, combinations etc.

I've also calculated a while ago that great .coms to invest in 2-words are less than 1M, actually about 100K (great ones) to 500K (so-so ones that you can sit on for quite long). IF you compare this with the 11M combinations, it's still a very large number to pick a domain from.

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twiki said:

Funny, I have Qusse...

And Ezzom, Ioita and a few.

Side note I only sold one 5L for 1k (I/O/I/L/A) - an I still have a few IO's of this kind.

The problem is this. Long-term they are a good investment. But don't expect a fast sale. There are 11 million of combinations, so it's largely a hit and miss. I had a lot of these and only ever sold one, that got to another investor - no end user inquiry whatsoever.

This means - It works only for just a few names, or for an investor with large pockets who will sit on them for many years to come. Today, I doubt you can break even with such a portfolio, unless you sell a particular name for high margin. But the others will still be sitting long there.

So it's a long-term thing and not everyone has the cash to sustain that long-term.

Edit: 11M combinations for 5L is an extremely high number, vs 150M .coms registered total with all lengths, words, combinations etc.

I've also calculated a while ago that great .coms to invest in 2-words are less than 1M, actually about 100K (great ones) to 500K (so-so ones that you can sit on for quite long). IF you compare this with the 11M combinations, it's still a very large number to pick a domain from.

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I've sold one 5l dot com for $100 a few years ago. I sold another for around $10. Other than that, I'm not even sure if I've even had any inquiries or interest. I'm going to continue laying low in the 5l dot com space.

And excellent information about the two-word dot com combinations. I always appreciate your research, measures, metrics, findings, stats, etc. Good quality information.

some of my 5L .com names are here …

adliz.com
adsov.com
jpleo.com
usleo.com
ukleo.com
ajsol.com
anzuf.com
booex.com
bsdom.com
bafig.com
bafoc.com
bahef.com
bahif.com
bahog.com
bapeg.com
ekroo.com
feedf.com
fitug.com
gofof.com
gozis.com
gxads.com
jevux.com
jkace.com
kitjp.com
mabaf.com
mcuzi.com
meduf.com
menpg.com
nirsi.com
nnsol.com
nosne.com
odowe.com
ohnot.com
oizis.com
ojmax.com
ollad.com
osaxe.com
oteye.com
rerni.com
rerse.com
rnsol.com
tetut.com
titne.com
torur.com
tosre.com
uqsys.com
vjsys.com
vogac.com
vqsys.com
w3tax.com
wagol.com
woond.com
xawtv.com
xeruf.com
ycoma.com
zlarc.com
zoexa.com
zypon.com
fejaa.com

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It is unfortunate that we do not have much public data from the brandable marketplaces. They undoubtedly sell a lot of the 5L 6L 7L.

Point of the voice sale is good. It very skews any set that it is part of.

I suspect that the ratio of wholesale / retail is particularly high in 4L, so that, along with voice sale, may explain the average price anomaly noted by @redemo above. Nevertheless, very interesting data - thank you.

Good discussion with lots of excellent points made.

Bob