question XYZ sales, really???

betthelot · May 14, 2021

Am I the only one that feels the numbers and values are looking suspicious. Given xyz history with using smokes and mirrors to market the name space I am a bit sceptical but can be convinced otherwise.
What is your gut feel? Last 2 weeks sales from same person Swetha DNGear
beacon.xyz $24,888
Genisis.xyz $21,399
Patron.xyz $9,888
Protocol.xyz $8,000
Split.xyz $7,888

DNGear · May 17, 2021

Lox said:
Most people don't grasp that asking a specific doubts-related question unlocks learning and validation… all that goes into teaching. Ppl should take a bigger picture than just stick to the legit question asking for clarification .
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(fyi , OP is a Hard-working, experienced salesperson (& more than just domain investor) with a positive attitude, running a multimillion business…)

Regards

If the OP is really hardworking, experienced salesperson, They wouldn't mention someone else's name on the title. He is not even ready to take the challenge.
Even, NP mods didn't respond about removing my name in the title. This is a very unfair attitude. @Echo Mod Team

Coming to @alcy, He is always wanted to blame me and my sales. He doesn't have any other work rather than how .xyz is doing, ROI. blah blah? IF we dont have sales how come we calculate ROI.
If we buy 20K .onl or .vip or .icu, Can we sell them like this? Please dont show attitude. A fact is always a fact despite how many times we wanted to hide.

MapleDots · May 17, 2021

@DNGear - please keep reporting your sales, I for one am glad to read about them and truly wish you continued success.

The better you do the more buzz you create, I would not worry about your name in the title, it just means you are creating the buzz.

When it comes to domaining there is only one thing that matters and that is the zeros after the first dollar earned.

So just keep doing what you're doing and let your sales do the talking, keep reporting them and the critics will eventually fade away.

Lox · May 17, 2021

DNGear said:
If the OP is really hardworking, experienced salesperson, They wouldn't mention someone else's name on the title. He is not even ready to take the challenge.
Even, NP mods didn't respond about removing my name in the title. This is a very unfair attitude. @Echo Mod Team

The idea of challenge is something that we should be able to keep it in our (inner circle) business account as a extra fuel . Otherwise it’s a very waste of time and energy.
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Submit request / report via Contact NamePros Support . Tagging mods isn’t the fastest way to get response.

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btw. Instead of defending your business/es , just let us know if there’s anything we can do to help you or support your business.

Regards

DNGear · May 17, 2021

Lox said:
btw. Instead of defending your business/es , just let us know if there’s anything we can do to help you or support your business.

Thanks for your offer. Btw, I don't need to defend it. Its a fact.

blogspotter · May 17, 2021

Keep on doing what you are Doing @DNGear
You don't need to prove anything or defend anything.

You are an inspiration to many.

When people are jealous of you and start doubting you, it just means you are doing something right.
More power to you.

There is nothing but awe and respect for you amongst most of the domain investors.

oldtimer · May 17, 2021

Lox said:
Most people don't grasp that asking a specific doubts-related question unlocks learning and validation… all that goes into teaching. Ppl should take a bigger picture than just stick to the legit question asking for clarification .

This sounded like a totally illogical statement to me,

Although we might need to be suspicious of a lot of the things that happen in the domain Industry due to the dog eats dog nature of the domain business which has resulted in many questionable situations in the past,

But we can't concentrate on the negative all the time and we certainly shouldn't publicly cast doubt on someone's business model and reputation without there being some real and legitimate cause to support our assertions.

Otherwise every time that you get lucky and make a big sale on a sub par .com domain someone can open a thread and assert that the sale might have been part of some kind of a illegitimate skim.

IMO

Lox · May 17, 2021

oldtimer said:
This sounded like a totally illogical statement to me,

Although we might need to be suspicious of a lot of the things that happen in the domain Industry due to the dog eats dog nature of the domain business which has resulted in many questionable situations in the past,

But we can't concentrate on the negative all the time and we certainly shouldn't publicly cast doubt on someone's business model and reputation without there being some real and legitimate cause to support our assertions.

Otherwise every time that you get lucky and make a big sale on a sub par .com domain someone can open a thread and assert that the sale might have been part of some kind of a illegitimate skim.

IMO

I guess, OP did some of the DD and that’s why OP is asking for more info/ opinions. Whatever you know about it is not the same as I know something that is….. broader than just one dot extension (bigger picture). There was and there’s something that anyone wishing could discover about the x practices of specific registries/registrars trying to steal your, my, else money, selling empty bags and unfortunately, targeting poorer or unexperienced people.

That’s why OP is asking , if there’s something or not .. (OP: I am a bit sceptical but can be convinced otherwise)

Thanks for your opinions! Appreciate.

Regards

DomainBarracksRob · May 17, 2021

karmaco said:
Go away with your negativity. What you are experiencing is called jealously.

Also some of the sales happened at SquadHelp some at Afternic— are you accusing SH of faking sales?

Please stop attacking the woman domainer who obviously makes alot more than you do. Would you do the same for a man? How about worry about your own sales. Idiot threads like this are why we don’t see more reports.

FACTS! and Thank You!

Agreed!

DNGear · May 17, 2021

Here are some OP threads who is spreading hatred about .xyz. Now i understood.

https://www.namepros.com/threads/deal-or-no-deal.935092/
https://www.namepros.com/threads/new-gtlds-are-they-about-to-blow.937293/
https://www.namepros.com/threads/lying-xyz-making-a-mockery-of-dnj.941944/

OP, Did you ever contribute your sales or registrations to this forum?
Can you please reveal your real name in this forum?
First you please do that. Then question others sales.

oldtimer · May 17, 2021

Lox said:
I guess, OP did some of the DD and that’s why OP is asking for more info/ opinions. Whatever you know about it is not the same as I know something that is….. broader than just one dot extension (bigger picture). There was and there’s something that anyone wishing could discover about the x practices of specific registries/registrars trying to steal your, my, else money, selling empty bags and unfortunately, targeting poorer or unexperienced people.

That’s why OP is asking , if there’s something or not .. (OP: I am a bit sceptical but can be convinced otherwise)

Thanks for your opinions! Appreciate.

Regards

Your point about the Registrars and Registries doing whatever it takes to promote their products and services is valid,

But we have to keep in mind that some extensions might be promoted by creating some high profile purchases and sales without the person who sold the domain being aware that it might have been staged by the Registry.

Although the more experienced domainers can recognize any patterns that don't look quite right, but even if the Registries are buying certain domains themselves to create a buzz aground their extension you cannot accuse them of doing anything illegal, all you can do is to follow the patterns as they emerge and bring it to the attention of the community when you have enough proof,

But regardless of how things might look it's unfair to cast doubts on anyone's business model and reputation just based on our suspicions and without having concrete proof (even when it comes to Registry and Registrars).

IMO

Lox · May 17, 2021

DNGear said:
Here are some OP threads who is spreading hatred about .xyz. Now i understood.

https://www.namepros.com/threads/deal-or-no-deal.935092/
https://www.namepros.com/threads/new-gtlds-are-they-about-to-blow.937293/
https://www.namepros.com/threads/lying-xyz-making-a-mockery-of-dnj.941944/

OP, Did you ever contribute your sales or registrations to this forum?
Can you please reveal your real name in this forum?
First you please do that. Then question others sales.

I see, you didn’t pick the rest of it;
… The time when OP did a great job of promoting the domain industry and domain investment business (in particular) on BBC TV. For all of us, for free!

Regards

Lox · May 17, 2021

oldtimer said:
Your point about the Registrars and Registries doing whatever it takes to promote their products and services is valid,

But we have to keep in mind that some extensions might be promoted by creating some high profile purchases and sales without the person who sold the domain being aware that it might have been staged by the Registry.

Although the more experienced domainers can recognize any patterns that don't look quite right, but even if the Registries are buying certain domains themselves to create a buzz aground their extension you cannot accuse them of doing anything illegal, all you can do is to follow the patterns as they emerge and bring it to the attention of the community when you have enough proof,

But regardless of how things might look it's unfair to cast doubts on anyone's business model and reputation just based on our suspicions and without having concrete proof (even when it comes to Registry and Registrars).

IMO

All good! I’m not going to reveal anything about it.

I’m going back to the hibernation

DNGear · May 17, 2021

Lox said:
All good! I’m not going to reveal anything about it.

I’m going back to the hibernation

Whats there to reveal @Lox ?

Please reveal it in front of all NP members.

tldboss · May 17, 2021

Congrats on the sales @DNGear wishing you more success.

I think it's unfair that your name is in the title. Also, I don't understand why there is a debate (just opinions), if someone knows something then share. Otherwise, I think this should have been a generic discussion about XYZ sales, not targetting a specific member. It is easy to accuse other people without evidence/facts, imagine if it was your name & legit sales being questioned for no reason

alcy · May 18, 2021

DNGear said:
If the OP is really hardworking, experienced salesperson, They wouldn't mention someone else's name on the title. He is not even ready to take the challenge.
Even, NP mods didn't respond about removing my name in the title. This is a very unfair attitude. @Echo Mod Team

Coming to @alcy, He is always wanted to blame me and my sales. He doesn't have any other work rather than how .xyz is doing, ROI. blah blah? IF we dont have sales how come we calculate ROI.
If we buy 20K .onl or .vip or .icu, Can we sell them like this? Please dont show attitude. A fact is always a fact despite how many times we wanted to hide.

that's just dumb. I dont blame u. I dont know u. I blame xyz cause its a shite extension like most ngtlds. and nobody should use it.

if u cant debate with others then what are u doing on forums

Samer · May 18, 2021

DNGear said:
If the OP is really hardworking, experienced salesperson, They wouldn't mention someone else's name on the title. He is not even ready to take the challenge.
Even, NP mods didn't respond about removing my name in the title. This is a very unfair attitude. @Echo Mod Team

Coming to @alcy, He is always wanted to blame me and my sales. He doesn't have any other work rather than how .xyz is doing, ROI. blah blah? IF we dont have sales how come we calculate ROI.
If we buy 20K .onl or .vip or .icu, Can we sell them like this? Please dont show attitude. A fact is always a fact despite how many times we wanted to hide.

You got the name out of the title.
I also like the new title better.

This is the best possible outcome, imo.
And more rule changes might be underway! (Not allowed to use someone else’s name to to question their disclosed sales’ credibility.)

We see poll results. We see majority repliesx
Most all, we see you, working.
Opinion of you has not changed, if anything, should reaffirm your status “Queen of XYZ”
Thanks for maintaining class, the entire time.

Your reputation might precede that of xyz itself. And that’s a good thing. Keep leading the way. I’m most bias, but u been sharing since day 1.

equity78 · May 18, 2021

The interview I did with Swetha details a lot

Swetha from DNGear.com has been on quite a tear in 2020. The extension of choice? .XYZ!

12 of the top 15 reported .xyz sales in 2020 have been made by Swetha.

I took some time to ask a few questions on how she got started, and why .xyz?

1) When did you start domain investing?

Swetha) Thanks a lot for this opportunity to reach all the domain investors, Raymond.

I have started domaining since March 2015. I have registered around 600 junk domains in March and April 2015 in GoDaddy. Later on, I was started reading the namepros threads. I came to know what’s brandable domain, why would anyone buy our domain if it’s not good.

https://tldinvestors.com/2020/07/dngear-com-xyz.html

equity78 · May 18, 2021

If you can find him go ask offthehandle what questioning someone can do, because he questioned Kate Buckley. Some of her friends doxxed him on Twitter and he has not been heard from since. So yes SOMETIMES there are consequences to questioning people.

oldtimer · May 18, 2021

equity78 said:
So yes SOMETIMES there are consequences to questioning people.

There also has to be some consequences for members who have used inappropriate, demeaning, and insulting language here out of pure malice.

No one deserves to be treated like this based on some unsubstantiated assumptions of wrongdoing.

IMO

equity78 · May 18, 2021

oldtimer said:
There also has to be some consequences for members who have used inappropriate, demeaning, and insulting language here out of pure malice.

No one deserves to be treated like this based on some unsubstantiated assumptions of wrongdoing.

IMO

I agree but who are you referencing? To be fair some were very pissed that offthehandle was doxxed and felt Namepros should have banned those who participated. One person I know well told me after that he logged out of Namepros and has never logged back in. I asked are you ever coming back? He said, "Fuck 'em!!!" He also told me, "I am good at doxxing too, let the games begin." I don't know if he followed up on any of that.

As I have always said we are not all on the same team.

oldtimer · May 18, 2021

equity78 said:
I agree but who are you referencing? To be fair some were very pissed that offthehandle was doxxed and felt Namepros should have banned those who participated. One person I know well told me after that he logged out of Namepros and has never logged back in. I asked are you ever coming back? He said, "Fuck 'em!!!" He also told me, "I am good at doxxing too, let the games begin." I don't know if he followed up on any of that.

As I have always said we are not all on the same team.

I was referring to this thread right here not the old one that you had mentioned.

But in general regardless of what thread we are talking about people should learn how to express their opinions and concerns without demeaning other members.

I felt bad for DnGear being talked down to and disrespected at times by a few members here whom their hatred for the XYZ extension and perhaps the New gTLDs in general was their only motive for their harsh treatment of someone who should have otherwise been praised for her success.

IMO

nametrekker · May 18, 2021

bmugford said:
I have seen multiple people question Mike Mann's sales in the past as well.

He owns 350,000+ domains and reports the better sales.

Selling a small amount of domains for high prices on that type of scale is not that surprising IMO.

But, in fairness to people questioning them...There have been a lot of fake reported sales in the past meant to influence people. There have also been transactions that did not pass the smell test, things reported as sales that were more likes leases, or "sales" where you are basically putting money from one pocket into the other pocket.

I would be careful with the accusations unless you have something solid to back it up. Especially since this a smaller player, and it could damage their business.

Brad

nametrekker · May 18, 2021

agree. this industry can make us jaded. w/dead beats. long negotiations, agree on price, beach of contract, shill bids, frontrunning.
but not wise to question sales.
i've never owned an xyz domain nor do i plan to buy.
but why question sales. i see high prices on many extensions, mainly cctlds, than i could have anticipated each week.

oldtimer · May 18, 2021

Although there might be cause to be suspicious of certain activities and events in the domain Industry, but what causes some of the suspicions around domain sales is the fact that most of us expect quality to be the main driver behind the sales and although that might be true for some of the top single word category defining domains, but in reality in most other cases the main factor behind domain sales is for the end users having fallen in love with certain domains that they feel they must have and are willing to pay much more than what we consider the domains to be normally worth.

Hence the fact that we are always puzzled by the sales reports from different venues and wonder why certain domains sell while the better quality ones remain unsold.

And for this reason we should not allow ourselves to get carried away with our suspicions and start questioning every domain sale, although if certain patterns emerge that point to a domain sale not being what it really is then perhaps things should be discussed with a few of the more experienced members first to get their opinion before raising doubts about someone's business in public.

IMO

Lox · May 18, 2021

nametrekker said:
agree. this industry can make us jaded. w/dead beats. long negotiations, agree on price, beach of contract, shill bids, frontrunning.
but not wise to question sales.
i've never owned an xyz domain nor do i plan to buy.
but why question sales. i see high prices on many extensions, mainly cctlds, than i could have anticipated each week.

… because in the last 7 years we witnessed a huge problems with the people running the ngtld registries (not every, but mostly). I was not present on NPs when dot best registry did a dance and mislead or fooled many people. How many of you brought .best and get burned?

They entered NPs in March 2019 with 10k reg. domains and guess what’s happen…

dot Best rep. Last seen on December 2020 … leaving with 130k regs. appx. $500k+ in the pocket. Poorer and inexperienced paid the price and only a few NPs jumped in …trying to stop the madness. Everyone else is watching the show.

Now XYZ … nobody wants to remember the famous P&D and Premium Shill … using a code name “revolutionary” for $0,01 …
If you dig deeper you’ll see I’m one of those people who have been trying to support the ngtld business but I can’t support someone who’s going to $hit on me or ppl who don’t know what’s going on.

About doxxing … honestly, if ppl start to play with it , it will bring down a whole aftermarket and some of wk people behind registries/ registrars.
imo

Regards

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