question XYZ sales, really???

Lox said:

If you dig deeper you’ll see I’m one of those people who have been trying to support the ngtld business but I can’t support someone who’s going to $hit on me or ppl who don’t know what’s going on.

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The problem here is that this thread wasn't created to address the many issues with some of the New gTLD Registries,

but rather to publicly raise doubts about the extraordinary number of sales of a well known member of NP which could be because of her ingenuity and hard work than anything else.

IMO

oldtimer said:

The problem here is that this thread wasn't created to address the many issues with some of the New gTLD Registries,

but rather to publicly raise doubts about the extraordinary number of sales of a well known member of NP which could be because of her ingenuity and hard work than anything else.

IMO

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The OP question is/was related to the prev. notorious pump and dump and other “revolutionary” practices by registry. The lady was just a sub (spotted) , leading to the more expensive question - do we know if this particular registry is again busy cooking more sales via x persons.

You can be nice and ask the question indirectly or straightforward as OP did, hitting the nerves and waiting for the dots to jump out of the box.

It seems some people don’t have any idea how manipulative (untrue) tactics are used and still to extract $ from the end users incl. dn investors. Even some of the dn bloggers content (this company is using ngtld) was used as a proof for go get .ext where in the reality the companies are using .io .com. Cctld. Due diligence

Regards

Lox said:

The OP question is/was related to the prev. notorious pump and dump and other “revolutionary” practices by registry. The lady was just a sub (spotted) , leading to the more expensive question - do we know if this particular registry is again busy cooking more sales via x persons.

You can be nice and ask the question indirectly or straightforward as OP did, hitting the nerves and waiting for the dots to jump out of the box.

It seems some people don’t have any idea how manipulative (untrue) tactics are used and still to extract $ from the end users incl. dn investors. Even some of the dn bloggers content (this company is using ngtld) was used as a proof for go get .ext where in the reality the companies are using .io .com. Cctld. Due diligence

Regards

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Please stop with your mumbo jumbo nonsense

It will be more prudent to start a new thread for addressing the many issues that we all know exist in the domain Industry.

Nevertheless I don't like the old policy of always finding a female to make an example of as a warning to everyone else.

IMO

Crysis said:

Please stop with your mumbo jumbo nonsense

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Of course I can do that. No problem at all.

Regards

oldtimer said:

It will be more prudent to start a new thread for addressing the many issues that we all know exist in the domain Industry.

Nevertheless I don't like the old policy of always finding a female to make an example of as a warning to everyone else.

IMO

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Nothing against dn gear success. I’m always positive to see things are going well for domain investors. Gender or lifestyle is irrelevant for me.

Lox said:

Of course I can do that. No problem at all.

Regards

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Do you really think you are saving fellow domainers? Being a member since 6 years in Namepros. I never read your post until this thread.
Your motive seems like whatever the extenson you say, we all should buy. We shouldn't sell other extensions. Even if we sell That would be a registry sale.

I started buying .xyz domains in NP since 2015.

Here is a screenshot of my payment which was bought in 2016 in here. So Let's concentrate on our work and drop this conspiracy. We only live once.

They seem to be very legit to me, even as a mainly dot com guy myself. Different names sell for different reasons to buyers. I'm sorry there are so many cynics. It takes a long time -- sometimes years to sell some names.

betthelot said:

Am I the only one that feels the numbers and values are looking suspicious. Given xyz history with using smokes and mirrors to market the name space I am a bit sceptical but can be convinced otherwise.
What is your gut feel? Last 2 weeks sales from same person Swetha DNGear
beacon.xyz $24,888
Genisis.xyz $21,399
Patron.xyz $9,888
Protocol.xyz $8,000
Split.xyz $7,888

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I gave some very specific examples (not sure what happened to them?) of how these domains sales could have been more "promotional" vs. for an actual business/website. I provided an example of a local investor from my area who is seriously looking to invest in my new brokerage business by purchasing, for a premium, domains like Beacon.online and Genisis.online for his car dealership Beacon Motors and his Storage facilities known as Genisis Storage. Note, I'm just using the domains Beacon.xyz and Genisis.xyz as examples of how someone could invest in Swetha's business for purely promotional purposes.

I see where Swetha owns 60,000 .xyz domains, and I've gotten hundreds of good ideas for my .online portfolio from her .xyz portfolio that's displayed at DAN. Regardless of the extension right of the dot, she has a lot of very good domain names left of the dot.

Personally it matters not what domainers think, what matters is what an "end user" thinks, and that's my focus

what @DNGear should really do is not tell us anything and become a millionaire.

DNGear said:

Do you really think you are saving fellow domainers? Being a member since 6 years in Namepros. I never read your post until this thread.
Your motive seems like whatever the extenson you say, we all should buy. We shouldn't sell other extensions. Even if we sell That would be a registry sale.

I started buying .xyz domains in NP since 2015.

Here is a screenshot of my payment which was bought in 2016 in here. So Let's concentrate on our work and drop this conspiracy. We only live once.

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It is not about your sales or acquisition. I don’t question your business culture nor the way sales happen.

I know exactly how many xyz domains are developed (lots) or parked or for sale or null NS or MX only or used by BC or CC.

In what I’m interested is the rise in xyz zone. (and I guess OP spotted the same and since your sales are more prominent (thumbs up) and in mid-high figures, OP come to conclusion- maybe there’s something …)



You don’t need to post nor I ask for any proof. Keep going! Good fortune to you!

Regards

The Durfer said:

what @DNGear should really do is not tell us anything and become a millionaire.

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he/she/they is most likely already a millionaire or she wouldn't own 60,000 .xyz domains seen at DNGear.com.....at least she started out with a few million and still has a million

I believe @DNGear sales are legit because I saw many good xyz sales at SquadHelp. Here is a screenshot direct from SquadHelp reported sales panel:


You can actually see in the list above Genesis.xyz sold for 21399

.xyz is very usable, you can use it in any country and people wont go "wtf". its not .link or .company.

And since shes been very smart to own the goods keywords in that extension, in volumes, of course she's gonna get sales.

Here are her past sales
Genesis, split, protocol, chia, waterfront, decentral, beacon, patron, uncommon.

I dont see strange words or 2 words.

And she has volumes, trimmed volumes.

You are a very stupid domainer if you dont understand why this simple strategy is yielding sales.

Samer said:

Well, she’s known as “Queen of XYZ” for a reason. i am 100% .com, see xyz worthless, but i acknowledge she stands up to scrutiny.

I find it difficult to caste doubt of huge sale disclosures — we all want the same thing.

Hats off to @DNGear, a true PRO,
keep on doing YOU, whatever works for u.

i dont doubt your sales, and appreciate you, even if our philosophical ideals are at odds. This is your greatest doubt yet, Good luck!

From this 100% com portfolio holder, who believes in heathy cynicism & doubt, without making her feel, taking away, hard work took.

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Who’s is said queen?

I have some .xyz I’m fond of

Windoms said:

.xyz is very usable, you can use it in any country and people wont go "wtf". its not .link or .company.

And since shes been very smart to own the goods keywords in that extension, in volumes, of course she's gonna get sales.

Here are her past sales
Genesis, split, protocol, chia, waterfront, decentral, beacon, patron, uncommon.

I dont see strange words or 2 words.

And she has volumes, trimmed volumes.

You are a very stupid domainer if you dont understand why this simple strategy is yielding sales.

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What is it? Geek minded people? Who’s behind it? Overall the extension i mean? Please elaborate

Tryjake said:

What is it? Geek minded people? Who’s behind it? Overall the extension i mean? Please elaborate

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@jmcc knows.

man behind xyz admittedly, is a good marketer.

Lol penny promo was amazing, i should've got

Samer said:

@jmcc knows.

man behind xyz admittedly, is a good marketer.

Lol penny promo was amazing, i should've got

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They are now selling on the domain for sales page.

That end user wont venture into aftermarket .xyz for those 2 words or whatever you'll find. Only if you've got pristine stuff.

And seeing what @DNGear had been buying in 2016, rest assured she's got all the good names by now.

Samer said:

@jmcc knows.

man behind xyz admittedly, is a good marketer.

Lol penny promo was amazing, i should've got

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Negari is probably one of the best marketers of new gTLDs. Some domainers may consider that the heavily discounted registration spikes make it hard to sell .XYZ domain names but that's not the point. The aim of heavy discounting (and it is a very cynical business model) is to grow a TLD quickly rather than make domainers rich.

Most discounted registrations will not renew but, depending on the depth of the discount, between 3% and 10% can renew. It is influenced by the target market for the discounts. If the full renewal fee after the first year is considered cheap, people may just renew without worrying. But if someone has started to develop a website on a discounted registration, they will renew at full price if they think that their website (or e-mail address) is worth it.

Discounting can absolutely destroy resale values in a TLD but domainers really are not the complete market for the new gTLDs. Negari and .XYZ got a lot of flack over its discounting strategy. Some of the gTLD registries don't want too many domainers and have priced their reg fee at a multiple of .COM prices. This is because higher reg fee domain names tend to renew better than cheaper ones. They may remain small but the revenue from the renewal fees is steady. Also it might be better to think of .XYZ as a non .COM market as it has some very interesting geographical aspects.

Regards...jmcc

These are the usage tracking (No site, Active, Not Found, Holding, Affiliate Landers, PPC, Redirects and Sales) percentages for .XYZ based on known PPC/Holding/Sales/Affiliate lander hosters and websites. It isn't a full web usage survey but it illustrates the key elements for .XYZ for May 2021:

No site: 26.4384
Active: 52.7386
Not found: 0.0001
Holding: 8.0303
Affiliate: 0.6472
PPC Parked: 8.8218
Redirect: 0.6599
Sales: 2.6637

The developed in-TLD websites percentage, based on previous web usage surveys, would be between 12 and 15%.

Regards...jmcc

Thanks for all your information, @jmcc. We are so fortunate to have you on NamePros! Is it possible to add to the following interesting observation - i.e. in a general way where is .xyz more used?

jmcc said:

Also it might be better to think of .XYZ as a non .COM market as it has some very interesting geographical aspects.

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Thanks,
Bob

Bob Hawkes said:

Thanks for all your information, @jmcc. We are so fortunate to have you on NamePros! Is it possible to add to the following interesting observation - i.e. in a general way where is .xyz more used
Thanks,
Bob

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Still crunching the May 2021 data, Bob,
I'll add some more info when it finishes crunching. Some of the legacy gTLDs have begun to sweat the assets by raising renewal fees in an attempt to maintain registrations but the .XYZ market seems quite vibrant in that it has, to some extent, become a .COM alternative for people who may not be able to afford the equivalent .COM domain name and don't want to use the local ccTLD.

The .XYZ string is immediately recognisable as a generic whereas most of the other new gTLDs are semantic in that the right of the dot has a specific meaning (typically in English). It is also less likely to have people adding .com to the end of it to make a .com domain (example.xyz is unlikely to be confused with examplexyz.com).

Regards...jmcc

Lox said:

The OP question is/was related to the prev. notorious pump and dump and other “revolutionary” practices by registry. The lady was just a sub (spotted) , leading to the more expensive question - do we know if this particular registry is again busy cooking more sales via x persons.

You can be nice and ask the question indirectly or straightforward as OP did, hitting the nerves and waiting for the dots to jump out of the box.

It seems some people don’t have any idea how manipulative (untrue) tactics are used and still to extract $ from the end users incl. dn investors. Even some of the dn bloggers content (this company is using ngtld) was used as a proof for go get .ext where in the reality the companies are using .io .com. Cctld. Due diligence

Regards

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I don't doubt these sales.

But I have seen tactics some investors employ in startup investments, buy artificially inflating valuations and buying and selling among them. Then they will find a bigger fool, who is unaware of reality.

oldtimer said:

The problem here is that this thread wasn't created to address the many issues with some of the New gTLD Registries,

but rather to publicly raise doubts about the extraordinary number of sales of a well known member of NP which could be because of her ingenuity and hard work than anything else.

IMO

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oldtimer....some people consider "ingenuity" to be wrong and in some cases fraudulent especially if it has a negative impact on their wallet. I don't know what's really going on with .xyz sales as the OP queries, but i do believe it's pretty ingenious or it wouldn't be drawing this sort of attention.

Being a big supporter of .online vs .xyz, i actually love all the attention. I make it my business to get to know my competition, but for some reason they're afraid to get to know me

Samer said:

@jmcc knows.

man behind xyz admittedly, is a good marketer.

Lol penny promo was amazing, i should've got

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What is penny promo?